Cedric VS Phil, quick comparison

[Everylastone]

Phil has him on conditioning in abs, obliques, hammies and glutes. Also lower back striations. Cedric's calves are never going to be what Phil's are because of the difference in insertion points. If you really want to start nitpicking, Phil's forearms are worlds ahead. I see Phil running into serious trouble in the years that follow, provided that Cedric stays injury free and stays right on the money with his condition.

[Chococat]

Seems like Phil has deeper separation and a little more overall detail. Phil really has his conditioning down. He pretty much nails it every time. If Cedric can stay on it and remain injury free though, it won't take just maybe one or two more years before he blows Phil away. I don't see how Phil could possibly make a huge improvement in that time. Not to say he won't improve but I think given Phil's structure, he's pretty complete. More mass may actually begin to detract from Phil's lines. Phil is awesome, just I think he's hit his peak. Maybe I'm wrong.

[NVious]

Rather pointless just comparing pictures, Phil looks amazing on his own and Cedric looks amazing next to others. I think the only way to get a true comparison would be to actually see the two together, otherwise it's just speculation.

[ROMMYromboid]

Has a newcomer to the show ever deserved the O?

Yes, have you heard of Dorian Yates, 6 time Mr Olympia, 6 years world number 1, un defeated, came 2nd on his first attempt at the Olympia.

[BartPimpson]

un defeated

came 2nd on his first attempt at the Olympia.

Something here doesn't compute!

[Ace28]

I think Phil wins but it's closer than people think imo.

[Hitithard89]

something here doesn't compute!

lol!

[Newbtime]

phil wins, for now... but I think ced has more potential.

[DavisForman]

Yes, have you heard of Dorian Yates, 6 time Mr Olympia, 6 years world number 1, un defeated, came 2nd on his first attempt at the Olympia.

He came 2nd in 91, a show that he in now way deserved to win.

[King-B]

phil wins, for now... but I think ced has more potential.

I agree. Phil seems like he might be maxed out as far as mass (at least what would look good on his frame); Ced, on the other hand, seems to be just getting started.

Phil is better in this comparison, but with a little more delts, leg mass, and better conditioning, Ced might pass Phil up.

[carcayawarrior]

Everyone says that Phil is maxing out. He has come back every year better by leaps and bounds. In the pics I have seen of him this year, he looks like he is going to bring an even better package this year. He hasn't showed any signs of slowing, and I don't think he will. Cedric in 2014 will have to compete against Heath in 2014. I can't wait to see that ****. Phil is just getting started.

[SLiX]

Phil said he was 243 lbs & 247 lbs at the olympia if i remember right (in his becoming 13 video)

so he was 237 lbs at the 2010 arnold? he seems to be adding around 5 lbs a year


so probably low 250s come olympia time

[Nep2une]

Phil said he was 243 lbs & 247 lbs at the olympia if i remember right (in his becoming 13 video)

so he was 237 lbs at the 2010 arnold? he seems to be adding around 5 lbs a year


so probably low 250s come olympia time

Only God knows how awesome that's going to look also !!!! Regarding the pics Phil beats Ced soundly in every pose.....I see the potential though.

[MyronLatsBrah]

Phil said he was 243 lbs & 247 lbs at the olympia if i remember right (in his becoming 13 video)

so he was 237 lbs at the 2010 arnold? he seems to be adding around 5 lbs a year


so probably low 250s come olympia time

Yeah when i talked to Phil back in January he said his goal was to add 5lbs of muscle to his frame, making him 250lbs on stage.

This Olympia may even be more exciting than last year imo.

[Jeddore]

[flahexer]

Phil takes it in those pictures, clearly. He's thicker and in better shape.

[trailfb12]

whats with cedrics abdominal section?

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whats with cedrics abdominal section?

you mean on the fdb?
i think he is trying to do some sort of vacuum pose. After that he squeeze the abs witch i find much better.
Good thing he can at least try to do the vacuum.. most of pros of today dont even know what it is

[cbezz]

I'm actually surprised by how good Cedric looks in comparison to Phil, even though scaling isn't perfect.

+ I would think that the lighting at the Olympia would be more favourable than the NY Pro lighting (going off pics).

No doubt Phil Wins, but I think there's areas where Cedric has structural advantages and there's some poses that he could challenge him for.
But Phil is much too complete, I don't see anyone coming close to him this year.

[alan aragon]

Ced can hang w/Phil from the waist up - which is still saying a lot.

[SwolenONE]

Ced just has such a massive frame he doesnt look as muscular as denser guys like Phil.

[Nuki]

phil destroys from the back

I actually like Ced from the back much better, it's very difficult to judge w/o them standing next to each other under the same lighting. Phil wins easily but Ced's definitely hanging in there in some shots already. If we're talking about pure potential Ced has it big time, Phil is already pretty much maxed out. I'm afraid if Phil gets any bigger it will be his downfall.

[ZBlacktt]

I think Phil is just going to look to freaky to be beat honestly. For a Mr O to lose the title, he needs to be really beat. Which I don't think Ced is on that level yet. Wait until you see him standing with the Vets.

[zwyxel]

i vote for phil, very good shape.

[AgentSquish]

Phil is just way more conditioned and complete at the moment. Would love to see these guys on stage next to each other however, would be pretty interesting to see.

My vote is for Ced in the long run, his potential is just too hard to ignore.

[Salden]

If Cedric can improve over the next years , he might take the Sandow ...

[ComingHard]

Well glutes and conditioning he can work on, but Cedric has terrible abs structure - i dont think he can ever fix that

Philon the other hand is nearly flawless

[stealth_swimmer]

Phil easily takes it imo.

So much thicker and sooo much more conditioned, more detailed and also more separation.


Still see Ced top 6 though, but Phil/Kai just on another level right now.

This. Cedric def has potential though. I think if he fills out more and keeps his separation/conditioning (or even improves it) he could be a threat to win the O someday.

[mikieson]

whoever thinks Mcmillian compares to Phil is blind...i'll just leave it at that.

[MyronLatsBrah]

whoever thinks Mcmillian compares to Phil is blind...i'll just leave it at that.

This.

Phil is fukin Mr Olympia for godsakes, he's not gonna get beat by a newcomer just like that.

Phil is much bigger than Ced and way more conditioned.