Voters Defeat Gay Marriage Again

[Streetbull]

ASHEVILLE, N.C. – North Carolina voters approved a state constitutional amendment Tuesday declaring marriage is solely between a man and a woman, dealing a setback to gay-rights advocates.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...age/54845514/1

Darn voters!! Darn Constitutional republic!!!

[Tekkendo]

What's wrong with civil union with the same rights and privileges as marriage?

[b.spencer]

What's wrong with civil union with the same rights and privileges as marriage?

The amendment approved in NC not only bans marriage, but also civil unions and domestic partnerships. It entirely eliminates what you suggest.

[Thinman]

It is unfortunate, but not surprising. People's rights should never be voted on. Yes, I believe marriage is a basic right. The fight for fairness and equility will go on.

[MrRIP]

They've already had something like this in the books before. This is a redundant law in NC what a waste of time.

[VAPlowhorse]

A great victory for sexually insecure men everywhere.

[Tekkendo]

The amendment approved in NC not only bans marriage, but also civil unions and domestic partnerships. It entirely eliminates what you suggest.

They should be allowed civil unions with the same rights and privileges.

[wwjcd]

It's sad really, people voting on restricting others in matters that don't negatively affect anyone in anyway. These are the same people who were voting for the segregation of blacks.

[TSTBrah]

It is unfortunate, but not surprising. People's rights should never be voted on. Yes, I believe marriage is a basic right. The fight for fairness and equility will go on.

Marriage isn't a right. You can't just 'think' something's a right, therefore it is.

They should be allowed civil unions with the same rights and privileges.

If government didn't license marriage we wouldn't even be having this conversation, nor would anyone.

[TSTBrah]

It's sad really, people voting on restricting others in matters that don't negatively affect anyone in anyway. These are the same people who were voting for the segregation of blacks.

itt: sexual orientation = race

You know only about 20-30 years ago it was the consensus that homosexuality was a disease. So your frame of reference is much different than older folks on the issue.

[wwjcd]

itt: sexual orientation = race

You know only about 20-30 years ago it was the consensus that homosexuality was a disease. So your frame of reference is much different than older folks on the issue.

What's the difference? You can't change your race, you can't change your social orientation. And BTW, people use to believe the earth was flat, they were wrong. They use to believe homosexuality was a disease, they were wrong, what's your point?

[TSTBrah]

What's the difference? You can't change your race, you can't change your social orientation. And BTW, people use to believe the earth was flat, they were wrong. They use to believe homosexuality was a disease, they were wrong, what's your point?

Proof you're born gay?

Secondly, not everyone spends most of their days online reading the newest scientific headlines. They grew up thinking homosexuality was a disease and 'gross', so they have a stigma against it. It's really not hard to understand. Your frame of reference is different.

[wwjcd]

Proof you're born gay?

Secondly, not everyone spends most of their days online reading the newest scientific headlines. They grew up thinking homosexuality was a disease and 'gross', so they have a stigma against it. It's really not hard to understand. Your frame of reference is different.

Prove to me you're not born gay, when did you decide to be attracted to bitches and not dudes? You didn't. Neither did gays. And thinking something is nasty doesn't give anyone the right to restrict those performing those nasty actions. How does two dudes getting married affect you in any way?

[HELIX35]

A great victory for intolerance and bigotry.

The klan would be proud

[navyfotbal]

Prove to me you're not born gay, when did you decide to be attracted to bitches and not dudes? You didn't. Neither did gays. And thinking something is nasty doesn't give anyone the right to restrict those performing those nasty actions. How does two dudes getting married affect you in any way?

If I'm getting this right, TSTBrah isn't against gay marriage (at least he isn't arguing that here), he is just saying that you have to understand the reference point of people older than we are. It's hard for them to think of being gay as just who someone is, not a "problem," because they have been told that it is a disease or whatever their entire life.

[Cuchulainn]

It is unfortunate, but not surprising. People's rights should never be voted on. Yes, I believe marriage is a basic right. The fight for fairness and equility will go on.

This x2.

The rights of a minority should never be voted on by a majority. My guess is that some southern states, if given the opportunity, would vote to repeal the Civil Rights Act.

[fl00ridaBuff]

phaggot loses again buwahaha

in before gay mafia

[TSTBrah]

Prove to me you're not born gay, when did you decide to be attracted to bitches and not dudes? You didn't. Neither did gays.

You do realize this isn't proof of anything right? It could easily be triggered by childhood growing conditions, the people you grew up around..really anytime during your pre-pubescent life.

It's hard to take a firm stand on something that is unknown. Which is pretty funny that most atheists hate theists, then turn around and are gung-ho about gay rights when it's also not empirically proven.

And thinking something is nasty doesn't give anyone the right to restrict those performing those nasty actions. How does two dudes getting married affect you in any way?

Actually in this country you're given two options: to vote yes or to vote no, so yes you do have the right to restrict the union of two males or females.

You're confusing me for the people I'm describing. I have no preference either way, I really don't care. In not caring, I couldn't care less about going out and voting for gay rights. I personally don't believe the government should license marriage, in doing so they wouldn't define it, and this whole problem would be solved.

[brighamw]

Prove to me you're not born gay, when did you decide to be attracted to bitches and not dudes? You didn't. Neither did gays. And thinking something is nasty doesn't give anyone the right to restrict those performing those nasty actions. How does two dudes getting married affect you in any way?

Oh really?

Any "nasty actions"???

[wwjcd]

If I'm getting this right, TSTBrah isn't against gay marriage (at least he isn't arguing that here), he is just saying that you have to understand the reference point of people older than we are. It's hard for them to think of being gay as just who someone is, not a "problem," because they have been told that it is a disease or whatever their entire life.

Yeah, that's not an excuse, being dumb as fuk is never a viable excuse.

[wwjcd]

Oh really?

Any "nasty actions"???

Do these nasty actions harm anyone? How does two dudes fuking harm you, it doesn't affect me or anyone else in anyway.

[TSTBrah]

This x2.

The rights of a minority should never be voted on by a majority. My guess is that some southern states, if given the opportunity, would vote to repeal the Civil Rights Act.

The Civil Rights Act definitely had some bad pieces to it, it was the building block of government intervention into business and private property. I'm not so sure a government mandating equality fixes the moral problem at hand either.

And again, marriage is not a right.

[v4micajr]

North Carolina amended their constitution in 1875 to ban interracial marriage... a ban that lasted until 1971

[TSTBrah]

Yeah, that's not an excuse, being dumb as fuk is never a viable excuse.

It's how they were raised. Not everyone thinks like you. Time to get over it.

[brighamw]

Prove to me you're not born gay, when did you decide to be attracted to bitches and not dudes? You didn't. Neither did gays. And thinking something is nasty doesn't give anyone the right to restrict those performing those nasty actions. How does two dudes getting married affect you in any way?

Here is your exact quote...

Do these nasty actions harm anyone? How does two dudes fuking harm you, it doesn't affect me or anyone else in anyway.

Were you just addressing gay "nasty actions" to use your words...

Or any "nasty actions"?

We as a society restrict "nasty actions", as you call them all the time...

Just trying to understand if you're only for the freedom to perform certain "nasty actions' or all???

[HooahKeslie]

PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF GAYS DESTROYING THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE AND FAMILY.

[MrRIP]

Rights should not be voted on in America. Imagine if they put up the Emancipation Proclamation for a national vote...

[Apeus]

Darn voters!! Darn Constitutional republic!!!

I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt a while back after you had a few good posts in a row, but **** it was such a mistake.

Yeah, "darn" our Constitutional Republican and its 14TH AMENDMENT.

[Apeus]

Here is your exact quote...




Were you just addressing gay "nasty actions" to use your words...

Or any "nasty actions"?

We as a society restrict "nasty actions", as you call them all the time...

Just trying to understand if you're only for the freedom to perform certain "nasty actions' or all???

So sick of your bull**** on this forum as well...


I don't even know why I bother in this section anymore between the redneck trash like you and all the ****ing idiotic trolls.

[TSTBrah]

Rights should not be voted on in America. Imagine if they put up the Emancipation Proclamation for a national vote...

This thread is filled to the brim with people who absolutely do not understand what rights are.