Hypothetical situation - say my daily caloric maintenance is 2800 calories. I'm on a cut, so I should probably be eating around 2400 calories. Say I only eat about 1800 calories, but get all 200g of protein, and the rest of the calories are carbs and fat. I work out hard 3-4x/week - I shouldn't except to lose any muscle right? Just fat?
05-06-2012, 11:36 AM #1
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Hypothetically, if I get enough protein, will I lose muscle while on a cut?PSN: solidsnake2688
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05-06-2012, 11:52 AM #2
Keep in mind that LBM is more than just muscle, it is everything in your body but fat. For instance, I've been doing the same as you (200g protein, 1000kcal deficit, 3 hard workouts) for the past two weeks and have lost about 7 lbs. Although I should have only lost 4 lbs of fat due to my deficit, water loss contributes to other loss. When you reduce carbs, you lose water too, and when the cut is over I expect to gain a few pounds back in water.
Calipers are a decent way of tracking progress, but I really wouldn't worry about muscle loss unless you are prepping for a contest which is where muscle loss can occur (< 6% bf)Enjoy the pain of becoming, fall in love with that pain, and everything will work out.
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05-06-2012, 12:36 PM #3
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05-06-2012, 02:47 PM #4
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regardless of nutrition, if the deficit is too big, the weight is gotta come from somewhere other than fat. The body can only oxidize so much fat in a given time, this is why a moderate deficit is emphasized. It can also only make use of so much protein, think filling a gas tank up with 14 gallons, and putting another 100 gallons inside the trunk, it would just be a waste.There is always someone less fortunate, with real hunger, with real adversity, who made something of themselves. What is your excuse?
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Its not impossible I have the paperwork to show it. I did the hydrodunk tank when I was at 25% bodyfat to get my fat to muscle ratio in Jan. I got retrested last month and am down to 20% and didn't loose 1oz of muscle I was able to drop 30lbs all fat. I didn't gain any muscle I stayed at 177lbs of lean muscle mass but I didn't loose anything either. I ate around 2,300 calories a day and kept my protein about 300/400g.--
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05-06-2012, 04:45 PM #6
05-06-2012, 04:55 PM #7
Speaking from personal experience, you can minimize muscle loss tremendously by keeping your protein as your dominant macro, and by having low-volume, very high intensity lifting sessions. A great routine for this is wendlers 5/3/1, and that's what's working for me.
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As I understand it, at very low bodyfat numbers, you have to be more conservative with your deficit. A good rule of thumb for max deficit is your bodyfat in pounds X 31 (Lyle McDonald).
He's got a good writeup on deficits here: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...levels-qa.html
05-06-2012, 07:04 PM #9
Eat enough protein, don't go low carb > have great workouts attempting to lift HEAVY every session. You will lose muscle, however - it won't be significant if you lose weight slowly, and don't make the deficit too extreme.
Eating carbs will prevent muscle loss - your body will burn them for fuel before burning protein.
You're going to lose a bit of muscle and strength but you'll look a lot better. Good tradeoff.Trying to help out others by putting out some good accurate information, and of course learn more!
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