Summer Cutters Crew: Hunger is Temporary, Glory is Eternal

[BabyOilBrah]

Some people just choose to not starve themselves during fasted hours and eat consistently throughout the day at a deficit. U mad?

Honestly I'm more starving when I eat small meals throughout the day rather than a few big ones.

[Otaman]

yeah 8.33 cals/8oz for freakin cold ass water... so even if you drank 2 gallons of ice cold water(kidneys can also only handle 3 gallons/day each without getting water sickness; also drinking excessive water can deplete electrolytes and cause the same thing) it would only be 54 cals which would equate to 1/70th of a lb of fat (NOT WORTH IT!!!)

128 oz = 1 gallon

2 gallons = 256 oz

8.33 calories per 8 oz (or roughly 1 calorie burned for 1 oz)

256 oz = 256 calories roughly (or 265.6 calories if you want to be precise)


where is 54 calories you got?

WOW failing even at your own calculations dude. Strong math, also strong do you even lift?

tempted to neg for spreading faulty math and your own retartedness

[kids.got.soul]

128 oz = 1 gallon

2 gallons = 256 oz

8.33 calories per 8 oz (or roughly 1 calorie burned for 1 oz)

256 oz = 256 calories roughly (or 265.6 calories if you want to be precise)


where is 54 calories you got?

WOW failing even at your own calculations dude. Strong math, also strong do you even lift?

tempted to neg for spreading faulty math and your own retartedness

i can see drinking cold water has worked very well for yourself

[ARhymingApe]

Brahs my jimmies are actually rustled right now.

I tried to do that poverty ass protein pancake recipe that was posted a few pages back. The one that is only egg whites + protein. Couldn't even take more than two bites out of it, ended up throwing it away. Texture was like styrofoam, no matter how much I chewed it wouldn't even disintegrate. Fukking pissed that I just wasted EIGHT FUKKING OUNCES of liquid eggwhites (basically half the carton) and two full scoops of protein on this poverty crap meal. And I also wasted all the Walden Farms syrup that I had poured on them. Fukking 84g of protein down the drain now I can't even hit my macros for the day. That's the first time a misc recipe fails me, feel like I got trolled super hard.

Cliffs:
- Protein pancakes came out like ass.
- Just eat real pancakes and hit your protein goals with other foods.

[Got2BGreat93]

what programs are u guys running? I did a full body in the beggining then did PHAT and thinking of a more traditional bodybuilding type split. What are you bros running now and hows it going?

[Otaman]

i can see drinking cold water has worked very well for yourself

where are those comments you made before, about negligible calories burning or smth like that? 66 calories is negligible for you at 2 L?

and the hydration benefits?

strong I try to come in this thread to give some sound advice on cutting, and couple of you jump me with your broscience math

[iabs]

how's everyone doing with their cut?

[ampUP11]

how's everyone doing with their cut?

Making up for high sodium/cals from last nights dinner with cardio and yardwork. Hoping I even back out to my weight from last week tomorrow and just try to catch up on my schedule. 1lb/week will put me at the end of my cut mid-July then recomp till August. I think I'm going to Electric Zoo end of August which means I need to look shredded for that as well. Anybody else goin to E-Zoo?

[mh22]

How important is it to take fish oil with ec stack? I'm about to take my 1st dose and don't have any fish oil currently. Taking 2 doses the next 2 days and then 3 doses from then on. Already took ec before twice

[kids.got.soul]

where are those comments you made before, about negligible calories burning or smth like that? 66 calories is negligible for you at 2 L?

and the hydration benefits?

and yeah I lost 15 lbs in about 1.5 months by adjusting my diet, routine and drinking lots of water. Very little strength has been lost (which is important)

another 10 and I am good to go

if all it took was drinking some ice water every day for people to just melt fat away i'm fairly certain it would be a much more heavily researched and preached.

yes, it's great for hydration but that's not even relevant to the actual conversation.

it's one thing to say something may help in fat loss but let's not act like this is some "magic pill" that everyone is missing out on.

How important is it to take fish oil with ec stack? I'm about to take my 1st dose and don't have any fish oil currently. Taking 2 doses the next 2 days and then 3 doses from then on. Already took ec before twice

i highly recommend it for the sake of potential BP issues.

[LuisEnrikee]

Brahs my jimmies are actually rustled right now.

I tried to do that poverty ass protein pancake recipe that was posted a few pages back. The one that is only egg whites + protein. Couldn't even take more than two bites out of it, ended up throwing it away. Texture was like styrofoam, no matter how much I chewed it wouldn't even disintegrate. Fukking pissed that I just wasted EIGHT FUKKING OUNCES of liquid eggwhites (basically half the carton) and two full scoops of protein on this poverty crap meal. And I also wasted all the Walden Farms syrup that I had poured on them. Fukking 84g of protein down the drain now I can't even hit my macros for the day. That's the first time a misc recipe fails me, feel like I got trolled super hard.

Cliffs:
- Protein pancakes came out like ass.
- Just eat real pancakes and hit your protein goals with other foods.

i learned this the hard way as well.
just drink the protein instead.

[TheBroBrah]

Today is my cheat day and i have been enjoying it.

I'm still going to cut even though i will not be able to lift all this week because of my injuries.

So here's my plan I've decided.

Cut for 2-3 more weeks.

Clean bulk the rest of the summer. What you brahs think?

Also thanks for the motivation guys, i was in a depressed hole yesterday wishing i could lift this week. But then i realized the rest days are for the better and really what other choice do i have? May as well enjoy my week off.

[Bonkies]

i learned this the hard way as well.
just drink the protein instead.

lol everything with protein cooked tastes soooo bad

only drink it , sludge it , fluff it

[kids.got.soul]

Brahs my jimmies are actually rustled right now.

I tried to do that poverty ass protein pancake recipe that was posted a few pages back. The one that is only egg whites + protein. Couldn't even take more than two bites out of it, ended up throwing it away. Texture was like styrofoam, no matter how much I chewed it wouldn't even disintegrate. Fukking pissed that I just wasted EIGHT FUKKING OUNCES of liquid eggwhites (basically half the carton) and two full scoops of protein on this poverty crap meal. And I also wasted all the Walden Farms syrup that I had poured on them. Fukking 84g of protein down the drain now I can't even hit my macros for the day. That's the first time a misc recipe fails me, feel like I got trolled super hard.

Cliffs:
- Protein pancakes came out like ass.
- Just eat real pancakes and hit your protein goals with other foods.

never heard of a recipe for them with just egg whites and protein powder. try adding ground up oats to the mix.

[Otaman]

if all it took was drinking some ice water every day for people to just melt fat away i'm fairly certain it would be a much more heavily researched and preached.

yes, it's great for hydration but that's not even relevant to the actual conversation.

it's one thing to say something may help in fat loss but let's not act like this is some "magic pill" that everyone is missing out on.

i highly recommend it for the sake of potential BP issues.

no I understand, my bad I said "it will help big time", maybe you took it wrong thinking I was comparing it to magic pill. It sure won't do much if you don't have proper training & diet. But it is a nice add on. You gotta drink anyways right?

Might as well stay hydrated and drink plenty (cold/warm whatever you like, warm is easier for the heart etc). Each has its own benefits

I just thought I would share a tip on how to burn a little more calories by not doing much. Who would not want an extra 60-100 calories burned every day without much work

[TheDukeUSMC]

What is the most accurate means to get your BF?

[Frumpy]

What is the most accurate means to get your BF?

The body pod things. You go in and sit in them and it does the calculations.

Calipers and whatnot aren't accurate because the measure your bf by water.

Edit: I'm not sure what the exact name of it is.

[ampUP11]

What is the most accurate means to get your BF?

BodPod



I believe it includes intra-organ fat as well (fat in between muscles/organs which is apparently different from visual bodyfat). If you want the more conventional measurement you can do hydrostatic testing (underwater) if there is a university/facility close to you with it.

Calipers are decently accurate, but the best way is to just continue to look on the forums at people discussing it and get a good eye for certain BF ranges. There's always variables if people store fat in different places so you should account for that as well.

A lot of people judge by the torso what their BF is but in all actuality there's also fat in legs, lower/upper back, etc that can make your estimation off by 1-2%.

cliffs
If a place nearby does Bod Pod or underwater testing, those are the most accurate
If not, calipers and posting pics/looking online will help you estimate for yourself

[mh22]

Yea getting fish oil tomorrow.

Another question for EC brahs:
How important is it to follow the dosing on this page?: http://www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm
Can I just do:
Today:1E,1C
Tomorrow: (1E,1C)x2
Tues: (1E,1C)x2
From then on: (1E,1C)x3 a day

Is it required to follow the dosing on that page, or would what I plan on doing have the same effect?

[-Gin-]

Quick question regarding lean bulking:

On this website (http://www.1percentedge.com/) under the "Lean Massing" preset, it has me eating -10% TDEE on rest days and +20% TDEE on workout days. I'm doing PHAT, so that's 5 days of the week I'm eating +20% TDEE for a weekly change of +0.29kgs (0.64lbs). Do you guys think I should maybe bring down the workout day calories to maybe +15% TDEE so that I'm only going +0.2kgs (0.44lbs) per week?

I know the difference is minimal and frankly, not sure if it'll even make that big a difference, but would be good to hear everyone's thoughts

Quick bump:

TL;DR
- Gaining 0.64 lbs/week vs. 0.44 lbs/week when trying to lean bulk
- Would there be a noticeable fat gain with such small difference?

Brahs my jimmies are actually rustled right now.

I tried to do that poverty ass protein pancake recipe that was posted a few pages back. The one that is only egg whites + protein. Couldn't even take more than two bites out of it, ended up throwing it away. Texture was like styrofoam, no matter how much I chewed it wouldn't even disintegrate. Fukking pissed that I just wasted EIGHT FUKKING OUNCES of liquid eggwhites (basically half the carton) and two full scoops of protein on this poverty crap meal. And I also wasted all the Walden Farms syrup that I had poured on them. Fukking 84g of protein down the drain now I can't even hit my macros for the day. That's the first time a misc recipe fails me, feel like I got trolled super hard.

Cliffs:
- Protein pancakes came out like ass.
- Just eat real pancakes and hit your protein goals with other foods.

Yeah, that sounds gross...try following this one instead:

http://ck.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=155

I ate these nearly every day while cutting. Going to make some for breakfast later on today, in fact. Top with some golden syrup and it's addicting.

[Bonkies]

What is the most accurate means to get your BF?

nuuu bruhs, hydrostatic weighing is the most accurate

[GGekko]

Brahs my jimmies are actually rustled right now.

I tried to do that poverty ass protein pancake recipe that was posted a few pages back. The one that is only egg whites + protein. Couldn't even take more than two bites out of it, ended up throwing it away. Texture was like styrofoam, no matter how much I chewed it wouldn't even disintegrate. Fukking pissed that I just wasted EIGHT FUKKING OUNCES of liquid eggwhites (basically half the carton) and two full scoops of protein on this poverty crap meal. And I also wasted all the Walden Farms syrup that I had poured on them. Fukking 84g of protein down the drain now I can't even hit my macros for the day. That's the first time a misc recipe fails me, feel like I got trolled super hard.

Cliffs:
- Protein pancakes came out like ass.
- Just eat real pancakes and hit your protein goals with other foods.

How is that possible? What protein powder are you using? Myofusion worked great for me. If you don't overcook them, you get a nice crusty cover and the insides are nice and soft.

[TheBroBrah]

One question for you guys. If i want to get down to 10% and no lower. Is it 100% necessary to go low carb? I usually take in around 200 a day, is that too much for a cut? I feel like i'm getting leaner but i just wanna hear it from you guy's perspective. Since i know you guys have been cutting longer.

There's just no way i can go under 20g of carbs a day, not happening for me.

[EnglishAsian]

Honestly I'm more starving when I eat small meals throughout the day rather than a few big ones.

I also have to agree with this.

[AvengeMe]

How is that possible? What protein powder are you using? Myofusion worked great for me. If you don't overcook them, you get a nice crusty cover and the insides are nice and soft.

This. Mine come out like perfect real pancakes every time. I cook them on medium heat covered for 2 minutes. I can't even get real pancakes to come out looking as good and uniform as these do. You must've **** the bed somewhere in the preparation.

[ampUP11]

One question for you guys. If i want to get down to 10% and no lower. Is it 100% necessary to go low carb? I usually take in around 200 a day, is that too much for a cut? I feel like i'm getting leaner but i just wanna hear it from you guy's perspective. Since i know you guys have been cutting longer.

There's just no way i can go under 20g of carbs a day, not happening for me.

Try carb cycling brah, I do 4 days of 70g carbs, 2 days of 120g, and a single day of around 220g. You can adjust accordingly but tapering up to a refeed will increase your time in a fat burning sate as your glycogen levels are depleting.

[Bonkies]

This. Mine come out like perfect real pancakes every time. I cook them on medium heat covered for 2 minutes. I can't even get real pancakes to come out looking as good and uniform as these do. You must've **** the bed somewhere in the preparation.

for real?? all u use is eggwhites on protein powder, i swear to god if it it fails im gunnnnna rage bruh lol

p.s i hve oN chocolate malt protein

[AvengeMe]

for real?? all u use is eggwhites on protein powder, i swear to god if it it fails im gunnnnna rage bruh lol

p.s i hve oN chocolate malt protein

Yeah brah for real, 8oz egg whites, 2 scoops of protein. I even use ****ty VPX protein and bb.com protein and they still come out great. Just don't cook them on high or for too long. They will be fairly thin and will have the slightest eggy texture but with some sugar/calorie free syrup, you can't beat the macros. Especially if you're low carbin it. They're also very filling.

[MoroccanBrah]

One question for you guys. If i want to get down to 10% and no lower. Is it 100% necessary to go low carb? I usually take in around 200 a day, is that too much for a cut? I feel like i'm getting leaner but i just wanna hear it from you guy's perspective. Since i know you guys have been cutting longer.

There's just no way i can go under 20g of carbs a day, not happening for me.

I answer you since I started my cut around your weight (I was 163lb, now 149lb), it's not necessary but it's the easiest way, low carb diets are the most effective. For me 200g was too much, I tried 0-50g/day it was way too low... I averaged it to 100-120g/day, it comes as oats in the morning or pre-wo, whole wheat or brown rice at lunch and 1 piece of fruit..still was able to lose fat and keep a reasonable strength at the gym

[ARhymingApe]

How is that possible? What protein powder are you using? Myofusion worked great for me. If you don't overcook them, you get a nice crusty cover and the insides are nice and soft.

Are you the cheeky kunt that suggested them in the first place? Never been so tempted to neg in my life bro fukkkk you made me waste all that protein what you think money grows on trees or something??

This. Mine come out like perfect real pancakes every time. I cook them on medium heat covered for 2 minutes. I can't even get real pancakes to come out looking as good and uniform as these do. You must've **** the bed somewhere in the preparation.

There are only TWO ingredients. I cooked them on low-medium heat. There is no possible way to mess this up, it just taste like ass.

Yeah brah for real, 8oz egg whites, 2 scoops of protein. I even use ****ty VPX protein and bb.com protein and they still come out great. Just don't cook them on high or for too long. They will be fairly thin and will have the slightest eggy texture but with some sugar/calorie free syrup, you can't beat the macros. Especially if you're low carbin it. They're also very filling.

I used that Costco shiet protein but still that is no excuse for how horrible it tasted. First time in years that I actually throw food away.

for real?? all u use is eggwhites on protein powder, i swear to god if it it fails im gunnnnna rage bruh lol

p.s i hve oN chocolate malt protein

DONT FUKKING DO IT BRO

God invented macros so that we can hit them however we want. Eat some real pancakes and then have some delicious sludge/ make an omelette with shredded cheese out of all those egg whites to hit your protein goals. All this fake "protein-whatever" food is terrible, with the exception of the infamous nutrition section "Protein Cheesecake" which I've yet to try.





Bonkies pls