Why IIFYM is stupid

[xxAnonymous30]

there are tons of studies which show that proper clean fats increase testosterone. and u kids think u can eat a big mac and large fries from mcdonalds everyday as long as it fits ur macros is gonna be the same as olive oil fats or almond fats...



iifym is bs. only works for people with good genetics such as black people. i know tons of black people who are shredded and huge and they dont even count there macros and eat pure junk.

its genetics kids. and no im not racist, so dont even try to throw the race card at me. in fact, im envious... i am mirin there genetics...


if ur going to follow if it fits ur macros... 90% of ur food should be nutrious.


have some ketchup added to ur nutrious eggs into ur macros..

or have some fruit punch sugar drink blended in with oats to blur the taste and drink it.

the bulk of ur diet should be nutrious


i can hit my macros perfectly eating fastfood, whey protein powder, and serious mass weight gainer shake and then a multi for my micros(LOLS)

but guess what. i wont see the same results as if i were eating mostly clean EVEN IF MY DAMN MACROS WERE THE SAME.

SO FK OFF U SKINNY FAT OR BLESSED GENETICS PEOPLE


EAT CLEAN. SEE RESULTS.


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OR FOLLOW IF IT FITS UR MACROS WITH MOSTLY CLEAN FOOD AND ONLY A SMALL AMMOUNT LIKE 300 CALORIES WORTH OF UR DIET BE JUNK....


BUT TO SAY "Oh technically u can eat w/e u want as long as macros are met" is complete bs!!!









one cannot simply use fastfood as a main source of fat... which i see alot of kids preaching

"I EAT BIG MAC AND LARGE FREIS DAILY ON MY CUT AND I LOSE WEIGHT"

i lol @ u if it fits ur macros *******s.

and not a shred of scientific evidence was seen in this post.

[xxAnonymous30]

lol

if you think the pros get to 250lbs + eating dried chicken and broccoli all day

you are stupid.

they eat what they want.

anything from

take out Chinese food too pizza.

you get big with lots of calories

not dry chicken and rice lol


today ive had

double whopper and fries+cinnamon bun + dr pepper

chocolate chip muffins 3 muffins.
2 small tostios pizzas
1 small side of pudding

2.5 cups of whole milk.


carbs are carbs

rather you eat your gay brown rice or i eat my good french fries

it all turns into sugar used for energy.

one will just simply keep you more full longer.

Cosign this diet.

[xxAnonymous30]

2lbs of chicken tenderloin = 200g protein 800 cals, bag of broccoli = 70-130 cals, 4 medium sweet potatoes = 430 cal. Thats 1400 cals for all your daily protein needs and a ton of micros, you can cook your chicken in olive oil and take fish oils and still be under 1800 cals. What the hell do you expect someone to eat for their other 1200+ cals on a bulk when they've already hit their macros for protein and micros?

even if you were 300 pounds 200 gs of protein would still be excessive.

[HelpfulBrah]

Because I compose my diet strictly on Junk low quality food. NO I May or may not have some junk here and there but majority of food is vitamin rich and quality food only because it makes me feel better and keeps me full longer. Some people do it wrong

[PaynESTER]

Cosign this diet.

no telling what else ill have today


probably some ice cream later..
more milk

and always 2 scoops of protein just to get a little more protein.

just eat when you are hungry and eat a lot of whatever you want.

pizza, muffins - great for carbs

eat a ton of sushi.

tuna helper.

hamburgers

hotdogs

just eat man

everyone posting

i eat dry chicken and rice

dont even weigh 180lbs

[Sonic06]

IIFYM prescribes particular amounts of calories, protein, fat, and carbs

The point is not that you can fill those things with crap...the point is that you can periodically fit some crap into it with no problems and you're going to enjoy your life more and be more likely to stick with the diet.

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IIFYM supporter.

[PaynESTER]

Because I compose my diet strictly on Junk low quality food. NO I May or may not have some junk here and there but majority of food is vitamin rich and quality food only because it makes me feel better and keeps me full longer. Some people do it wrong

micros lol

eat enough mcdonalds hamburgers you will have micros

take a vitamin bud

[StarfaceChris]

its a diet for lazy fukks like me. why you hating op? *******

[PaynESTER]

you are never gonna gain mass eating

sweet potatoes
rice
chicken

no one does that.

do you really think jay cutler and them walk around with measuring scoops ?

when you first started training did you have all these goals?>

protein
fat
carb totals?

no you just ate and gained weight, the more you gained the more you ate.

[RightKindaGuy]

paynESTER: +1 for having high IQ

Jelet: -1 for having low IQ

[HelpfulBrah]

micros lol

eat enough mcdonalds hamburgers you will have micros

take a vitamin bud

each one is around 300 cals
I could get much more food for that amount of burgers.
But on bulk sure why not.

[emille]

I have macro total I hit everyday. I eat 90% 'clean' food. (chicken, eggs, tuna, whey, oats, milk, and other whole grain foods)

The other 10% i will have whatever I want that fits my macros.

Since I have started doing the above plan I have lost 5-6% body fat. For the first time i have visible abs, and still get to enjoy a little food every day. IIFYM works for me and I will continue to do it. Have fun starving yourself of foods you enjoy for no reason.

[JMB987]

yo you dumb ****ing ape. Iifym has nothing to do with eating ****ty food. I eat clean diet 99% of the time but lets say i wanted to eat a ****ing poptart..i would just fit that into my macros you dumb mother ****er. How hard is it to ****ing understand a simple concept? If you use iifym and just eat ****ty foods all day you are a ****ing idiot anyway and should not be in this hobbY.

LMAO. A new copypasta?

[aStRoRdInArY]

IIFYM is good to a certain point, just dont be a dumbass about it

[WastedLife]

yes, macros are the same "technically" but there is a big difference between good fats, and bad fats, complete proteins, and incomplete proteins, etc etc...

also what about micros?

quoting Pawel Maslag:

"I'm not a believer in "If It Fits Your Macronutrients." The way I see it, there's a difference between a 600 calorie unhealthy Big Mac and 600 calories of veggies, fruits, chicken breast, etc. A lot of the things you eat on a "IIFYM" tend to be wasted calories. If you believe skittles fit your macro intake, maybe they do, but are you actually getting any true benefits from it? Barely any vitamins (to be fair, there's some vitamin C) or true benefits such as protein and good fats. "

" I'm personally against IIFYM (If It Fits Your Macros, for anyone who's reading this). If eat a 550 calorie meal full of rich nutrients of vitamins, high protein, good fats, etc compared to a unhealthy meal that contains 550 calories but with low levels of vitamins (if any), same protein, saturated fat, etc. you'll FEEL the difference. You are what you eat, and eating unhealthy but with macros that fit your diet just doesn't cut it for me. "



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agree op.

agree 100%.

all about the quality of food you eat.

[WastedLife]

micros lol

eat enough mcdonalds hamburgers you will have micros

take a vitamin bud

stfu. vitamins arent efficient you mongrel

have fun with that cancer from mcdonalds tho.

[ahox]

1 meal has little to no effect on anything in the grand scheme of an entire diet full of whole foods dense in micronutrients. Nobody has ever stated that iifym means disregard micros and eat whatever you want all day. If all i eat all day is chicken breast, oatmeal, veggies, and healthy fats then i have a burger from mcdonalds its not the end of the world nor a detriment to my diet overall.

[PaynESTER]

stfu. vitamins arent efficient you mongrel

have fun with that cancer from mcdonalds tho.

ah cancer from mcdonalds

atleast when im buried ill be in a big ****in box.


you won't.

maybe if you ate with my advice you would be over 200 lbs .

lulz

[Sonic06]

you are never gonna gain mass eating

sweet potatoes
rice
chicken

no one does that.

Says who?

you just ate and gained weight, the more you gained the more you ate.

Way to contradict yourself buddy.

[Jelet]

2lbs of chicken tenderloin = 200g protein 800 cals, bag of broccoli = 70-130 cals, 4 medium sweet potatoes = 430 cal. Thats 1400 cals for all your daily protein needs and a ton of micros, you can cook your chicken in olive oil and take fish oils and still be under 1800 cals. What the hell do you expect someone to eat for their other 1200+ cals on a bulk when they've already hit their macros for protein and micros?

ur an idiot.

take notes




all in one meal..

700 calories of rice. 800 calories of steak. 200 calories of salad. and 400 calories of fried platoons.


learn how to cook. u should not be relying on garbage food unless u want to look like garbage.

olive oil for my salad... olive oil on rice so i dont sticky the pot when cooking.

and lil olive oil on my faty juicey fking steak.

all this in 1 meal.

not to mention protein shakes. and oats for breakfast

etc. u guys dont doont know how to cook. enjoy ur empty calories while i enjoy my real food. u need to learn to cook.

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mad?



now should i post my whole wheat pasta with chicken palmasian(the saturated fats increase ur test levels from the cheese. and chicken breast on my chicken.) lots of calories. big calorie daddy. u mad.


stop making excuses. if i wanted to. i can eat 3k calories per meal ...



PaynESTER IS A JUICE MONKEY. DONT LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS. ON CELLTECH UR BODY HANDLES FOOD SO MUCH MORE DIFFERENTLY. IF U ARE NATTY, U HAVE TO EAT CLEAN. SIMPLE AS THAT.


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...9692283&page=1


GOOGLE "DREAMER BULK"


AND ALSO GOOGLE

"PaynESTER" and look at what comes up... hes on celltech forums(same avi ) etc.

AND LOOK. EVEN ON CELLTECH FORUMS EVERYONE CALLS HIM A DUMBASS... HE DOESNT KNOW SHT. DONT LISTEN TO HIM... I SERIOUSLY HOPE NONE OF U THINK ITS OK TO EAT FASTFOOD DAILY... BECAUSE OF SHT HEADS LIKE HIM....
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