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06-05-2012, 11:39 PM #61
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06-06-2012, 12:06 AM #72
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06-06-2012, 12:07 AM #73
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06-06-2012, 12:12 AM #74
You have nothing else to come at me with...Calling BS on your age.
-No He wasn't
-No it is not
- The Truth, what you believe is a fairy tale.
You guys only see what your T.V shows you, you are brainwashed and think other than American lives are worthless.
The bully has masked itself as the victim to you.It is impossible to lay hands on that which is not predestined for us, and that which is predestined for us will reach us wherever we are.
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06-06-2012, 12:13 AM #75
Proving my point over and over again.
Provide empirical evidence of Allah -- do not use a "book."
You can't.
Explain Origin of the Universe -- God -- Explain Origin of God -- "he always was" -- by this logic --- Explain Origin of the Universe -- It always was -- Same logic just minus God.
Even if Aisha was 9-16 Aisha isn't an 18 year old by modern society standards.
At best your prophet is a hebephile at worst a ****phile. Claiming otherwise is willful ignorance -- but you suffer from that already.
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06-06-2012, 12:15 AM #76
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06-06-2012, 12:32 AM #81
1) Well you first need to look at that book that is 1400 years old and check the things within...scientific facts, historical accuracy, embryology, physics etc...and see if such things were possible to be known to man 1400 years ago. The prophecies of the Prophet SAW.
to start small, how can creation not have a creator? We just appeared coincidentally, and everything in the universe placed so perfectly...to say there is no creator from such a perfect system is like you throwing a glass and the shards to perfectly form its own system.
2) The answer relies in the question... "modern standards" , under a 100 years a go it wasn't 18 it was 12-14...what are you basing your morality on? T.V? What so and so said? you accept everything deny nothing? Nothing but corruption is the future of such standards.It is impossible to lay hands on that which is not predestined for us, and that which is predestined for us will reach us wherever we are.
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06-06-2012, 12:36 AM #82
Nothing in the universe is perfect, it's like all chaos, us even being alive is extremely lucky and there was a very small chance of us even evolving to this point as far as I know. If a creation must have a creator then who is the creator of god, makes no sense, we only as humans know that physical things must have a creator, but the same rules may not apply to the entire universe as a whole, or if they do it certainly isn't answered in a man made fairy tale.
Huge facepalm really at you thinking the universe is perfect and everything is placed perfectly. If allah made the universe then damn he really sucks at his job.
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06-06-2012, 12:36 AM #83
^Kurd are u saying that man deserved to be killed in the most brutal way possible?
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06-06-2012, 12:36 AM #84
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06-06-2012, 12:37 AM #85
To start how can a creator not have a creator? Circular logic. You just don't get it.
Biological life isn't an accident or a coincidence. The universe isn't a perfect oyster for us it is exceptionally dangerous.
Even by modern standards -- it doesn't change the FACT ****phillia is attraction to a particular age range as is hebephillia.
The funny thing about the justification is that the child is mature meaning can bare children or appear womanly.
I have a list for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._birth_mothers
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06-06-2012, 12:38 AM #86
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06-06-2012, 12:39 AM #87
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06-06-2012, 12:41 AM #88
All Muslims do this. It is their religion.
I understand that people had kids at a much younger age not even 100 years ago. Infact, some cultures still do it -- I don't really have a problem with that personally. Once upon a time we died at age 20 and younger on the average so giving birth at a young age was part of existing.
Still, once a society "modernizes" it realizes that just because you CAN give birth does not mean you're ready to give birth, physically or mentally.
With these modernization we also realize that financially or "society" does not see it reasonable to have children so young and it is unhealthy in this regard as well. So, we change our practices and develop.
So, at that point we tell people, "Hey... stop it, that isn't okay." We list the reasons why as it develops disorders and problems in society.
The idea is to become a better society and progress not exist in the bronze age. That is the problem with religion -- it refuses to change.Last edited by tk217; 06-06-2012 at 12:46 AM.
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06-06-2012, 01:15 AM #89
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06-06-2012, 03:08 AM #90
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Interesting. Now, say, if an Israeli had done this, the front page of this forum would literally be 80% threads on this, filled with (typically muslim) outrage about those "barbaric jews".
Where's the outrage?
Why... there doesn't appear to be any from the muslims! Indeed, of the only 2 muslim posters who have posted, one defends it (actually seems to applaud it, to be frank), and the other mumbles some weak excuses about hadith, and implies the perpetrators were just sort of misguided, but he could be wrong about that.
An amazing disparity.My personal pronouns are: Don't talk to me/Fck off
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