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    Sugar Free Creamer Bad For Fat Loss?

    I am currently in week 2 of Kris Gethans 12 week program and have been having a cup of coffee in the morning (caffeinated) with Stevia and some Sugar Free Coffee Mate creamer(French Vanilla).

    Im wondering if should be cutting out the creamer? I have a cup with breakfast and usually after I get home, after I eat dinner (usually lean meat with broccoli) following my work out at the gym about 2.5-3 hours before bed.

    Any cons to this? It's the only thing Im having a hard time cutting out of my fuarking diet.
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    Does it contain calories? Unless it puts you over your caloric goal then it will not have a negative impact.
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    Originally Posted by germaine07 View Post
    Does it contain calories? Unless it puts you over your caloric goal then it will not have a negative impact.
    Kris Gethin doesn't believe in caloric goals.

    Op my advice is to not obsess over such small things, if you enjoy creamer with your coffee then use it, in terms of your overall diet it's not going to make a difference. I urge you to read the following and learn to compose a diet for yourself, using the foods you enjoy.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981
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    I would look at fat content if calories aren't an issue. If you good go with it just don;t over do it.
    If you not feeling the burn your not pushing hard enough.

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    Originally Posted by Cheftepesh View Post
    I would look at fat content if calories aren't an issue. If you good go with it just don;t over do it.
    Why look at Fat content if calories are not an issue? Fat doesn't make you fat... consuming more calories than you burn makes you fat.

    To the OP: As long as you are getting your macro/micros at the end of the day and not going way over your calorie limit, drink it up!!!
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    Isn't coffee mate mostly trans fat? Either way I can't stand the chemical taste and love me some full fat dairy in my coffee.
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    Not to re-iterate what other people have said, but here's how it basically is.

    Sugar-free coffee mate still has fat. Fat has calories. Now if you have one serving and one coffee a day with it then it really should not be that big of a deal.

    However, if you have several cups of coffee a day with several servings then it MIGHT hamper your progress if it puts you over your daily caloric goal.

    OP, you do have a caloric/macro goal, right?
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    Originally Posted by Kadisha View Post
    Not to re-iterate what other people have said, but here's how it basically is.

    Sugar-free coffee mate still has fat. Fat has calories. Now if you have one serving and one coffee a day with it then it really should not be that big of a deal.

    However, if you have several cups of coffee a day with several servings then it MIGHT hamper your progress if it puts you over your daily caloric goal.

    OP, you do have a caloric/macro goal, right?
    Sorta
    I'm eating 1/2 cup of oats with 5 egg whites and a cup of coffee for breakfast with Animal Pak

    I'm eating every 2-3 hours and cutting the carbs out at about 3pm. I'm doing mostly chicken or turkey breast with 1 cup of brown rice and broccoli, and 1 meal with tilapia... After workout dinner is usually 6-8oz Round Steak or chicken with broccoli.
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    Originally Posted by Chris4937 View Post
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    I'm eating 1/2 cup of oats with 5 egg whites and a cup of coffee for breakfast with Animal Pak
    This part shouldn't be a problem.

    Originally Posted by Chris4937 View Post
    I'm eating every 2-3 hours and cutting the carbs out at about 3pm. I'm doing mostly chicken or turkey breast with 1 cup of brown rice and broccoli, and 1 meal with tilapia... After workout dinner is usually 6-8oz Round Steak or chicken with broccoli.
    However this part is terrible and completely unnecessary. Please read the stickies at the top of the nutrition section. You'll see that you don't have to eat bland food like that, and you'll also see that meal timing is completely irrelevant. You don't have to eat every 3 hours and carbs (and their timing) has nothing to do with body composition.
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    Originally Posted by Kadisha View Post
    This part shouldn't be a problem.



    However this part is terrible and completely unnecessary. Please read the stickies at the top of the nutrition section. You'll see that you don't have to eat bland food like that, and you'll also see that meal timing is completely irrelevant. You don't have to eat every 3 hours and carbs (and their timing) has nothing to do with body composition.
    Taste and blandness does not bother me, it's fuel. I have been on this path since January's and have knocked off almost 5% body fat. I'm replacing one meal with 1/2 cup of oats with 1 scoop of whey currently, and removing carbs at 3pm due to this being a 12 week 'cut'.
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    Originally Posted by Chris4937 View Post
    Taste and blandness does not bother me, it's fuel. I have been on this path since January's and have knocked off almost 5% body fat. I'm replacing one meal with 1/2 cup of oats with 1 scoop of whey currently, and removing carbs at 3pm due to this being a 12 week 'cut'.
    Suit yourself man. I'm just letting you know that you don't have to do it that way, and you'll be able to get the same results that's all.
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    Originally Posted by Kadisha View Post
    Suit yourself man. I'm just letting you know that you don't have to do it that way, and you'll be able to get the same results that's all.
    I was carb cycling from November to January but saw results I was not happy with. A macro breakdown would be ideal in order to critique but I'm pretty much eyeballing my portions to fist size until my scale shows up. I'm following the outlined diet in Kris's 12 week program pretty closely. As for carbs I'm mainly sticking with brown rice, what would you recommend as a change up?
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    I mean, you can do what you want, but you can achieve the SAME results by eating much tastier food.... and actually eating when you are hungry. And what carbs do you LIKE to eat? Brown rice isn't a magical carb or anything. You really need to figure out your daily macros/micros and find out what your TDEE is.. Not being a dick, but Kris's 12 week program isn't a magical diet that allows you to eat over your TDEE and not gain fat. I hear people at my gym all the time say that they eat only high protein food, so they can never get fat.. Or they don't eat condiments at all or drink soda so they will never get fat... Calories in vs. Calories out.. to bulk ideally you want to eat 250 over maintenance.

    EDIT: Also... carbs actually can change body comp a bit... the more carbs you eat, the more water you retain.. which = a puffy look for some.
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