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    Originally Posted by carnage1985 View Post
    Heavy lifting is back!

    How was the grip strength on the dead brah?

    Did you ask Kade how his jaw was lol?
    You should get info on current AFL weights programs off him!!!
    Yeah seeing how it goes, low volume, high weight

    No I forgot to mention that one

    Yeah I asked him before but he mentioned that he does a different program to most of them..

    I learnt a couple of good ones on the weekend from PT's I asked...

    Twisting lunges
    Exactly how they sound

    Burpees with dumbell deads on the way up

    Burpees with with a pullup at the end of each one

    Bulgarian split squats



    I will know a lot more once Tony and I sit down for a chat about my new program, just making sure my shoulder is better before we do it
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    Definately all revolves around explosive power.

    The pound for pound power with minimal bodyfat.

    It's a fine line to train that specifically for 'amateur' footy.

    Might stick to weights for strength & use my cardio for power in a few months.
    I started my jump program but it co-incided with my attempt to bulk - now I have my cycle for bulk/cut & playing footy in order I will be having a proper crack at the vert jump program along with short sprints.

    How good would it be to play AFL - fulltime conditioning / recovery.
    So jelly of professional sportsman lifestyle.
    Will give my future kids every oppurtunity to suceed!!
    inb4 overbearing dad lol
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    Originally Posted by carnage1985 View Post
    How good would it be to play AFL - fulltime conditioning / recovery.
    So jelly of professional sportsman lifestyle.
    Will give my future kids every oppurtunity to suceed!!
    inb4 overbearing dad lol
    No joke, it would be so good. Those boys have the life.
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    Originally Posted by carnage1985 View Post

    It's a fine line to train that specifically for 'amateur' footy.

    So jelly of professional sportsman lifestyle.

    Yeah true....it's a lot more physical than in the AFL as far as biffo goes (skills aren't as clean and a lot more ball on the ground)

    Which is why I want to keep some of my size!

    So jelly also!!!


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    Were you doing the split squats with weights or? jelly as I can't do them yet, in a few weeks! In the meantime..don't get a better ass then me or there will be problems.
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    solids stuff... glad you liked the bss...
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    @ pervy: good stuff man

    @Ozfit: hahah ur ass is safe im fat remember

    I used weight for the last few sets, but you don't need much at all, especially when just learning the movement...

    Can't wait to do them again on Sunday

    @scott: thanks dude, slowly getting better and rehabbing exercises twice a day!

    14-9-12

    Deep Hack squats ss seat calf raise
    5 x 60 ss 15 x 20
    5 x 70 ss 15 x 20
    5 x 70 ss 15 x 20
    5 x 70 ss 15 x 20
    5 x 80 ss 15 x 20

    Glute ham raise ss 30" box jumps
    12 ss 12
    12 ss 12
    12 ss 12
    12 ss 10 (added 1" to the box)

    SL Kettlebell Romanians
    10 x 10
    10 x 10
    10 x 12
    10 x 12

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    Great session! A mix of heavy stuff with hacks and then explosive for the rest of the session..
    The Romanians were awesome for balance and I think I will be keeping them in my routine for football reasons..

    Box jumps were easy and I need a higher box now..(or just add more plates)

    Smashing the Glute hams aswell..will start puttin my hands on my head or more resistance!
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    looking good... i cant stand doing single leg stuff like that...
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    Originally Posted by scott_donald View Post
    looking good... i cant stand doing single leg stuff like that...
    It's great for balance man!

    Thanks
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    With the box jumps if you added weight woud you use DB or plate?
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    Originally Posted by carnage1985 View Post
    With the box jumps if you added weight woud you use DB or plate?
    I wouldn't add weight at this stage, I'd try and jump higher I reakon...?

    I reakon I might try squat jumps in the next few weeks ay..especially on the hack squat machine
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    Deads
    5 x 140
    5 x 150
    2 x 160

    CG cable row
    15 x 100
    10 x 120
    8 x 140
    8 x 160
    10 x 140

    Seated DB curls ss Standing Pull Downs
    10 x 10 ss 10 x 35
    10 x 12.5 ss 10 x 35
    10 x 12.5 ss 10 x 35
    10 x 12.5 ss 10 x 35

    Rack Pulls
    10 x 100
    10 x 140
    8 x 170
    8 x 180

    Hypers ss bb reverse curls
    15
    12 ss 10 x 25
    12 ss 10 x 25

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    Was going to just do stiff leg dead lifts but during the warmup I got a bit ancy for regular deads...

    And I absolutely smashed them..last week I was happy to get 1 x 150 (knew I had a bit more in the tank) but to get 5 is great..

    The 160 also flew up! If I used my straps I could've got 160 x 5 easy...

    First time doing rack pulls too..I did them above the knee (just) an they felt good..

    Upper back is still super pumped 2 hours later!


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    Sprinting and agility work

    1.2km fast jog down to track
    2 minute warmup

    Figure 8 agility drill (4 cones in a square and running around them in a pattern):

    5 reps with 15 second break in between runs
    Rest 2 mins
    5 reps with 15 second break in between runs
    Rest 2 mins
    5 reps with 15 second break in between runs

    Sprinting randomly
    500m of random whatever I felt like til I was finished..

    10 minute walk home

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    Nice session to finish off the day..I'm fairly buggered now, had a nice big dinner and nutrition was spot on today. No cheating which is great..

    As long as i have my meals prepared and it's things I like to eat then I'm fine and no cheating happens!!
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    witht he agility i would do them full recovery to get the benefit of motor control then later maybe do them for fatigue and motor control....

    looking good lately... deload week for me and bored silly right now on lunch break but needed the break...
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    Originally Posted by scott_donald View Post
    witht he agility i would do them full recovery to get the benefit of motor control then later maybe do them for fatigue and motor control....

    looking good lately... deload week for me and bored silly right now on lunch break but needed the break...
    Ahh ok, i understand...

    So maybe do 10 sprints with agility work (est recovery 1 minute) so all up that may take 12-15 mins..

    Then do some fatigue stuff later on?

    Thanks man, I'm trying to mix it up but it's difficult with this shoulder...once it's better I will smash it so hard! 200kg deadlifts easy comin up man!

    Haha deloads suck...I don't take enough of them..although I just had a week off weights so it's all good!

    How was ur weekend??
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    Originally Posted by TheProgressiveOne View Post
    Ahh ok, i understand...

    So maybe do 10 sprints with agility work (est recovery 1 minute) so all up that may take 12-15 mins..

    Then do some fatigue stuff later on?

    Thanks man, I'm trying to mix it up but it's difficult with this shoulder...once it's better I will smash it so hard! 200kg deadlifts easy comin up man!

    Haha deloads suck...I don't take enough of them..although I just had a week off weights so it's all good!

    How was ur weekend??
    weeked n was good but severe lack of sleep!!! golf nights out but my under 16 team lost to a better team so lots to work on with them...

    yep... think of things as -

    agility work full recovery

    acceleration work full recovery

    top speed work full recovery

    speed endurance limited recovery
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    With my football I will always be on the move and need a lot of endurance....

    However i want to be really quick over 20m....

    Can i haz both?
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    Originally Posted by TheProgressiveOne View Post
    With my football I will always be on the move and need a lot of endurance....

    However i want to be really quick over 20m....

    Can i haz both?
    easy...
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    easy...
    What's the best way to build endurance then? I'm going to do a lot of interval running stuff, my mate, Carnage, recommended it..
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    Originally Posted by TheProgressiveOne View Post
    What's the best way to build endurance then? I'm going to do a lot of interval running stuff, my mate, Carnage, recommended it..
    do you not read my running sessions???
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    Originally Posted by scott_donald View Post
    do you not read my running sessions???
    Of course I do.

    You're an advanced athlete and I have no idea what your goals are..........

    Yo also don't provide explanations on why you do certain things or what the benefits of them are
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    Originally Posted by TheProgressiveOne View Post
    Of course I do.

    You're an advanced athlete and I have no idea what your goals are..........

    Yo also don't provide explanations on why you do certain things or what the benefits of them are
    OK - start back at work soon so this will be fast -

    speed work is cns intensive

    Agility work is motor intenive - learning motions to make automatic

    in a 5 day week -

    speed endurance
    top speed
    speed endurance
    acceleration/agility
    speed endurance

    now that is just an example... with speed endurance as priority... personally get the heavy leg work done on the 100% effort days so allow recovery with the speed endurance sessions...
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    Originally Posted by scott_donald View Post
    OK - start back at work soon so this will be fast -

    speed work is cns intensive

    Agility work is motor intenive - learning motions to make automatic

    in a 5 day week -

    speed endurance
    top speed
    speed endurance
    acceleration/agility
    speed endurance

    now that is just an example... with speed endurance as priority... personally get the heavy leg work done on the 100% effort days so allow recovery with the speed endurance sessions...
    Ahh I see.

    Can u help wit something with only 2-3 days a week running..?
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    hmmm

    so list the 5 in importance...
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    Originally Posted by scott_donald View Post
    hmmm

    so list the 5 in importance...
    1. Speed Endurance (need to play 4 x 25minute quarters)

    2. Agility (want to turn corners quickly)

    3. Top Speed (I'm not too bad at this part)


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    19-9-12

    twisting lunges ss close grip cable row
    20 ss 10 x 120
    20 ss 10 x 140
    50 ss 8 x 160
    20 x 10 ss 10 x 140
    20 x 10 ss 10 x 140

    Tricep push downs ss machine dips
    10 x 35 ss 10 x 60
    10 x 35 ss 10 x 60
    10 x 35 ss 10 x 60
    10 x 35 ss 8 x 60

    Bulgarian split squats ss db presses
    20 ss 15 x 10
    20 ss 20 x 10 (+left arm curls)
    20 ss 20 x 10 (+left arm curls)
    20 x 5 ss 20 x 10 (+left arm curls)


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    Feeling good and working some of the stabilizers by using lower weight (which I'm not used to)

    Triceps were pumped as fuark!!
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    Nice brah

    I need to google this Bulgarian split squats...
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    Nice brah

    I need to google this Bulgarian split squats...
    Yeah for sure brah they are the best....
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    Yeah for sure brah they are the best....
    Ahhh ok like a stationary lunge??
    Where do you feel it most?
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