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    Originally Posted by MikeK46 View Post
    Look at it this way: It takes 3 hours for the stomach to empty after an average-sized mixed meal. A 3000 calorie meal will take triple that time. At 7-8 hours in, there's still food in the stomach that hasn't even begun digesting yet.
    Please read the following article by Layne Norton, as his doctoral research indicated the importance of timing in order for optimal protein synthesis:

    http://jerrybruton.files.wordpress.c...yne-norton.pdf

    (No, he is clearly not recommending 10 meals per day, but 1 or 2 are not optimal either.)
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    Originally Posted by orb85750 View Post
    (No, he is clearly not recommending 10 meals per day, but 1 or 2 are not optimal either.)
    What's optimal is unknown and it might well vary from individual to individual, based on a host of variables.

    That said, do you realize that optimizing might mean an additional 1% or 2% development in skeletal muscle, which translates into perhaps 25 grams to 50 grams of additional muscle mass per year, if you were to do everything right (assuming an individual with a few years of effective lifting experience).

    And I'm not even getting into the disclosable conflict of interest regarding that researcher and his commercial interests in FFAA supplements.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    What's optimal is unknown and it might well vary from individual to individual, based on a host of variables.

    That said, do you realize that optimizing might mean an additional 1% or 2% development in skeletal muscle, which translates into perhaps 25 grams to 50 grams of additional muscle mass per year, if you were to do everything right (assuming an individual with a few years of effective lifting experience).

    And I'm not even getting into the disclosable conflict of interest regarding that researcher and his commercial interests in FFAA supplements.
    Wouldn't trying to get 1% or 2% more by following some retarded meal pattern cause stress = cortisol=muscle evaporating so it would actually be worse than not worrying about such minuscule details?
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    Originally Posted by Keepinitbriehl View Post
    So i was planning on buying some bulk brown rice this week and i know its a great part of a bodybuilders diet, just wondering when a good time to eat it would be, pre workout, post workout, with any of my chicken breast/protein meals?

    Any advice would be appreciated
    Honestly i just eat it whenever. Like said, when your hungry. Its a moderate uptake carb, such as oatmeal is very slow, sugar is fast, so anytime is a good time. Generally i eat it with lunch, 2 hours before lifting
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    Originally Posted by BBqChicken1 View Post
    Wouldn't trying to get 1% or 2% more by following some retarded meal pattern cause stress = cortisol=muscle evaporating so it would actually be worse than not worrying about such minuscule details?
    Yes.
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    Originally Posted by Simmo0508 View Post
    Basmati > Brown > Regular white
    There are different types of rice besides basmati?
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    Depends on the dish.

    Some foods go well with Brown rice and some with White rice. Both are a great source of carbohydrates.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    What's optimal is unknown and it might well vary from individual to individual, based on a host of variables.

    That said, do you realize that optimizing might mean an additional 1% or 2% development in skeletal muscle, which translates into perhaps 25 grams to 50 grams of additional muscle mass per year, if you were to do everything right (assuming an individual with a few years of effective lifting experience).

    And I'm not even getting into the disclosable conflict of interest regarding that researcher and his commercial interests in FFAA supplements.
    Where are you getting the 1-2% figure? Did you read his papers? What conflicts of interest were in place at the time of his research on the importance of nutrient timing as it relates to protein synthesis?
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    Seriously?

    It's as if its impossible for you all to not be condescending dbags.. The guy asked for suggestions about brown rice and look where it took all of you, wow. No need to go out of your way to slam people. Try just not saying anything at all or directing someone to another thread without sounding like an idiot. If you feel the need to educate someone on why you believe they're wrong than do so in a mature way; we're not in the 4th grade last time I checked. Jus sayin ;-).

    Oh and don't bother telling me about how late this post is cause obviously you're still reading it brah
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    Originally Posted by Keepinitbriehl View Post
    So i was planning on buying some bulk brown rice this week and i know its a great part of a bodybuilders diet, just wondering when a good time to eat it would be, pre workout, post workout, with any of my chicken breast/protein meals?

    Any advice would be appreciated
    As long as you keep the macros in check, you eat the rice whenever you want to to fill up your daily carbs... Most people tend to emphasize carbs pre and post workout if that helps you go for it
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    Originally Posted by mandimeoutof10 View Post
    Some argue this but IMO this will add up to too many carbs at the end of the day. While your daily totals aren't as important as meal frequency, I still believe that they matter. My buddy in the gym (he's hooooge) told me this.
    Yeah, you definitely stated that backwards.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Consider why you're selecting brown rice (or rice at all).

    Here's some food for thought:
    I don't think that matters really, nitrogen balance should no problem if your eating enough protein anyways.

    I don't see the issue in eating brown rice if you prefer brown rice.
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    brown rice is over 9000 years old. alot older than this forum is.

    If so many people didn't post childish stupidity instead of helpful advice nobody would have to keep responding.

    Eat the brown rice whenever. it is brown rice, it is whole, it helps speed up recovery time. Eat like some 1-2 hours before and/or 30-45 minutes after workout

    brown rice is 99 cents here for a pretty big bag, so it is convenient.

    I mix mine with some shelled soybeans.
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    That's quite a statement you've made, given that Layne is a very successful pro natural bodybuilder and scientist.
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    brown rice is over 9000 years old. alot older than this forum is.

    If so many people didn't post childish stupidity instead of helpful advice nobody would have to keep responding.

    Eat the brown rice whenever. it is brown rice, it is whole, it helps speed up recovery time. Eat like some 1-2 hours before and/or 30-45 minutes after workout

    brown rice is 99 cents here for a pretty big bag, so it is convenient.

    I mix mine with some shelled soybeans.
    Ditto. It's only cheaper if he buys it dry though.
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