I explain the liberal mentality to you (serious)

[ScubaStevo]

What about the poor who made stupid decisions at a young age but are willing to work their ass off? Should they not get some help? Specifically referring to ex-cons. Someone can get in trouble, never spend a minute in jail and have it haunt them the rest of their life.

EDIT: Also never took a government check in my life.

First of all a lot of petty crimes young people commit are wiped off their record eventually. And no, if you rob a bank, you should have that kept on your permanent record and it should affect your employment.

[Lowlander]

What about the poor who made stupid decisions at a young age but are willing to work their ass off? Should they not get some help? Specifically referring to ex-cons. Someone can get in trouble, never spend a minute in jail and have it haunt them the rest of their life.

EDIT: Also never took a government check in my life.

Don't forget the people born unintelligent bro. Inb4 OP hits us with "survival of the fittest."

Because humans with morals act like animals in the wild, right?

[ScubaStevo]

Don't forget the people born unintelligent bro. Inb4 OP hits us with "survival of the fittest"

Do you not think we provide for the poor in the U.S. enough as it is?

[Hercegovac8]

What about the poor who made stupid decisions at a young age but are willing to work their ass off? Should they not get some help? Specifically referring to ex-cons. Someone can get in trouble, never spend a minute in jail and have it haunt them the rest of their life.

EDIT: Also never took a government check in my life.

What kind of help are you suggesting? Bad decisions should not be rewarded, and if they were it would just breed more bad decisions.

I think if an ex con truly reformed himself and worked his ass off, he will make a nice liing for himself, they don't need help if they truly want to succeed.

[Grug]

ITT: all liberal are moronic, self-entitled arts students incapable of succeeding in business/life.





Hate to break it too you guys, but it cuts both ways.

[ProLibertas]

I'm a communist. You mad OP?

He's probably not you guys have a tendency to start starving to death when you accumulate in large groups.

Sometimes I think we should teach economics in school so Liberals (in the modern sense) can learn how foolish they are then I remember the government runs the schools.

[ScubaStevo]

ITT: all liberal are moronic, self-entitled arts students incapable of succeeding in business/life.





Hate to break it too you guys, but it cuts both ways.

Please quote where I criticized those who were successful?

[baroni01]

I have a heart and sympathize with the poor (who are poor because they fell on hard times, not because they made poor decisions). However, I feel the best remedy for the poor (who fell on hard times) is capitalism and employment, not government handouts funded by deficit spending and further taxation on the successful. Yes, we will have downturns in the economy. That is why it is necessary for you to live within your means and to have 6 months of living expenses in the bank.

I agree, i'm just saying that as unfortunate as it may be a lot of young people have this idealistic mindset. free this and gimme that bs not knowing that at the root someone has to pay for it. It's just ignorance on their part, what can you do but try to educate them. Unless its willful ignorance in which case they can get ****ed and hopefully they get a good hard slap of reality.

[Rage13]

Sounds great! Where do I signup?

[AJ1528]

When I was an undergrad my writing professor (whom to this day I believed was a closet racist and misogynist) asked the class "why do black activists believe that welfare is the 'new slave-master' of the African-American community?" I raised my hand and said "I guess because it keeps them from progressing out of poverty since they lose an incentive to work when they have a guaranteed income every month." He then walked up to me and gave me a high five. (deadly srs)

It was common for him to go off on tangents about women, liberals, minority groups particularly the black community, etc...

[Hercegovac8]

Don't forget the people born unintelligent bro. Inb4 OP hits us with "survival of the fittest."

Because humans with morals act like animals in the wild, right?

You can be of low intelligence and still hold a high paying job. I know plenty of dumb people who make crazy money in construction or landscaping. You don't need to have a college education to make some money.

[UltraMaximum]

From my experience in debating with mainline liberals, they are generally well meaning but don't look at the bigger picture. They would say that we need to help poor people by taxing the rich, which is a very A to B type solution (linear/one dimensional). They are all for government-funded social programs, but not looking at the debt and massive bureaucracy (useless services) created by them—which ultimately destroys buying power and avg wealth as well as creates government dependance.

I'd say I'm libertarian leaning.

[Lowlander]

Do you not think we provide for the poor in the U.S. enough as it is?

I'm not going to even waste my time debating with you bro, i'm 5 years younger than you and you're nowhere near as clued up about politics as me. You deflect every single question that's thrown at you with an accusation.

[ScubaStevo]

I agree, i'm just saying that as unfortunate as it may be a lot of young people have this idealistic mindset. free this and gimme that bs not knowing that at the root someone has to pay for it. It's just ignorance on their part, what can you do but try to educate them. Unless its willful ignorance in which case they can get ****ed and hopefully they get a good hard slap of reality.

Honestly, if I were a white collar employee who lost my job tomorrow, I would immediately retrain to become skilled in blue-collar work like manufacturing. there is HIGH demand for manufacturing jobs right now and I read an article on CNN saying you could make 100k in a few years. You can't say that about probbly 90% of white collar jobs.

This socialist movement we are experiencing in the US - I don't understand it. Get off your ass and get a job.

[ScubaStevo]

I'm not going to even waste my time debating with you bro, i'm 5 years younger than you and you're nowhere near as clued up about politics as me. You deflect every single question that's thrown at you with an accusation.

I asked you a plain vanilla question; it wasn't an accusation. Get the f*ck out, troll.

[swimmd99]

People have a right to earn their worth and get success for themselves,

just to clarify.....no, "people" do not have that "right".....they have the opportunity to earn their worth and success but there is no "right"

jussayin

[logangain22]

Not a single rebuttal was said by the liberal side of the misc... just same old "your uneducated"

repped OP

[Lowlander]

You can be of low intelligence and still hold a high paying job. I know plent of dumb people who make crazy money in construction or landscaping. You don't need to have a college education to make some money.

Is this the case for all low intelligence peoples? No. So shut the f*ck up.

[ProLibertas]

You can be of low intelligence and still hold a high paying job. I know plent of dumb people who make crazy money in construction or landscaping. You don't need to have a college education to make some money.

The beauty of the free market is specialization you can be a complete moron at 99.9% of the stuff you do but as long as your good at that .1% you can be very rich or successful.

[ScubaStevo]

Not a single rebuttal was said by the liberal side of the misc... just same old "your uneducated"

repped OP

This.

BRB OP you have no heart, you are uneducated, you don't know what you're talking about, you are a troll, you don't understand politics.

BRB not a single defensible rebuttal given.

[u5711]

[wolveriner]

Honestly, if I were a white collar employee who lost my job tomorrow, I would immediately retrain to become skilled in blue-collar work like manufacturing. there is HIGH demand for manufacturing jobs right now and I read an article on CNN saying you could make 100k in a few years. You can't say that about probbly 90% of white collar jobs.

This socialist movement we are experiencing in the US - I don't understand it. Get off your ass and get a job.

You read an article on CNN? Must be true then dude. Must be.

[Nicklol]

Wow, new and interesting stuff from stevo

[ProLibertas]

I'm not going to even waste my time debating with you bro, i'm 5 years younger than you and you're nowhere near as clued up about politics as me. You deflect every single question that's thrown at you with an accusation.

lol You're criticizing the OP for lack of political awareness. Did you not just declare yourself a communist a page ago.

[brbbowflex]

In my personal experience conservatives feel that liberals are wrong, but liberals think that conservatives are evil.

[ScubaStevo]

You read an article on CNN? Must be true then dude. Must be.

Considering it is one of the most left-leaning news sources available, I will take it as candor when speaking positively of capitalism.

[wolveriner]

This.

BRB OP you have no heart, you are uneducated, you don't know what you're talking about, you are a troll, you don't understand politics.

BRB not a single defensible rebuttal given.

My comment concerning the uneducated had to do with OP.

BRB liberals are drug addicts
BRB liberals definitely want handouts for themselves
OP doesnt know what he's talking about, hence my comment about uneducated people ITT.

[Hercegovac8]

Honestly, if I were a white collar employee who lost my job tomorrow, I would immediately retrain to become skilled in blue-collar work like manufacturing. there is HIGH demand for manufacturing jobs right now and I read an article on CNN saying you could make 100k in a few years. You can't say that about probbly 90% of white collar jobs.

This socialist movement we are experiencing in the US - I don't understand it. Get off your ass and get a job.

This

We have a crisis in America where all our handymen are basically dieing out. In 10 to 20 years we'll have a crazy shortage of plumbers, electricians, carpenters, ect. yet all these unemployed people are sitting on their ass collecting checks and blaming everyone for their misfortunes instead of taking life in their own hands and learning a trade.

[ScubaStevo]

My comment concerning the uneducated had to do with OP.

BRB liberals are drug addicts
BRB liberals definitely want handouts for themselves
OP doesnt know what he's talking about, hence my comment about uneducated people ITT.

1. I did not say that liberals are drug addicts, I said that liberals want handouts for drug addicts.

2. Liberals want handouts for themselves.

[rip1stpost]

Drug addicts, alcoholics, high school dropouts, single mothers of many different children from many different men, ex-cons, and people who spent 5 years in college accumulating 200k in student loan debt taking spring breaks drinking daily and purchasing apple products should have all of their debt wiped out, be paid 50,000 a year in tax dollars, and should have fully funded retirement for nothing productive added to society.

And, you know, guys like Keynes and Locke.