Breaking: Giant Nuclear Cover Up in Indiana/Michigan/Ohio

[mustang]

Taken from Reddit. Logically it makes sense. No Big News Orgs have caught on...Read for yourself.
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Live records for multiple radiation monitoring stations near the border of Indiana and Michigan have shown radiation levels as high as 7,139 counts per minute (CPM). The level varied between 2,000 CPM and 7,000 CPM for several hours early this morning (EST).

Normal radiation levels are between 5 and 60 CPM, and any readings above 100 CPM should be considered unusual and trigger an alert, according to information listed on the RadNet website (at EPA.gov)

Digital Journal ( http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/326186 ) reported earlier today that near the Indiana & Michigan borders Geiger detectors from the EPA & Black Cat were showing insanely elevated radiation levels. They quickly changed their story fundamentally, but not before I went OCD on it (see also my username). I personally conversed with the NRC today as well as the Hazmat response Captain for the Indiana State Police.

Here is a quick pic, before it was redacted / "corrected". Notice it is NOT the EPA's RadNet open-air detector in Fort Wayne, but another privately run detector near South Bend, owned by Radiation Network:



They then "made a correction" and called it a false alarm, claiming that their "false alarm" was also the same cause for Black Cat... but what about the EPA's federal detectors, the ones that don't use the same information streams as RadiationNetwork? Read on:

EPA's "near-realtime" open-air geiger counter for Ft Wayne Indiana no longer shows live data but cuts off May 19th ( http://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-dat...twayne-bg.html ). This morning, it didn't (hence the basis for this comment), but by using the EPA.gov RADNET query tool, WE CAN STILL PULL THE DATA UP as in this screenshot <- For more cities and a breakdown of the wind spread, check here

Want more? The area of interest isn't very far away from this strange event that just happened the other day where no fault line is present.



More? The DOD owns about 130,000 acres of land in the area. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42346.pdf

Also, I remind you that it was the EPA's federal detectors and privately owned / Internet enthusiast detectors FROM TWO DIFFERENT PLACES (BlackCat & the Radiation Network) reporting the same incident.


EDIT 14 pwns EDIT 7: Redditor says: Central Ohio here. I work at a large public university (not hard to guess which) next to a small research reactor that's located near the back of campus. There's (normally) a large fleet of hazmat response trucks and trailers parked in the nearby lot. Most of them are NIMS early response vehicles funded by Homeland Security (says so right on them). Haven't seen them move once since I started working a few years ago. Tonight? All gone. edit: will try to get pictures tonight/tomorrow

EDIT 7 comes first: To those who say it was still a malfunction:

You miss a VERY elementary point: one detector was privately ran in South Bend. That one "malfunctioned". But then the data is corroborated by a federally ran detector in Ft Wayne, a good drive away. And then more data as time goes on from other detectors. Like here, where one can see the drifts over Little Rock, AR 12 hours later, which lines up with the wind maps. For those that don't seem to know, that's a long way away from Ft Wayne. And the "average" CPM level in Little Rock has been around 8 CPM for the past 12 months.

and to those that point to the pinhole coolant leak in Dayton:

that pinhole leak couldn't possibly account for the levels seen here, and it was in hot standby mode (hot & pressurized, but no fission) because it was being refueled. And the workers would have triggered alarms if they were contaminated.

EDIT 11 also jumps the line: On a tip, I called the Traverse City Fire Dept and asked them if they noticed anything unusual, muttered that I was with the "nuclear reddit board". They confirmed they had unusually high readings, and that they reported them to the NRC earlier today.

EDIT 1 It's spreading as you would expect

EDIT 2 More "human numbers":

The actual dose from other redditor / semi-pro opinion + myself is speculated to be... RE-EDIT: Guess you'll never know, because armchair-physicists want to argue too wildly for consensus.

EDIT 3: high levels of Radon in the area??

EDIT 4 I heard from a semi-verified source that minot afb in north dakota, one of the largest nuclear bases, is running a nuclear response and containment "training exercise" right now with their b-52s. take this with a grain of salt, I'm not vouching for it EDIT: this redditor verifies

EDIT 5: some redditors keep talking about seeing gov't helicopters: here and here and here <- UPDATE: this one now has video

EDIT 6: Someone posted it to AskScience, but a mod deleted it and removed comments

>>>> EDIT 8: > Twes [+1] 11 minutes ago I mean, it is kind of interesting to speculate about... I will at the very least continue to watch this thread/ news stories. I don't know if someone in the 2000 comments has posted this, but before the spike, radiation levels were around 1 to 2 times normal. After the spike they are staying at a constant 5 to 7 times normal. https://twitter.com/#!/LongmontRadMon

EDIT 9: - Removed for being incorrect -

EDIT 10 Battle Creek, MI helicopters & ac-130: & sauce: https://twitter.com/#!/BeRONSON

EDIT 12: reliable source! says: > Got an email from friend at NMR lab at Eli Lilly in downtown Indianapolis. Said alarms just went off with equipment powered down; Indy HLS fusion teams responding; says NRC R3 not responding tonight.

EDIT 13: this will be where pictures are collected. Got pics? Send to OP. New helicopters (Indianapolis) to get started with, and some Chinooks, 20:30 EST West Branch, MI:

EDIT 14 now up top ^

EDIT 15: first verifiable statement from a redditor / security guard at Lily in Indianapolis >> "There's nothing dangerous going on at Lilly. Nobody is being evacuated and nothings leaking or on fire but a ****ing TON of federales keep showing up. Don't know what the alarm was about but theres been a lot of radio traffic" Proof!

EDIT 16: Removed, was irrelevant

EDIT 17 AnnArbor.com tweeted on the 4th about the mysterious "earthquake" rumbling: https://twitter.com/AnnArborcom/stat...74582087569408 >> Shaking felt in our downtown ‪#AnnArbor‬ newsroom. Did anyone else feel the movement? ‪#earthquake‬

EDIT 18: 1:50AM EST: we're now doing it live (**** IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!): http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels= <remove> Way to kill it Reddit! This is why we can't have nice things - 2:18AM EST - 3:45AM EST

EDIT 19 Interesting Twitter account. Claims to be owner of the other Twitter account (in Edit #8)... Verified by the Internet at large: https://twitter.com/joey_stanford/st...67691115245568 https://twitter.com/#!/joey_stanford

EDIT 20 This was posted up by a Redditor in the comments, purportedly from Florida, based on wind map is possibly connected & is definitely elevated to a mildly disconcerting level:

EDIT 21 Joey Stanford has said video proof is coming! Keep an eye on his twitter page! he is a dev for Canonical, and in charge of the Longmont Rad Monitoring Station in Longmont, Colorado: https://twitter.com/#!/joey_stanford

EDIT 22 3:30 AM, OP doesn't sleep. Apparently neither does GabeN, with his first comment in two months (Hi Gabe! Hope you were up all night working on something that ends in "3")... still got my ear out for real news, stay tuned. editception : looks like I was trolled by a fake GabeN account.

EDIT 23, 9:30 AM. This forum for cops had this statement by someone with over 5,000 posts on that site: > We've been encountering some high readings at the labs here. < note: this was posted well before this was submitted to Reddit, at noon yesterday http://forums.officer.com/t178688/

EDIT 24: maxed out the length of a self post.

EDIT 24, 10:30 AM: Contacted by several media, with the domain name in the reply email listed being "proof" of their identity. Lining up a couple interviews. EDIT: missed the 96.5 interview offer because I was too busy... so many inbox messages 0.o

EDIT 25, 11AM EST: Joey Stanford, dev for Canonical (Ubuntu) & Launchpad + the guy who runs the Longmont Radiation Monitor in Longmont, CO has posted up proof of high radiation .... see also his twitter feed http://socialcam.com/v/mL9lFJl2?****...r&fsk=nNzrkI4u

EDIT 26: I never once said it was dangerous or that it was NOT dangerous. BUT, for those who want to take preventative measures / keep flooding my inbox: Potassium Iodide tablets will shield your thyroid gland from any radiation, and is pretty safe to take up to a 130mg dose.

EDIT 27: Media blackout / suppression? Points out another commenter: @ 11:15AM EST I verified this to be an accurate screenshot.

Update

http://naturalsociety.com/nuclear-ba...#ixzz1xDdJWB1e

"Amid a number of reports of massive and bizarre radiation readouts coming from experts, eyewitnesses, radiation facilities, and a key choice news outlet, it has now come out that one of the largest nuclear bases is currently running a ‘nuclear containment exercise’. The Minot Airforce Base exercise, running in North Dakota, reportedly involves the use of B-52 aircrafts. The news comes after a developing story arose over the potential cover-up of a nuclear situation stemming from near the border of Indiana and Michigan.

Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/nuclear-base-running-containment-exercise-radiation-spikes/#ixzz1xDdqnjVn"

[xMetalocalypse]

Taken from Reddit. Logically it makes sense. No News Orgs have caught on...Read for yourself.
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Live records for multiple radiation monitoring stations near the border of Indiana and Michigan have shown radiation levels as high as 7,139 counts per minute (CPM). The level varied between 2,000 CPM and 7,000 CPM for several hours early this morning (EST).

Normal radiation levels are between 5 and 60 CPM, and any readings above 100 CPM should be considered unusual and trigger an alert, according to information listed on the RadNet website (at EPA.gov)

Digital Journal reported earlier today that near the Indiana & Michigan borders Geiger detectors from the EPA & Black Cat were showing insanely elevated radiation levels. They quickly changed their story fundamentally, but not before I went OCD on it (see also my username). I personally conversed with the NRC today as well as the Hazmat response Captain for the Indiana State Police.

Here is a quick pic, before it was redacted / "corrected". Notice it is NOT the EPA's RadNet open-air detector in Fort Wayne, but another privately run detector near South Bend, owned by Radiation Network:

RadiationNetwork

They then "made a correction" and called it a false alarm, claiming that their "false alarm" was also the same cause for Black Cat... but what about the EPA's federal detectors, the ones that don't use the same information streams as RadiationNetwork? Read on:

EPA's "near-realtime" open-air geiger counter for Ft Wayne Indiana no longer shows live data but cuts off May 19th. This morning, it didn't (hence the basis for this comment), but by using the EPA.gov RADNET query tool, WE CAN STILL PULL THE DATA UP as in this screenshot <- For more cities and a breakdown of the wind spread, check here

Want more? The area of interest isn't very far away from this strange event that just happened the other day where no fault line is present.

More? The DOD owns about 130,000 acres of land in the area.

Also, I remind you that it was the EPA's federal detectors and privately owned / Internet enthusiast detectors FROM TWO DIFFERENT PLACES (BlackCat & the Radiation Network) reporting the same incident.

Tell me Reddit, am I paranoid?

EDIT 14 pwns EDIT 7: Redditor says: Central Ohio here. I work at a large public university (not hard to guess which) next to a small research reactor that's located near the back of campus. There's (normally) a large fleet of hazmat response trucks and trailers parked in the nearby lot. Most of them are NIMS early response vehicles funded by Homeland Security (says so right on them). Haven't seen them move once since I started working a few years ago. Tonight? All gone. edit: will try to get pictures tonight/tomorrow

EDIT 7 comes first: To those who say it was still a malfunction:

You miss a VERY elementary point: one detector was privately ran in South Bend. That one "malfunctioned". But then the data is corroborated by a federally ran detector in Ft Wayne, a good drive away. And then more data as time goes on from other detectors. Like here, where one can see the drifts over Little Rock, AR 12 hours later, which lines up with the wind maps. For those that don't seem to know, that's a long way away from Ft Wayne. And the "average" CPM level in Little Rock has been around 8 CPM for the past 12 months.

and to those that point to the pinhole coolant leak in Dayton:

that pinhole leak couldn't possibly account for the levels seen here, and it was in hot standby mode (hot & pressurized, but no fission) because it was being refueled. And the workers would have triggered alarms if they were contaminated.

EDIT 11 also jumps the line: On a tip, I called the Traverse City Fire Dept and asked them if they noticed anything unusual, muttered that I was with the "nuclear reddit board". They confirmed they had unusually high readings, and that they reported them to the NRC earlier today.

EDIT 1 It's spreading as you would expect

EDIT 2 More "human numbers":

The actual dose from other redditor / semi-pro opinion + myself is speculated to be... RE-EDIT: Guess you'll never know, because armchair-physicists want to argue too wildly for consensus.

EDIT 3: high levels of Radon in the area??

EDIT 4 I heard from a semi-verified source that minot afb in north dakota, one of the largest nuclear bases, is running a nuclear response and containment "training exercise" right now with their b-52s. take this with a grain of salt, I'm not vouching for it EDIT: this redditor verifies

EDIT 5: some redditors keep talking about seeing gov't helicopters: here and here and here <- UPDATE: this one now has video

EDIT 6: Someone posted it to AskScience, but a mod deleted it and removed comments

>>>> EDIT 8: > Twes [+1] 11 minutes ago I mean, it is kind of interesting to speculate about... I will at the very least continue to watch this thread/ news stories. I don't know if someone in the 2000 comments has posted this, but before the spike, radiation levels were around 1 to 2 times normal. After the spike they are staying at a constant 5 to 7 times normal. https://twitter.com/#!/LongmontRadMon

EDIT 9: - Removed for being incorrect -

EDIT 10 Battle Creek, MI helicopters & ac-130: https://p.twimg.com/Au1M2IjCMAABGNZ.jpg & sauce: https://twitter.com/#!/BeRONSON

EDIT 12: reliable source! says: > Got an email from friend at NMR lab at Eli Lilly in downtown Indianapolis. Said alarms just went off with equipment powered down; Indy HLS fusion teams responding; says NRC R3 not responding tonight.

EDIT 13: this will be where pictures are collected. Got pics? Send to OP. New helicopters (Indianapolis) to get started with, and some Chinooks, 20:30 EST West Branch, MI: http://imgur.com/pkmZZ

EDIT 14 now up top ^

EDIT 15: first verifiable statement from a redditor / security guard at Lily in Indianapolis >> "There's nothing dangerous going on at Lilly. Nobody is being evacuated and nothings leaking or on fire but a ****ing TON of federales keep showing up. Don't know what the alarm was about but theres been a lot of radio traffic" Proof!

EDIT 16: Removed, was irrelevant

EDIT 17 AnnArbor.com tweeted on the 4th about the mysterious "earthquake" rumbling: https://twitter.com/AnnArborcom/stat...74582087569408 >> Shaking felt in our downtown ‪#AnnArbor‬ newsroom. Did anyone else feel the movement? ‪#earthquake‬

EDIT 18: 1:50AM EST: we're now doing it live (**** IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!): http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels= <remove> Way to kill it Reddit! This is why we can't have nice things - 2:18AM EST - 3:45AM EST

EDIT 19 Interesting Twitter account. Claims to be owner of the other Twitter account (in Edit #8)... Verified by the Internet at large: https://twitter.com/joey_stanford/st...67691115245568 https://twitter.com/#!/joey_stanford

EDIT 20 This was posted up by a Redditor in the comments, purportedly from Florida, based on wind map is possibly connected & is definitely elevated to a mildly disconcerting level: http://i.imgur.com/77pPn.jpg

EDIT 21 Joey Stanford has said video proof is coming! Keep an eye on his twitter page! he is a dev for Canonical, and in charge of the Longmont Rad Monitoring Station in Longmont, Colorado: https://twitter.com/#!/joey_stanford

EDIT 22 3:30 AM, OP doesn't sleep. Apparently neither does GabeN, with his first comment in two months (Hi Gabe! Hope you were up all night working on something that ends in "3")... still got my ear out for real news, stay tuned. editception : looks like I was trolled by a fake GabeN account.

EDIT 23, 9:30 AM. This forum for cops had this statement by someone with over 5,000 posts on that site: > We've been encountering some high readings at the labs here. < note: this was posted well before this was submitted to Reddit, at noon yesterday

EDIT 24: maxed out the length of a self post.

EDIT 24, 10:30 AM: Contacted by several media, with the domain name in the reply email listed being "proof" of their identity. Lining up a couple interviews. EDIT: missed the 96.5 interview offer because I was too busy... so many inbox messages 0.o

EDIT 25, 11AM EST: Joey Stanford, dev for Canonical (Ubuntu) & Launchpad + the guy who runs the Longmont Radiation Monitor in Longmont, CO has posted up proof of high radiation .... see also his twitter feed

EDIT 26: I never once said it was dangerous or that it was NOT dangerous. BUT, for those who want to take preventative measures / keep flooding my inbox: Potassium Iodide tablets will shield your thyroid gland from any radiation, and is pretty safe to take up to a 130mg dose.

EDIT 27: Media blackout / suppression? Points out another commenter: http://i.imgur.com/Dstqz.png @ 11:15AM EST I verified this to be an accurate screenshot.

Kinda skeptical...

[Coolhandsluke]

Interesting... glad its effecting Ohio if this is real. My ex wife lives there would be awesome if she died. Not so much for anyone else though.

[Natstokes14]

there was a big thread on this last night that the mods deleted. Lots of miscers reporting helicopter/army activity ITT and the OP apparently called a fire department in the area and they confirmed high levels of radiation

[bov188]

There was a 10 page thread last night and then it got deleted

Probably by the government... Misc is srs business

[evansanity]

tl;dr, but isn't david bessy and some other nuclear power plant near there?

[eleesr]

hmm...

[Love-Feet]

Cover up? or just dont want to make it public when it isnt a real problem yet?

From reading that it sounds like they are doing everything they can so far, dont underestimate how stupid the majority of the population are, half the cities would evacuate after fox news got hold of that

[sizeNstrength]

Redidt + MISC = extremely sceptical.

[Antonio519]

I duno bro, that area on the map is pretty highly populated...a long with some top universities in the area..doubt the govt would do anything there

Purdue Uni and Notre Dame...also with Chicago being so close (metro area of around 9+ mil)

I didn't even read op, just the title and map

[flposjg]

i ****ing live in ohio **** is ****ed up. Since yesterday my skin (back) broke out in these weird ass blisters that arent like acne. Ive never had anything like it... *concerned

[grapebrah]

i ****ing live in ohio **** is ****ed up. Since yesterday my skin (back) broke out in these weird ass blisters that arent like acne. Ive never had anything like it... *concerned

pics?

[evansanity]

What are the chances that I will gain super powers?

[Coolhandsluke]

i ****ing live in ohio **** is ****ed up. Since yesterday my skin (back) broke out in these weird ass blisters that arent like acne. Ive never had anything like it... *concerned

Post up the pics man, misc has several experts on radiation exposure.

[Niko49ers]

Live in Midwest/Northwest Ohio.

Oh fuuuuuuu

We have a tank plant and a giant assess refinery. Was #5 or something on city to most likely be attacked/bombed.

[strunz]

lol @ actually being worried about this

[dyd1]

There was a 10 page thread last night and then it got deleted

Probably by the government... Misc is srs business

this.. i was all up in that thread. i'm getting this article blown up a bit on twitter from some smaller news groups

[magog704]

well, i guess thats that.

[Procta]

live nuclear bomb was dropped of the coast of south GA and has yet to be found

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Ty...-air_collision


dun dun dunnnnn

[Retoaded]

news articles about this already

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-nuclear-plant

[skarms]

There was a thread about this on misc with like 16 pages but it got deleted.. more media suppresion or what?

[RockyIV]

Interesting... glad its effecting Ohio if this is real. My ex wife lives there would be awesome if she died. Not so much for anyone else though.

I LOL'd at this one repped for being a bada$$

[XeNoN89]

[Ben844]

news articles about this already

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-nuclear-plant

lol at first comment, "By the way, Ted Kennedy killed more people with his car than have died as a result of nuclear power accidents."

[SirMazing]

Interesting... glad its effecting Ohio if this is real. My ex wife lives there would be awesome if she died. Not so much for anyone else though.

[jjcooney]

we are getting crop dusted from japans tsunami last year. Guy on reddit needs a life

[SUB6896]

I live in south bend and drive into Michigan everyday for work, can't say I've seen or heard anything out of the ordinary. The local news covered this and pretty much disregarded it as soon as it came about.

[nodnarb481]

snap. zombie time

[basement iron]

Story time...

I knew an ex pyrotechnician whom detonated a 12 inch shell on the ground around 5 miles outside of a town. The flash was seen in another town ten miles away...yes ten fu*cking miles. For size reference the largest shells you see at town shows today are mostly 6-8 in in diameter, 12 in shells I don't think are even made anymore. I believe it weighed something like 50-70 pounds.

Obviously the radiation is unusual in the story, but there are people out there who occasionally get their hands on some stuff that can shake houses for miles.

There is nothing unusual about that part of the story.

[SemperMachina]

Found this from last year. Not sure if it's heavily related but interesting nonetheless: http://www.wthr.com/story/14257787/a...-nuclear-power