Why IIFYM is stupid

[LettuceBeReal]

IIFYM is merely for body composition, not health.

Obviously you wouldn't eat only "junk" because you'd feel like chit all day.


And regarding your question about skittles, yes you get "true' benefits from it. The carbs preserve mass and allow you to grow.

you're a fukkin dumbass

muscular hypertrophy....in fact bodybuilding in general DOES NOT begin and end with your macronutrient consumption

how stupid do u have to fukkin be to not know this??

[changetostay]

no, it does not claim that you fuking moron. there is a point where too much of anything becomes bad for you, but that does NOT mean that eating those same things in moderation is bad for you.

also, insulin sensitivity means jack sh*t for people who lift. decreased insulin while sleeping more than makes up for insulin spikes during the day.

lol your sucha dumb ass

everything is good in moderation right?

brb ******* in moderation

lolwut


micro nutrients are totally forgetten with IIFYM, so are good and bad fats

sure weight loss will occur

BUT AT WHAT COST!?!?!

lul

[NVious]

actually the theory itself is wrong.

IIFYM claims you can eat a diet of fast food cheeseburgers as long as they fit the macro profile, and the result will be the same as the same guy eating chicken rice veg (genetics and workout routine held absolutely constant). this IS the essence of IIFYM and is why the diet has gained popularity. It makes people take a second glance "Wait... u wot m8? u saying i can eat cheeseburgers all day?"

actually.. yes that is exactly what the diet is saying because it goes literally no deeper than "iffym".

THIS IS WRONG and the guy eating clean will end up looking better 2 months, 6 months, 1 year down the road because the other guy is lacking micros, not to mention the additives, preservatives and other schit put into fast food cheeseburgers. plus the carbs are all simple sugars, if his workouts aren't timed perfectly more fat storage, etc...

it may be an extreme, because no one really does that, but iifym is flawed at this level. and thats what makes it stupid. i don't care if you can eat one fukking poptart, thats part of normal dieting not some revolutionary new way to diet.

No it doesn't, if you want to ambiguously look at the name and take it literally that's your fault. In terms of body composition, it will make no difference. In terms of overall health, it's obviously better to eat the majority of calories from whole food that are micro nutrient dense. As I said, just because people are retarded is not the idea's fault, go read a sticky in the nutrition and it clearly states this.

[HELIX35]

Age 19


Yes. Let us listen to you.

[CLEAN_SET_OF_10]

no, it does not claim that you fuking moron. there is a point where too much of anything becomes bad for you, but that does NOT mean that eating those same things in moderation is bad for you.

also, insulin sensitivity means jack sh*t for people who lift. decreased insulin while sleeping more than makes up for insulin spikes during the day. why can't you fuking idiots read some god damned research so we can stop seeing these retarded threads on the misc?

okay, so i've just exposed a situiation in which the macros fit, yet if you followed the diet you'd probably fukking die if you put in a serious lifting session.. IIFYM is retarded and broken, it isn't a diet itself, its just restating cals in < cals out which technically all diets must adhere to, but is an oversimplification of dieting when you need to be training at a high level. FUKKK YOU

[NF0913]

lol your sucha dumb ass

everything is good in moderation right?

brb ******* in moderation

lolwut


micro nutrients are totally forgetten with IIFYM, so are good and bad fats

lol at comparing drugs and food. if you wanna go that route, you know alcohol is good for you in moderation, right?

do we have to post more articles/research for you dumb *******s to learn?

okay, so i've just exposed a situiation in which the macros fit, yet if you followed the diet you'd probably fukking die if you put in a serious lifting session.. IIFYM is retarded and broken, it isn't a diet itself, its just restating cals in < cals out which technically all diets must adhere to, but is an oversimplification of dieting when you need to be training at a high level. FUKKK YOU

if you think it's an 'oversimplification', you're a fuking dumbass. if you think it's broken, that's fine, but you can't try to say that cals in vs. cals out and macronutrient intake are prime determinants for body composition.

you're a fukkin dumbass

muscular hypertrophy....in fact bodybuilding in general DOES NOT begin and end with your macronutrient consumption

how stupid do u have to fukkin be to not know this??

yes, it actually does.

progressive overload + calorie surplus + enough protein = new muscle tissue growth

fat vs. muscle gains are determined by the size of your calorie surplus, and how quickly you make progressive overload. THAT'S LITERALLY ALL THERE IS TO IT. WHY THE FUK DO YOU THINK PRO BODYBUILDERS DON'T EAT 100% CLEAN WHILE DIETING? THEY REALIZE THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER, READ GH15'S STUFF ON HOW TO EAT. HE EVEN SAYS THAT THE ONLY REASON YOU EAT CLEAN WHILE DIETING IS FOR SATIETY PURPOSES, NOT FOR MUSCLE VS. FAT LOSS REASONS.

if you fuking morons are concerned about micronutrients, then eat like a human being with half a fuking brain and take a multi.

[SpartacusNYC]

the hodge *******s are also against IIFYM...

Yeah, and what is your point?

I never said I follow any of there advice. The Hodge Twins are morons.

[hzx]

IIFYM is merely for body composition, not health.

Obviously you wouldn't eat only "junk" because you'd feel like chit all day.


And regarding your question about skittles, yes you get "true' benefits from it. The carbs preserve mass and allow you to grow.

feeling like chit all day = energy levels down

energy levels down = lifts/workout effeciency goes down

workouts drop = body composion changes..

[nilekyle]

prime example of the modearn if it fit ur macros


june 2008 join date.

5 foot 9 and 162.

nilekyle, i can easily fit my macros eating nothing but fastfood meals and just whey protein as main source of protein. and my fats/carbs will be equal.

oh wait. i did to that in the past, and it gave me sloppy results and by sloppy i mean nothing but fat gauns.


.5lb muscle. 15lbs of fat. when i cut. i was back to where i started.

inafter op is mad

[ign_fan_4life]

His anecdotes mean absolutely nothing.

[changetostay]

Age 19


Yes. Let us listen to you.

knowledge speaks, wisdom listens.

[LettuceBeReal]

Only people who don't understand IIFYM are against it.

No one is saying go out and eat a bunch of crap food and bring up crap like "so you think eating 300 grams of sugar cubes is just as good as eating 300 grams of broccoli, hurrrr durrr"

If you don't want to follow it, then DON'T.

To quote the Hodge Twins, "do whatever the phuck you wanna do"

If you know to properly use it, then it will be a great asset to you. It's a great way to SIMPLIFY your life, but yet everyone turns it into the biggest extreme they can ("so you can just eat oreos and whey, and get results? I don't think so..."

its not only people who dont understand but people who are fukking fed up with fukkin new terms being made which onle seek to complicate things that people already fukkin knew. No bodybuilder eats 100% clean unless they are in the last few days of a contest. When has the concept of most of your diet being clean with occassional junk not been practised. What the phuck is the point in this stupid fad in the first place except as an excuse for idiots of the twitter generation mentale to latch onto the latest "trending" topic.

[theboulder]

That's precisely why I can't do IIFYM. Everything's so goddamn expensive.














































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[changetostay]

lol at comparing drugs and food. if you wanna go that route, you know alcohol is good for you in moderation, right?

do we have to post more articles/research for you dumb *******s to learn?

junk food isn't BAD for you in MODERATION

but it isn't GOOD in ANY sense

so your a moron for stating that lol

[twilighters]

IIFYM is merely for body composition, not health.

Obviously you wouldn't eat only "junk" because you'd feel like chit all day.


And regarding your question about skittles, yes you get "true' benefits from it. The carbs preserve mass and allow you to grow.

this. people dont get it. its for body composition

[GaiusBaltar]

IIFYM works, but it requires you to track 2 things, the composition of the food AND the quantity, which is something too complicated for most of the retards here. Eating clean food requires you to track only the quantity

[ABmarra]

brb eating 150 grams table sugar ,drinking 50 grams of butter and drinking 200 gram protein shake

iifym.

hahahahaha. this

[SpartacusNYC]

its not only people who dont understand but people who are fukking fed up with fukkin new terms being made which onle seek to complicate things that people already fukkin knew. No bodybuilder eats 100% clean unless they are in the last few days of a contest. When has the concept of most of your diet being clean with occassional junk not been practised. What the phuck is the point in this stupid fad in the first place except as an excuse for idiots of the twitter generation mentale to latch onto the latest "trending" topic.

I've seen so many posts on this site of people who won't go grab a burger with there friends because it isn't "clean", or some crap like that.

Many people develop eating disorders because of "eating clean"

[scarboro]

Next time I have the delicious 22grams of protein from a Mcdouble (390 calories) I'll let my body know that it's actually fast-food so it should immediately store it as fat in the worst way possible.

[LettuceBeReal]

in terms of body building and in general iifym works.

if your macros are 20/30/50 f/c/p, you are not going to be able to reach those from eating fast food or your not going to fit your fat macros. you are GENERALLY going to have to eat moderately clean to hit those.

if you worried about vitamins take a multi
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This modern jackass mentale is probably why after 4 years on a BB forum u barely have the physique of a competetive amateur long distance cyclist

It is WELL documented that oral vitamin replacement are an awful substitute to the real thing and in many cases EVEN MORE DETRIMENTAL TO YOUR HEALTH

your micronutrients should come from actually meats, fruits and veg

[belmont316]

Lucky charms has better micro's than brown rice. Srs.

[theboulder]

Age 19


Yes. Let us listen to you.

check your own sig, then check your post. then realize your a hypocrit

IIFYM works, but it requires you to track 2 things, the composition of the food AND the quantity, which is something too complicated for most of the retards here. Eating clean food requires you to track only the quantity

scoop, youre a moron

junk food isn't BAD for you in MODERATION

but it isn't GOOD in ANY sense

so your a moron for stating that lol

junk food isn't bad for you? lol, so fructose, glucose and all those other synthetic corn products that have been proven time and time again to have both negative short and long term effects isn't bad for me even if i have a little bit? youre also a moron

[bigpoppi18]

ima give yall a taste of my diet IIFYM

meal 1
2 pieces WW toast
1.5 serving fat free cottage cheese
1 serving surgar free jelly

230 cals 26p 2g f 27g c

meals 2

6 egg whites
3 serving deli turkey
1 serving salsa
1 serving cheese

400 cals 65g pro 11g fat 4g c

meal 3

10oz tuna
5 serving mixed veggies
2 pieces WW toast
4 oz chicken

625 cals 90ish g p 9g f 30g c

meal 4

32oz sugar free jello
2 scoops whey
4 servings cinnamon toast crunch
1 serving pb
1 pint of b&j fro-yo (cherry garcia)
8oz chicken

cals 2120 100ish g p 180ish g c 38g f


total 3400 280ish p 240ish carb 60g f

probably should taken proteein down some and added some fat but oh well close enough

[LettuceBeReal]

You mad I follow IFFYM and take a multi?

You mad most people who practice IFFYM eat 90% clean food and 10% dirty food to be able to reach the macros?

not really mad as evidently u look like chit

christ i wish i could post some pics

[Valenzuelatech]

I don't know who Pawel Maslag is but the fact that he uses the term "healthy" & "unhealthy" to describe food without considering the context, indicates that he probably doesn't truly understand nutrition.

[SpartacusNYC]

I don't know who Pawel Maslag is but the fact that he uses the term "healthy" & "unhealthy" to describe food without considering the context, indicates that he probably doesn't truly understand nutrition.

Project_BelAir

[NF0913]

junk food isn't BAD for you in MODERATION

but it isn't GOOD in ANY sense

so your a moron for stating that lol

how? you're a fuking tard, what if i eat all my micronutrients earlier in the day and am at 3,000 calories? what if i need 3,500 to build muscle? what if the extra 500 comes from ice cream? those are carbs, and the micros are irrelevant bc i've already eaten enough in my previous meals. I WILL BUILD MUSCLE BECAUSE I'M IN A CALORIE SURPLUS AND HAVE EATEN ENOUGH PROTEIN. in this sense, the ice cream is good for me.

stfu with your retarded logic

anyone afraid to eat dirty is a fuking pussy who doesn't know how to train. OMG A BURGER?!?! THERE'S BAD FATS IN THERE.... no there's not you fuking *******, eat it and enjoy your god damned gains. if you can't incorporate 'dirty' foods into your diet and make gains, it means you train like a 12 year old girl.

again, note how pro bodybuilders eat dirty while bulking and clean while cutting. they eat clean while cutting for satiety purposes, not body composition. read gh15's stuff on nutrition, he even says this.

[Adrenily]

feeling like chit all day = energy levels down

energy levels down = lifts/workout effeciency goes down

workouts drop = body composion changes..

Assuming everyone is affected that way.... I can eat junk and PR weekly while some people on here feel like chit after eating some chips....

[scarboro]

Project_BelAir

LOL, inb4 Vtech says "WHO?"

[LettuceBeReal]

I've seen so many posts on this site of people who won't go grab a burger with there friends because it isn't "clean", or some crap like that.

Many people develop eating disorders because of "eating clean"

Who goves a phuck about this site?

That has far more to do with people here being socially inept tards than it does with clean eating

even so, how does it any way change my point?

Bodybuilders have always spoken about clean eating with the occassional junk food thrown in on cheat days (ESPECIALLY during the offseason, some BBs encourage using junk food to bulk)