Sup guys, I bet some of you already saw this, and I hope many of you have the correct information, but since this is on youtube for a ton of viewers,
I wanted to hear what you guys think about this, and mostly let's hear some solid FACTS.
Mike Chang (sixpackshortcuts guy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eIgweqKC8g&feature=plcp
Eric Kanevskiy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0iiWRQmRF8&feature=plcp
Now, while I know that Mike gives aloooot of misleading information and his ads are beyond rediculous,
Is he in ANY way correct?
What about the information concerning sugars-muscle-fat -burning and the difference between empty stomach&non-empty stomach.
And exactly how many calories would a 20 minute walk burn?
Let's see some solid posts, with valid scientific points in it that can help new guys.
Cheers guys.
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06-08-2012, 10:36 AM #1
Slow Cardio ; Mike Chang & Eric Kanevskiy
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06-08-2012, 11:22 AM #6
didnt not watch eric's vid...
think i have watched that sixpack vid...
my take on it... mike is going to sound as profesional as he can because he wants more viewers, more subscribers and more people to buy his stuff... but he is also a certified trainer who has gotten many people results, + has a good physique. and some of his stuff are good but he also says some stuff which just go against some of his other vids.. so i dont watch him too much.
on the other hand.. this eric guy says he has only started lifting for about 7 months? and tries to say he knows everything about the human body.., i dont agree with anything he says because the way he explains his theories make absolutely no sence.. especially his take on hypertrophy etc... and he sounds like an ignorant guy because he can not even admit it when he is wrong...
low intensity cardio focuses more on just burning fat, while higher intensity cardio burns both fat and muscle... HIIT is like the middle of that, HIIT targets the most fat lost...
and honestly, you can bulk/build/cut without cardio... it all comes down to diet in the end... but you can do what ever cardio it is that you prefer op. just figure out what works for you.. you dont need to watch youtube vids for that!
EDIT : yes i have watched mikes video.. and i do beleave that is correct, since when your at a fasted state you burn more fat... and low intensity will target fat burn at a fasted state
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06-08-2012, 11:27 AM #7
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although i really don'y like erikkanevskiy at all, although he is really small, and although he is a cocky know-it-all, what he says in his videos are correct and scientifically proven, as compared to mike's videos that have some truth, but a lot of broscience; WHERE IN THE HELL DID YOU GET YOUR INFO THAT HIIT CARDIO BURNS MUSCLE? quit trying to spread broscience and making other dumb people believe that; the type of cardio and the duration of cardio have no effect on muscle loss. your an idiot
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Acta Physiol Hung. 2008 Jun;95(2):219-27.Links
Characterization of the cortisol response to incremental exercise in physically active young men.
Viru M, Hackney AC, Janson T, Karelson K, Viru A.
Institute of Sport Pedagogy and Coaching Science, University of Tartu, Estonia.
This study examined the cortisol response to incremental exercise; specifically to see if there was an increase in blood cortisol levels at low intensity exercise (i.e., < 60% VO2 intensity threshold) and determine whether a linear relationship existed between the blood cortisol responses and exercise of increasing workloads (i.e., intensity). Healthy, physically active young men (n = 11) completed exercise tests involving progressive workload stages (3 min) to determine peak oxygen uptake responses (VO2). Blood specimens were collected at rest and at the end of each stage and analyzed for cortisol. Results showed cortisol was significantly increased from resting levels at the end of the first exercise stage (80 W; 41.9 +/- 5.4% peak VO2) and remained significantly elevated from rest until the exercise ended. Interestingly, however, the cortisol concentrations observed at 80 W through 200 W did not significantly differ from one another. Thereafter, during the final two stages of exercise the cortisol concentrations increased further (p < 0.01). The subjects exceeded their individual lactate thresholds over these last two stages of exercise. Regression modeling to characterize the cortisol response resulted in significant regression coefficients (r = 0.415 [linear] and r = 0.655 [3rd order polynominal], respectively; p < 0.05). Comparative testing (Hotelling test) between the two regression coefficents revealed the polynominal model (sigmoidal curve) was the significantly stronger of the two (p = 0.05). In conclusion, the present findings refute the concept that low intensity exercise will not provoke a significant change in blood cortisol levels and suggest the response to incremental exercise involving increasing exercise workloads (i.e., intensities) are not entirely linear in nature. Specifically, a sigmoid curve more highly accurately characterizes the cortisol response to such exercise.
im not saying your wrong, because you obviously know a **** ton more than me, but is the difference in cortisol production between the two that significant? some studies like this one show little/no difference in elevated levels based on intensity
edit: and if you carb loaded 1-2 hours pre workout, could this cancel the effect of your body transforming cortisol into glycogen by using carbs as your primary source of energy? the body will probably still convert some cortisol, but not merely enough for muscle loss unless you plan on doing an insane amoutn of cardio?Last edited by southparkbbb; 06-08-2012 at 11:55 AM.
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06-08-2012, 11:53 AM #23
I looked at HIIT and HIgh intensity cardio as 2 differents.. my perspective on high intensity was long duration running, like what marathon runners do... and high intensity interval training as something else since its not duration running, not saying your wrong eaither but just from what i see on the forums and internet thats what most people consider high intensity as...
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