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    Originally Posted by SethFitzgerald View Post
    but there is proof on LiveStrong, other Forums, New York Times,
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    Lol. I'm sure you read all of that in the 5 minutes it took you to reply. Nice bluff bro, everyone will fall for it and think you are so smart.


    800lb deadlift at a bodyweight of 180lbs. He deadlifts every single day, taking at most one day of rest per week, and does high volume training on top.

    Go tell him he won't make any progress like that bro, I'm sure he'll listen and start deadlifting once every 5 days. Maybe then he will make good gains.
    You know what I find awesome about that post is its absurdity. Someone makes amazing gains using steroids as well, but guess what they lose them the second they stop taking them or they die at a young age due to that usage.
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    I love how you left out the rest of the sentance showing you are wrong, and from someone working for this website.
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    Originally Posted by SethFitzgerald View Post
    You know what I find awesome about that post is its absurdity. Someone makes amazing gains using steroids as well, but guess what they lose them the second they stop taking them or they die at a young age due to that usage.
    Tom competes in a natural federation, and is tested randomly in and out of competition. You know you're at the end of your rope when you have to play the steroid card.
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    Tom competes in a natural federation, and is tested randomly in and out of competition. You know you're at the end of your rope when you have to play the steroid card.
    I used that as an example that being able to get gains or increase weight doesn't mean anything for being good on your body.
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    Originally Posted by SethFitzgerald View Post
    I used that as an example that being able to get gains or increase weight doesn't mean anything for being good on your body.
    You still haven't posted any scientific articles / evidence.. like I said, just add spaces to the links.
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    seth are u stupid, or just too ignorant to accept the fact that your a dumass
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    Originally Posted by SethFitzgerald View Post
    I used that as an example that being able to get gains or increase weight doesn't mean anything for being good on your body.
    Im just going to tell you this to save yourself from more embarrassment.. YOU LOOK LIKE THE BIGGEST DUMB ASS RIGHT NOW
    **Stick dick through the hole in my boxers to make it look bigger in sweatpants crew**
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    Originally Posted by SethFitzgerald View Post
    I used that as an example that being able to get gains or increase weight doesn't mean anything for being good on your body.
    My argument:
    Muscle adapt in response to stimulus
    It is possible to adapt to frequent stimuli via the repeated bout effect
    This is widely supported in the literature

    Your argument:
    You have to give muscles 2-3 days to recover
    If you don't you will die
    One guy did it once, but he is going to die srs
    This is widely supported on Yahoo Answers


    Seems legit.
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    My argument:
    Muscle adapt in response to stimulus
    It is possible to adapt to frequent stimuli via the repeated bout effect
    This is widely supported in the literature

    Your argument:
    You have to give muscles 2-3 days to recover
    If you don't you will die
    One guy did it once, but he is going to die srs
    This is widely supported on Yahoo Answers


    Seems legit.
    I don't have links to any any Yahoo Answers posts, I don't think you will die, and there is nothing about "one guy"

    I need 5 more posts then i will give all my links.
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    Originally Posted by SethFitzgerald View Post
    I don't have links to any any Yahoo Answers posts, I don't think you will die, and there is nothing about "one guy"

    I need 5 more posts then i will give all my links.
    hurry up *******
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    hurry up *******
    I will, like 2 more posts.
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    I will, like 2 more posts.
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    Your .gov posts are for stuff barely related to this topic.

    And, some of the info included in them actually goes against your view and supports me haha.
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    - Cliffs on the book.. not gonna read all those pages bro.

    - No sources / references.. it's just someone's opinion. Not scientific at all.

    - No where does it say muscles take 48 hours to recover.

    - Again, no sources or references... it's essentially just somebodies opinion.

    Post more, please.
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    Originally Posted by trexmoad123 View Post
    - Cliffs on the book.. not gonna read all those pages bro.

    - No sources / references.. it's just someone's opinion. Not scientific at all.

    - No where does it say muscles take 48 hours to recover.

    - Again, no sources or references... it's essentially just somebodies opinion.

    Post more, please.
    It says that is how long it takes in every single one. The scientific basis of his links weren't even related to this topic or were actually working against his point of view.
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    Originally Posted by SethFitzgerald View Post
    It says that is how long it takes in every single one. The scientific basis of his links weren't even related to this topic or were actually working against his point of view.
    No they weren't. You are just too stupid to understand what they are saying.
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    Here. I'll spell it out for you in a nice, dumbass proof way:

    "After performing an unaccustomed eccentric exercise and exhibiting severe soreness, the muscle rapidly adapts to reduce further damage from the same exercise. This is called the "repeated-bout effect".
    As a result of this effect, not only is the soreness reduced, but other indicators of muscle damage, such as swelling, reduced strength and reduced range of motion, are also more quickly recovered from. The effect is mostly, but not wholly, specific to the exercised muscle: experiments have shown that some of the protective effect is also conferred on other muscles.
    The magnitude of the effect is subject to many variations, depending for instance on the time between bouts, the number and length of eccentric contractions and the exercise mode. It also varies between people and between indicators of muscle damage.[10] Generally, though, the protective effect lasts for at least several weeks. It seems to gradually decrease as time between bouts increases, and is undetectable after about one year."
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    Here. I'll spell it out for you in a nice, dumbass proof way:

    "After performing an unaccustomed eccentric exercise and exhibiting severe soreness, the muscle rapidly adapts to reduce further damage from the same exercise. This is called the "repeated-bout effect".
    As a result of this effect, not only is the soreness reduced, but other indicators of muscle damage, such as swelling, reduced strength and reduced range of motion, are also more quickly recovered from. The effect is mostly, but not wholly, specific to the exercised muscle: experiments have shown that some of the protective effect is also conferred on other muscles.
    The magnitude of the effect is subject to many variations, depending for instance on the time between bouts, the number and length of eccentric contractions and the exercise mode. It also varies between people and between indicators of muscle damage.[10] Generally, though, the protective effect lasts for at least several weeks. It seems to gradually decrease as time between bouts increases, and is undetectable after about one year."
    You do realize that all that means is your muscles get better at recovery as time goes on. Everyone knows that, and your post gives no timeline to how long in between. And, all time lines given in other places say at least two days.
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    You do realize that all that means is your muscles get better at recovery as time goes on. Everyone knows that, and your post gives no timeline to how long in between.
    Are you really this stupid?
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    Everybody is different and it depends on the level of the athlete and how the program is designed.
    I only train 4x a week, hitting muscle groups twice a week. Even when I was doing 1 bodypart a day I still incorporated
    other exercises into chest day that weren't chest exercises. There are always exercises you can throw in
    to get extra work in. For example I would be doin chinups/pullups on chest days or something of that sort. You don't have
    to always do 3-4 exercises for a bodypart. Your ability to recover also plays a role so diet, sleep and daily activity can determine
    your volume. The more elite lifter the more you can fall victim to overtraining because you recruit more muscle fibers during
    exercise versus someone just starting to train using weights. They would be able to have more frequency.
    Don't pray for lighter burdens but for stronger bodies.
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