What's up with Oscar Ardon?

[OliFs]

Be nice. It's slightly relevant.

So. Does anyone know? From coaching Kai, Evan and Victor to... Nobody? What happened?

[Loadout]

[Dupidsk8ter]

I googled oscar Ardon and the very first post was an article about him. Apparently he was taking 50% of kais money **IF he placed. Kai didn't like this so he moved with goerge and thats who is prepping him this year. In the article Oscar went on to say that he told kai if at any point he didn't feel this was fair he could take less. Personally based on kais reactions to his last placing at the Mr.O, I think he is just looking to blame someone. I think it was ****ty of him to just drop Oscar like a bad habbit.

[OliFs]

I googled oscar Ardon and the very first post was an article about him. Apparently he was taking 50% of kais money **IF he placed. Kai didn't like this so he moved with goerge and thats who is prepping him this year. In the article Oscar went on to say that he told kai if at any point he didn't feel this was fair he could take less. Personally based on kais reactions to his last placing at the Mr.O, I think he is just looking to blame someone. I think it was ****ty of him to just drop Oscar like a bad habbit.

Yeah this I knew thanks though.

[wtness]

I googled oscar Ardon and the very first post was an article about him. Apparently he was taking 50% of kais money **IF he placed. Kai didn't like this so he moved with goerge and thats who is prepping him this year. In the article Oscar went on to say that he told kai if at any point he didn't feel this was fair he could take less. Personally based on kais reactions to his last placing at the Mr.O, I think he is just looking to blame someone. I think it was ****ty of him to just drop Oscar like a bad habbit.

from what i understood the deal was oscar will do "everything" for kai for the prep and won't charge him for it ( buying foods/cooking food/supplements) and he just takes 50% of the winnings of the show

wether it is fair or not, i'm not sure, i'm sure kai saw it was fair even after winning 2x arnolds

Oscar still preps people, i think his biggest client is Keith William

[DavisForman]

Oscar is training some amateurs at the moment. One of his guys just won a state show a month or so ago. MD had an interview with him and his client, but I can't seem to find it.

[jahaa]

uploaded 1 month ago.

[OliFs]

Any chance for some cliffs on that Rx Muscle interview? Will rep

[Gorky88]

That %50 is true but for a reason. When Kai was struggling thats what they decided on and kept it that way. It is not like he was stealing the money from Kai.

[wala]

Sounds like a fair deal to me. Now that Kai has money and sponsors tho, I can see why he wouldn't be happy with 50%, but a bit sh!tty on Oscar if you ask me.

[zjpj]

50% is totally fair if it is true that he was not paid anything else and paid fo all of Kai's food and other expenses It's like a lawyer only getting coningency fees if he wins the case, or a CEO getting stock options. It ensures hat everyone's interests are aligned. That said, if Kai dint like the deal, he didn't have to agree to it. Really do to hi k Oscar can be blamed at all or he financial arrangement.

[ZBlacktt]

I was just watching old video's on YT last night and he was training with Victor like last year for the Mr O.

[FAN0FdaSport]

I was just watching old video's on YT last night and he was training with Victor like last year for the Mr O.

You mean Arnold? Vic didn't work with Oscar for the O, he said so himself.

[BartPimpson]

Sounds like a fair deal to me. Now that Kai has money and sponsors tho, I can see why he wouldn't be happy with 50%, but a bit sh!tty on Oscar if you ask me.

People forget that Kai himself came up with the 50% idea, since he felt he needed intensive supervision and Oscar needed to be compensated for the time he could have spent with other clients.

[203mh]

People forget that Kai himself came up with the 50% idea, since he felt he needed intensive supervision and Oscar needed to be compensated for the time he could have spent with other clients.

Spot-On Bart

Oscar seems to put a lot of effort in his clients though... One of the few Gurus who actually went on stage

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This 50% thing with Kai is probably only part of the reason why Kai left him.

I think Kai felt Oscar pushed him way too much in every possible way. Training, diet, drugs, etc.. maybe even philosophy.. which lead him to back problems, gut, bad conditioning, etc..

Kai was definitely over____(insert any word here)...
over trained
over feed
over thinking
over grown organs (??? lol)

and to be honest, Oscar was a master in bro science.. Smartest move for Kai ever

[ZBlacktt]

You mean Arnold? Vic didn't work with Oscar for the O, he said so himself.

Could have been, I was video surfing and came across the one of him and Vic.

[JanesLastResort]

This 50% thing with Kai is probably only part of the reason why Kai left him.

I think Kai felt Oscar pushed him way too much in every possible way. Training, diet, drugs, etc.. maybe even philosophy.. which lead him to back problems, gut, bad conditioning, etc..

Kai was definitely over____(insert any word here)...
over trained
over feed
over thinking
over grown organs (??? lol)

and to be honest, Oscar was a master in bro science.. Smartest move for Kai ever

This.

In the report video where he announced he isn't doing the arnold Kai went into detail how the 2010 mr olympia almost wiped him out completely. If that's entirely true or not remains, but it's safe to say he took a huge blow at that show. Dropping Oscar was one of hs best decisions.

[OliFs]

Then again they say Farah uses DNP with his clients and supposedly that aint exactly healthy lol

[ThaJerzeyDevil]

Then again they say Farah uses DNP with his clients and supposedly that aint exactly healthy lol

nothing they take is healthy dnp is fine as long as u dont get crazy with it then u end up in the hospital with a 110 degree fever and ur organs cook themselves

[fitfinn89]

You mean Arnold? Vic didn't work with Oscar for the O, he said so himself.

oscar did train vic but it was a couple years ago just for one comp. though, It was a big thing casue vic travled a hour or 2 though traffic to train with oscar each day, that why vic dropped him didnt like the travling and He also missed his old training

[FAN0FdaSport]

This 50% thing with Kai is probably only part of the reason why Kai left him.

I think Kai felt Oscar pushed him way too much in every possible way. Training, diet, drugs, etc.. maybe even philosophy.. which lead him to back problems, gut, bad conditioning, etc..

Kai was definitely over____(insert any word here)...
over trained
over feed
over thinking
over grown organs (??? lol)

and to be honest, Oscar was a master in bro science.. Smartest move for Kai ever

So Oscar was brainwashing Kai as well?

oscar did train vic but it was a couple years ago just for one comp. though, It was a big thing casue vic travled a hour or 2 though traffic to train with oscar each day, that why vic dropped him didnt like the travling and He also missed his old training

It was the 2011 Arnold classic. There are tons of vids leading up to that show from MD. Vic never said anything negative for leaving.

[caconway]

I miss Oscar/Kai. But it was probably a good decision. They share similar philosophical views but Oscar it seems tended to overtrain him, among other things.

[BartPimpson]

Don't not bash Oscar guys. He brought Kai in "on" a whole lot of times.

Oscar worked with Kai for years before he became a pro (other than a brief period in 09 when Kai worked with Charles Glass). Really, any time Kai won a contest prior to 2011, we have Oscar to thank.

[Kenny Redd]

Then again they say Farah uses DNP with his clients and supposedly that aint exactly healthy lol

What's dnp?

[asbrus]

L0l s0 0scar is supp0sed t0 w0rk f0r free. Y0U GUYS ARE FUNNY.

[wrkoutfrq]

What's dnp?

2,4-Dinitrophenol

[wolfpilp]

This 50% thing with Kai is probably only part of the reason why Kai left him.

I think Kai felt Oscar pushed him way too much in every possible way. Training, diet, drugs, etc.. maybe even philosophy.. which lead him to back problems, gut, bad conditioning, etc..

Kai was definitely over____(insert any word here)...
over trained
over feed
over thinking
over grown organs (??? lol)

and to be honest, Oscar was a master in bro science.. Smartest move for Kai ever

well said brah.

[DavisForman]

Then again they say Farah uses DNP with his clients and supposedly that aint exactly healthy lol

Actually they say Farah takes his athlete's health far more seriously than most trainers.

[OliFs]

Actually they say Farah takes his athlete's health far more seriously than most trainers.

Yeah I've heard that too. I'm more inclined to believe your statement seeing how it was also said that Kais health was terrible when just starting his co-op with Farah and that it then improved greatly.