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    How many of you are doing my SS compared to the original?

    It's almost a year since I wrote that god forsaken post. 12 months on and it's quite surreal visiting forums all over the internent and seeing so many people doing my cute little butchery of the program. There was even a time when when every third thread was about it on the Rippetoe forum - which made him quite irrate. As far as I'm concerned, if I pissed him off, I did what I intended to do.

    I just want to put some statistics on it. Please take a second to vote

    Cheers broheims.

    And for those wondering where I've been, been at banned camp. I'm competing in 5 weeks - at the same meet with Martin - even though I'm totally unprepared and I tore my forearm yesterday squatting.

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    I didn't think your program traveled to other forums as well. Intredasting.
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    Originally Posted by Armoxus View Post
    I didn't think your program traveled to other forums as well. Intredasting.
    Lol, just google Babylover's SS.
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    Originally Posted by babylover View Post
    It's almost a year since I wrote that god forsaken post. 12 months on and it's quite surreal visiting forums all over the internent and seeing so many people doing my cute little butchery of the program. There was even a time when when every third thread was about it on the Rippetoe forum - which made him quite irrate. As far as I'm concerned, if I pissed him off, I did what I intended to do.

    I just want to put some statistics on it. Please take a second to vote

    Cheers broheims.

    And for those wondering where I've been, been at banned camp. I'm competing in 5 weeks - at the same meet with Martin - even though I'm totally unprepared and I tore my forearm yesterday squatting.

    Anywho, only thing worth noting so far

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    I'm on it! Thanks for the routine. Gained ****loads even in 2 months. Also welcome back to forums.

    Quick question if you dont mind. I'm doing exactly your routine with additions you suggested (biceps / triceps etc). I'm feeling too much on my trapz is that common with your routine or is it me possible doing something wrong? Cheers & GL with your competition.
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    Originally Posted by babylover View Post
    It's almost a year since I wrote that god forsaken post. 12 months on and it's quite surreal visiting forums all over the internent and seeing so many people doing my cute little butchery of the program. There was even a time when when every third thread was about it on the Rippetoe forum - which made him quite irrate. As far as I'm concerned, if I pissed him off, I did what I intended to do.

    I just want to put some statistics on it. Please take a second to vote

    Cheers broheims.

    And for those wondering where I've been, been at banned camp. I'm competing in 5 weeks - at the same meet with Martin - even though I'm totally unprepared and I tore my forearm yesterday squatting.

    Anywho, only thing worth noting so far

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    I did it for 2 months.

    Got bored tbh

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    Tears forearm squatting
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    I'm 16 days out from meet what should I do training wise just go light?
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    ^he did the deadlift before he tore his forearm.^

    Originally Posted by Shebbyy View Post
    I did it for 2 months.

    Got bored tbh

    In for 1rd page.
    so now youre doing 5/3/1 with a 105kgx8 squat, 60x10 bench, 80x6 dead and 40x7 OHP?

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    3rd option: Not doing SS at the moment
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    I can't go on SS since unable to deadlift, but if I would:

    notrly. biggest revelation you did on your thread was frequency at start holding you back, and mark rippetoe said that at the start you can add 10lb per workout np so that **** is solved, not like you're forced into 5lb/workout. another thing which you said was fronts on one workout instead of backs, but provided no actual reason to why.
    (no mark rippetoe nuthug, it's just an ss with frontsquat essentially and i see no reason why)

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    1st page.

    Yes I'm doing your modified SS version currently.
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    Originally Posted by Mullahz218 View Post
    I can't go on SS since unable to deadlift, but if I would:

    notrly. biggest revelation you did on your thread was frequency at start holding you back, and mark rippetoe said that at the start you can add 10lb per workout np so that **** is solved, not like you're forced into 5lb/workout. another thing which you said was fronts on one workout instead of backs, but provided no actual reason to why.
    (no mark rippetoe nuthug, it's just an ss with frontsquat essentially and i see no reason why)

    Enlighten me brah, maybe i'll come out of this thread smarter
    Good luck increasing your lifts by 10 pounds per session. That will last a few weeks if you're extremely lucky.

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    Originally Posted by trexmoad123 View Post
    Good luck increasing your lifts by 10 pounds per session. That will last a few weeks if you're extremely lucky.

    Baby lovers SS is probably the ideal version of SS for body-builders.
    why?
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    Originally Posted by Mullahz218 View Post
    why?
    Doesn't really neglect any muscles like SS does.
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    Originally Posted by Mullahz218 View Post
    why?
    I have a question guys. I am doing a 4 day split right now and my workout has me doing the same amount of weight for bench twice a week. Should I continue doing this same weight for a month. I noticed I could 1RM more after the month but still, do you suggest I increase weight each week or continue 5-8 reps of same weight. When I say same weight, I mean my last set is always like 122 or 135 etc...
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    Originally Posted by johnwall2 View Post
    I have a question guys. I am doing a 4 day split right now and my workout has me doing the same amount of weight for bench twice a week. Should I continue doing this same weight for a month. I noticed I could 1RM more after the month but still, do you suggest I increase weight each week or continue 5-8 reps of same weight. When I say same weight, I mean my last set is always like 122 or 135 etc...
    Not sure I understand the question fully, but you should increase the weight whenever you can get the desired amount of sets / reps with good form.
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    Originally Posted by trexmoad123 View Post
    Doesn't really neglect any muscles like SS does.
    rofl, copy pasta from BL's thread. icic.

    do you know that BL's treat for muscle neglection is basically making all the exercises rippetoe states that are optional mandatory, and saying that you can add some bicep curls(which I don't think takes a genius to realize you can do it on a normal SS program aswell?)

    PS: You're not supposed to add 10lb/workout until you hit your 4 plate deadlift, ofcourse you won't be able to pull it off. but that's the counter to what BL said in his original thread, that the first few weeks are too easy on SS.
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    Originally Posted by Mullahz218 View Post
    rofl, copy pasta from BL's thread. icic.

    do you know that BL's treat for muscle neglection is basically making all the exercises rippetoe states that are optional mandatory, and saying that you can add some bicep curls(which I don't think takes a genius to realize you can do it on a normal SS program aswell?)

    PS: You're not supposed to add 10lb/workout until you hit your 4 plate deadlift, ofcourse you won't be able to pull it off. but that's the counter to what BL said in his original thread, that the first few weeks are too easy on SS.
    - It's common sense, you can tell just by looking at the vanilla SS program that it neglects quite a bit of muscles.

    - Yes.

    - Not sure I understand what your point is.
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    Originally Posted by trexmoad123 View Post
    - It's common sense, you can tell just by looking at the vanilla SS program that it neglects quite a bit of muscles.

    - Yes.

    - Not sure I understand what your point is.
    point is, you still haven't told me in which way BL SS is superior to the regular one.
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    Originally Posted by Mullahz218 View Post
    point is, you still haven't told me in which way BL SS is superior to the regular one.
    Doesn't ignore muscles.

    More frequency.
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    Originally Posted by trexmoad123 View Post
    Doesn't ignore muscles.

    More frequency.
    Sigh, you're just repeating your past reasons which I already countered with logical points. i'm peacing out bro, gonna check this in a bit maybe BL or someone who actually knows something and doesn't parrot things they don't understand will give me an answer
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    Sigh, you're just repeating your past reasons which I already countered with logical points. i'm peacing out bro, gonna check this in a bit maybe BL or someone who actually knows something and doesn't parrot things they don't understand will give me an answer
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    I have been doing your SS for about 3 months now (after 3 months of original) and it's amazing compared to the original.
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    Can't wait for dem dere exams to be over so I can lift again. And to anyone wondering what the differences are

    1 - BL's version omits power cleans for rows. Personally, I feel this is a good thing in that you don't need power cleans. You can do them, and I do, but you don't need them. BB rows are good for back work. Power cleans, while being great for the traps, are more of an explosive movement intended for sports...I haven't read the P.C chapter in a while, but I'm pretty sure that Rip himself says that it's a lift included purely for power and strength in relation to sports...so in other words, not necessary

    2 - BL's version includes rear delt work. Rip's doesn't, and really there's nothing that strengthens the rear delts particularly well in Rip's SS. Cleans and chins are arguable for post-delt work, but (a) they don't provide much direct work for the rear delts as do isolation exercises and (b) if there's already an imbalance that's led to weak rear delts (amongst other things) then they're going to get neglected even more from chins and cleans, just because the body's a cheeky kunt and won't be efficient with them if they're already imbalanced

    3 - BL's version promotes more volume, which in my opinion is much better than simply adding more weight every session. The former trains you more frequently, thus getting you to do the lifts more often at lower weights than if you were to do Rip's SS and just add 5-10 kilos to the bar each time - let's be honest, the former is gonna be better in the longer term since it means you're squatting more often, giving you confidence under the bar and letting you get more and more familiar with the movement. I'll wager that a great many people, if they were to just slap more plates on the bar than the standard 2.5 increments Rip suggests, wouldn't just stall sooner and have to lower the increments, they'd probably be injured/struggle greatly even with the smaller increments, since they've had less time under the bar to adapt to the movements before doing them with a heavy weight. In other words, adding 2.5 kilos each day and doing 5 days for 4 weeks (50 kilos) will leave you more confident and more adapted to the weight each time than will adding 5 kilos to the bar each day, 3 days a week for 4 weeks (60 kilos) In other words, you can milk smaller increments for longer than you can larger increments, and will be be more adapted to the weight and thus confident with it with more frequency.
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