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    Thumbs up When to eat Brown Rice

    So i was planning on buying some bulk brown rice this week and i know its a great part of a bodybuilders diet, just wondering when a good time to eat it would be, pre workout, post workout, with any of my chicken breast/protein meals?

    Any advice would be appreciated
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    Originally Posted by Keepinitbriehl View Post
    So i was planning on buying some bulk brown rice this week and i know its a great part of a bodybuilders diet, just wondering when a good time to eat it would be, pre workout, post workout, with any of my chicken breast/protein meals?

    Any advice would be appreciated
    Eat when you're hungry, and what you enjoy. Food names are irrelevant and there's nothing "magical" about brown rice. White and yellow taste far better anyway imo.
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    First, brown rice is not a great part of a bodybuilder's diet.

    Second, it doesn't matter when you eat it. Meal timing is irrelevant. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=123915821
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    Whenever you want to. You don't even need to eat brown rice if you don't want. Nutrient timing is a myth apart from personal preference and what you do best on.
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    Eat it every 2.5 hours to keep your metabolic fire burning. Also, its good all throughout the day but don't waste your anabolic window with a low GI carb like brown rice. You've got to get dextrose or waxy maize (I prefer waxy maize) RIGHT after your workout (less then ten minutes after your last set is optimal) to initiate an insulin spike. My only advice is to stay natty. Creatine, not even once.

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    Originally Posted by mandimeoutof10 View Post
    Eat 1 grain every 42 seconds to keep your metabolic fire burning
    imo
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    Consider why you're selecting brown rice (or rice at all).

    Here's some food for thought:

    Originally Posted by alan aragon View Post
    Re: brown rice vs white, technically, brown rice would be a slightly inferior choice to white rice from the standpoint of nutrient bioavailability & nitrogen retention.


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    Comparison of the nutritional value between brown rice and white rice

    Callegaro Mda D, Tirapegui J. Arq Gastroenterol. 1996 Oct-Dec;33(4):225-31.

    Cereals are considered an important source of nutrients both in human and animal nourishment. In this paper nutritional value of brown rice is compared to that of white rice in relation to nutrients. Results show that despite higher nutrients contents of brown rice compared to white rice, experimental data does not provide evidence that the brown rice diet is better than the diet based on white rice. Possible antinutritional factors present in brown rice have adverse effects on bioavailability of this cereal nutrients.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9...ubmed_RVDocSum

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    Effects of brown rice on apparent digestibility and balance of nutrients in young men on low protein diets

    J Nutr Sci Vitaminol (Tokyo). 1987 Jun;33(3):207-18. .Miyoshi H, Okuda T, Okuda K, Koishi H.

    The effect of brown rice with low protein intake was studied in five healthy young men. Feces were weighed, the digestibility of nutrients was determined, and blood tests were made. Each subject followed a diet consisting mainly of polished rice for 14 days and one consisting mainly of brown rice for 8 days. Both diets contained 0.5 g protein per kg of body weight. The brown rice diet had 3 times as much dietary fiber as the polished rice diet. On the brown rice diet, fecal weight increased, and apparent digestibility of energy, protein, and fat decreased, as did the absorption rates of Na, K, and P. The nitrogen balance was negative on both diets, but more negative on the brown rice diet. The phosphorus balance on the brown rice diet was significantly negative, but other minerals were not affected by the diet. The levels of cholesterol and minerals in the plasma were not significantly different on the polished rice diet and the brown rice diet. Comparing these results with data on standard protein intake (Miyoshi, H. et al (1986) J. Nutr. Sci. Vitaminol., 32, 581-589.), we concluded that brown rice reduced protein digestibility and nitrogen balance.

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    Originally Posted by bixbysnyder View Post
    imo
    Some argue this but IMO this will add up to too many carbs at the end of the day. While your daily totals aren't as important as meal frequency, I still believe that they matter. My buddy in the gym (he's hooooge) told me this.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Consider why you're selecting brown rice (or rice at all).
    White rice is a no no???
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    Nutrient Timing is Irrelevant for Body Composition in Natural Bodybuilders
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Consider why you're selecting brown rice (or rice at all).

    Here's some food for thought:
    idk ive just always read/heard brown rice is a good choice to incorporate into my diet, im bulking with high cals
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    Originally Posted by Keepinitbriehl View Post
    idk ive just always read/heard brown rice is a good choice to incorporate into my diet, im bulking with high cals
    I don't know where you heard that, but what I suggest is that you at least take a few minutes to learn the bascis about nutrition, as it's clear that you're entirely clueless about the topic:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=136691851
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    when you want rice, but only have brown rice
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    Originally Posted by Keepinitbriehl View Post
    idk ive just always read/heard brown rice is a good choice to incorporate into my diet, im bulking with high cals
    Hear say and personal anecdotes?


    Must be legit.
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    Brown rice contains more minerals, such as magnesium and zinc, than white rice. It also contains significantly more dietary fiber. In addition to the health benefits of fiber (found in virtually all whole grains, vegetables, fruits), you'll be less likely to overeat fiber-rich foods, because they provide more satiety than those without fiber. Timing your consumption of brown rice? I don't know, but carbs in general are a good energy source for heavy duty weightlifting workouts. Just make sure you're digested well enough before starting your workout.
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    Originally Posted by MikeK46 View Post
    Nutrient Timing is Irrelevant for Body Composition in Natural Bodybuilders
    I think we all believe in some degree of nutrient timing, although it is likely an over-emphasized construction of companies trying to sell supplements.

    Spreading 3000 calories of protein, carbs, and fats into several meals rather than eating them all in a single meal at night -- that's nutrient timing too.
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    Originally Posted by orb85750 View Post
    I think we all believe in some degree of nutrient timing, although it is likely an over-emphasized construction of companies trying to sell supplements.

    Spreading 3000 calories of protein, carbs, and fats into several meals rather than eating them all in a single meal at night -- that's nutrient timing too.
    it should depend on the lifestyle of the person. either will have the same affect in terms of body composition
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    Originally Posted by orb85750 View Post
    Brown rice contains more minerals, such as magnesium and zinc, than white rice. It also contains significantly more dietary fiber. In addition to the health benefits of fiber (found in virtually all whole grains, vegetables, fruits), you'll be less likely to overeat fiber-rich foods, because they provide more satiety than those without fiber. Timing your consumption of brown rice? I don't know, but carbs in general are a good energy source for heavy duty weightlifting workouts. Just make sure you're digested well enough before starting your workout.
    even though brown rice has more nutrients... the bioavailability has shown to be lower.

    edit: post #7 lol
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    Originally Posted by rob2093124 View Post
    even though brown rice has more nutrients... the bioavailability has shown to be lower.

    edit: post #7 lol
    That study was specifically done for low-protein diets, which is unlikely to be relevant for most Americans, let alone those on bodybuilder-type diets?
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    Originally Posted by rob2093124 View Post
    it should depend on the lifestyle of the person. either will have the same affect in terms of body composition
    Are you saying that you can utilize 150-200 grams of protein if consumed at one sitting?
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    Originally Posted by orb85750 View Post
    Are you saying that you can utilize 150-200 grams of protein if consumed at one sitting?
    I don't know if he is, but I am.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    I don't know where you heard that, but what I suggest is that you at least take a few minutes to learn the bascis about nutrition, as it's clear that you're entirely clueless about the
    I'm not clueless, I just asked for advice? And most people on this thread agree brown rice is very popular as it has many nutrients and is a good healthy source of carbs
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    Originally Posted by Keepinitbriehl View Post
    And most people on this thread agree brown rice is very popular as it has many nutrients and is a good healthy source of carbs
    I think 1 person, if that, said that. We all said the opposite, actually.
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    Originally Posted by Keepinitbriehl View Post
    I'm not clueless, I just asked for advice? And most people on this thread agree brown rice is very popular as it has many nutrients and is a good healthy source of carbs
    If you actually like brown rice, then eat it whenevery you want to; if you've chosen it over some other variety that you actually like better, there's no need to do that.

    The timing of your meals makes little difference compared to eating to your daily requirement by the end of the day.
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    Originally Posted by orb85750 View Post
    Are you saying that you can utilize 150-200 grams of protein if consumed at one sitting?
    why couldn't you

    edit: been eating LeanGains style. it fits my lifestyle
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    Originally Posted by orb85750 View Post
    That study was specifically done for low-protein diets, which is unlikely to be relevant for most Americans, let alone those on bodybuilder-type diets?
    did you overlook the first study?
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    If you actually like brown rice, then eat it whenevery you want to; if you've chosen it over some other variety that you actually like better, there's no need to do that.

    The timing of your meals makes little difference compared to eating to your daily requirement by the end of the day.
    I love brown rice, so I will eat it
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    Originally Posted by orb85750 View Post
    I think we all believe in some degree of nutrient timing
    Not for body composition, because it's irrelevant. the body has evolved to where 24hrs isn't long enough where specific nutrient timing is necessary. you can eat every other day if you feel like it.

    For energy/performance, mood, etc. it's a different story.
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    Originally Posted by rob2093124 View Post
    why couldn't you

    edit: been eating LeanGains style. it fits my lifestyle
    Layne Norton studies protein utilization, and I consider him an authority. I have communicated with him personally and he clearly asserted that you need to consume adequate protein at more than one meal a day, and that you cannot make up for low protein intake at several meals by having a massive protein dose later in the day.
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    Originally Posted by MikeK46 View Post
    Not for body composition, because it's irrelevant. the body has evolved to where 24hrs isn't long enough where specific nutrient timing is necessary. you can eat every other day if you feel like it.

    For energy/performance, mood, etc. it's a different story.
    Protein is the issue here. See my previous post.
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