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    A local amateur MMA fighter beats a man to death (serious) (long read) (vids/pics)

    A local MMA fighter that has had several amateur fights in the Southern IL area is being held responsible for the beating death of a 23 year old man. This really shows the lack of respect and discipline in amateur fighters. It makes me sad to know that someone that is a representative of local MMA doesn't have the discipline to know when to stop beating someone before they die.


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    MOUNT CARMEL, Ill. — A Mount Carmel, Ill., man beaten severely during an altercation last month died Wednesday morning at an Evansville hospital.

    William “Billy” Gunzel, Jr., 23, died at 7:07 a.m. at Deaconess Hospital. Family members said he never regained consciousness after the beating. An official with the Vanderburgh County Coroner’s office said that Gunzel died of apparent head injuries sustained in the beating. An autopsy was to be performed Wednesday afternoon.

    “It happened at Mom’s house on Sunday, Sept. 25,” said Gunzel’s sister, Kimberly Sullens of Mt. Carmel. “Some underage kids showed up that had been drinking, and Billy tried to run them off. That’s when he was jumped and beaten.”

    One suspect was arrested at the time of the altercation. Jeremy A. Birkla, 19 of Mt. Carmel was formally charged with aggravated battery causing great bodily harm — a class-3 felony. He posted $1,000 cash bond and was released pending a preliminary hearing on Nov. 21 in Wabash County Circuit Court. Birkla is known in Southern Illinois as an amateur mixed martial arts fighter, who fought formal bouts through a local MMA promotions firm.

    A 2006 graduate of Mount Carmel High School, Gunzel, who was unemployed at the time of the beating, had just been hired to work at the power plant near Princeton, Ind., his sister said, and was to report to work two days later.

    “We have had so much support from the community throughout all of this,” Sullens said. “We just knew he would pull through, but an infection took over that affected his lungs, and he just gave up.”

    Gunzel had been in a coma since being transferred from the hospital in Mt. Carmel to Deaconess Hospital on Sept. 25.

    A fund to help the Gunzel family with medical expenses is still active at the First National Bank in Mount Carmel.

    The investigation into Gunzel’s death is ongoing. No additional charges had been filed as of late Wednesday.



    Here is a shytty video of him fighting and losing in some "fight club" set up bs





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    wow the guy had a kid???? they need to ****ing control themselves
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    no hate against most mma fighters. But alot of the crowd is trashy as phuck. i hate going to events and its just a bunch of redneck *******s that think they're tough looking for a fight.
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    Originally Posted by boxingbrah View Post
    no hate against most mma fighters. But alot of the crowd is trashy as phuck. i hate going to events and its just a bunch of redneck *******s that think they're tough looking for a fight.
    this...that is why i watch the ppvs at my home.

    also i was glad when chuck liddel kept getting ktfo and finally retired. he was a white trash magnet.
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    Originally Posted by Dmc1240 View Post
    wow the guy had a kid???? they need to ****ing control themselves
    yes no matter how trashy he looked that kid no longer has a dad.

    Originally Posted by boxingbrah View Post
    no hate against most mma fighters. But alot of the crowd is trashy as phuck. i hate going to events and its just a bunch of redneck *******s that think they're tough looking for a fight.
    I totally agree with you. You see the absolutely most trashy people at MMA events. Guys and Girls both are super trashy. Rednecks and Thugs are everywhere and all the women look like std strippers. AND I pay $30 to see this shyt wtf, I'm glad I only go to watch my training partners fight and then leave.

    Makes me glad I belong to a gym that teaches respect and discipline. A Nova Uniao USA school where the owners and instructors are a cop and a correctional officer.
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    Originally Posted by boxingbrah View Post
    no hate against most mma fighters. But alot of the crowd is trashy as phuck. i hate going to events and its just a bunch of redneck *******s that think they're tough looking for a fight.
    this.

    brb *******s with tattoos trying to pick fights with everyone
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    From personal experience, most guys who do mma constantly want to tell everyone in a 5 mile radius about it and will start a fight for the sake of it.
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    The amount of scum in MMA is unbelievable.

    I blame these "trainers" for taking these thugs and rednecks and teaching them how to be a more effective bully but not teaching them how to respect other people.
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    Originally Posted by NewAccountBrah View Post
    From personal experience, most guys who do mma constantly want to tell everyone in a 5 mile radius about it and will start a fight for the sake of it.
    Fuking Scum
    Never understood why they did that
    funny story, some kid who was taking MMA classes from some silly mcdojo type establishment was talking shit to my school's wrestling squad about how he could knock each and every one of them out, as well as submit them on the ground. Finally one guy got fed up with the little pheg and called him out.

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    So much truth in this thread. I an a big mma fan but I dislike thee fans. I go watch thee ppvs but there are people always looking for a fight. This article is sad, the guy was just protecting his family. This is one of the reasons why I stored going to training centers, thee guy were always like "yeah I kicked this guys azz last night" and I that just pissed me off. Repped for sad story but for sad story.
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    I was in Vegas last new years at the MGM during a UFC event. Trashy Tapout *******s in crying baby angel shirts with rhinestones everywhere..and everyone looked like they wanted to fight someone


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    Originally Posted by hutch1999 View Post

    These "instructors" need to focus on respect and discipline. This is why MMA gets a bad name for being trashy.
    I couldn't agree more on this point, most fight sports/martial arts seem to teach that outside of the gym/dojo/whatever you want to call it you only act in self defense. MMA it seems has attracted a lot of "coaches" that are just not in the sport for the right reasons, or that have the right attitude.
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    Originally Posted by wayne53 View Post
    I was in Vegas last new years at the MGM during a UFC event. Trashy Tapout *******s in crying baby angel shirts with rhinestones everywhere..and everyone looked like they wanted to fight someone


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    from what I heard the guy that got beat to death is the one that started the confrontation by pushing the hillbilly mma fighter
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    Originally Posted by Mofood View Post
    from what I heard the guy that got beat to death is the one that started the confrontation by pushing the hillbilly mma fighter

    Originally Posted by victim's sister
    “It happened at Mom’s house on Sunday, Sept. 25,” said Gunzel’s sister, Kimberly Sullens of Mt. Carmel. “Some underage kids showed up that had been drinking, and Billy tried to run them off. That’s when he was jumped and beaten.”
    Who ever started it doesn't matter. It matters that a trained fighter with 9 amateur mma fights took the beating way too far. It gives the MMA world a bad name.
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    I bet he was wearing a tapout tshirt
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    I was on some website looking around and saw the trashiest of the trashiest white trash woman, and I sh!t you not, she had a TapOut tat on her lower back. I just lol'd and thought how sad and pathetic. I am a HUGE mma fan, but sh!t like that gives it a bad name.
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    this is why im grateful for fighters like GSP
    This, have great respect for the guy. newsflash for all these *******. ITS A SPORT...KEEP IT IN THE GYM
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    Here's a couple more pics of the victim and his kid

    really sad shyt to look at bros



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    Damn, dude got worked in that video. LOL.
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    I agree UFC attract trash in general, I thought the Rio crowd made your typical white trash at American events look like choir boys so its not just limited to whites but the general people attracted as a whole.

    UFC could use some professionalism to quell the trashy image imo, getting rid of the silly gladiator theme was a good start, now to remove the crappy metalcore music and a president that actually tries to act like one. I also think the cage and its connotations doesnt help but not much can be done about that.

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    what *******s. i hope they get raped in prison.
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    Originally Posted by Serenadium View Post
    I agree UFC attract trash in general, I thought the Rio crowd made your typical white trash at American events look like choir boys so its not just limited to whites but the general people attracted as a whole.

    UFC could use some professionalism to quell the trashy image imo, getting rid of the silly gladiator theme was a good start, now to remove the crappy metalcore music and a president that actually tries to act like one. I also think the cage and its connotations doesnt help but not much can be done about that.

    Ah I wish Pride was still the dominant MMA company.
    They all train "UFC" and have that mindset that training "UFC" makes them tough. It's called MMA for a reason, you need to study and focus on the individual aspects of each different martial art. That way you respect multiple disciplines. Not just try to through everything together to make a tough guy tapout fighter.
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    Originally Posted by Serenadium View Post
    I agree UFC attract trash in general, I thought the Rio crowd made your typical white trash at American events look like choir boys so its not just limited to whites but the general people attracted as a whole.

    UFC could use some professionalism to quell the trashy image imo, getting rid of the silly gladiator theme was a good start, now to remove the crappy metalcore music and a president that actually tries to act like one. I also think the cage and its connotations doesnt help but not much can be done about that.

    Ah I wish Pride was still the dominant MMA company.
    Yes Pride, which was literally run by the Yakuza, is a much better representative for the sport
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    this thread is so true. i have 2 friends that are just like that. one is covered in tattoos and always wear tapout, the other is a drunken alcoholic smoker. everytime we're out, they pick a fight. i got so fed up with it, i stopped talking to them.
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