I am scared to take DMAA now... should I?

[ErwinFletcher]

No. Nobody should need that stuff to get pumped up for a workout. Caffeine, although a stimulant also, has been repeatedly tested and it's safety proven in moderation. The testing on DMAA is limited to my knowledge. Besides the safety concerns, I crashed and had stim dick with this crap. The usualy two side effects people talk about. Your body is telling you something, listen. Not for me but if you like it then enjoy it while you still can.

If you're going to plagiarize, you could at least show the courtesy of copying

[tden99]

There isn't a whole lot out there on 1,3 but you should google scholar 1,3 dimethylamylamine. You can see there is a guy in NZ who almost died using it as a party drug. However, the dosage is over 500mg which is 20scoops of jacked (BB.com won't sell anything over 25mg a serving). There is also a 10 person study I found and quite an extensive PDF from what I would presume to be the studies from the supplement companies because it specifically lists products. Nothing to indicate much of a problem. A bit of increased blood pressure for epi or norepi but no increased heart rate and these were the results from the 10 person study. I can't post links however because this is my first post. Just had to say something because I love the DMAA supps.

[RSPres]

I personally don't have a problem with DMAA in controlled doses as it is a powerful stimulant. However, like it or not, is going to be banned as we know it in the market place. What I've begun to do is look for alternatives. I have tried a few: 1-MR, Fast Fuel, Friction, Presurge, etc. Thus far I have liked Fast Fuel the best because it is the closest feeling I got to the 1,3 feel. In addition, it has the most complete nutritional profile with a full dose of BCAAs. I have been taking two scoops of Fast Fuel before every workout and it has been giving me the best results. Second to that I'd have to say 1-MR, which formerly had 1,3 but was reformulated. Any thoughts on the best pre-workouts without 1,3?

[Diesel0022]

I personally don't have a problem with DMAA in controlled doses as it is a powerful stimulant. However, like it or not, is going to be banned as we know it in the market place. What I've begun to do is look for alternatives. I have tried a few: 1-MR, Fast Fuel, Friction, Presurge, etc. Thus far I have liked Fast Fuel the best because it is the closest feeling I got to the 1,3 feel. In addition, it has the most complete nutritional profile with a full dose of BCAAs. I have been taking two scoops of Fast Fuel before every workout and it has been giving me the best results. Second to that I'd have to say 1-MR, which formerly had 1,3 but was reformulated. Any thoughts on the best pre-workouts without 1,3?

Focus XT, White Flood, Rage, Maximize

[powercage]

Focus XT, White Flood, Fierce, Maximize

Fixed

[neuron]

A bit of increased blood pressure...but no increased heart rate and these were the results from the 10 person study. I can't post links however because this is my first post. Just had to say something because I love the DMAA supps.

If I infuse a person with phenylephrine, their heart rate will decrease, so does this mean it's not "much of a problem?"

[Diesel0022]

Fixed

Not a fan of many pre's, fierce has worked its way off my personal list. Im more of a noot whore now.

Stole that guys stack^^

[powercage]

Not a fan of many pre's, fierce has worked its way off my personal list. Im more of a noot whore now.

Stole that guys stack^^

I do think that Focus XT should get a bit more love on the forums. At least for an every day pick me up

[Diesel0022]

I do think that Focus XT should get a bit more love on the forums. At least for an every day pick me up

Add a racetam and its quite enjoyable, or you can be like my gym buddy and just pop adderol pre workout lol

[misfit28]

No reason to be scared. Just take moderate amounts as listed on the label and everything should be fine. Those two soldiers probably overdosed on it.

^^^^This. Most people take things too far, and don't pay attention to labelling.

[Jdm9499]

Having a company like GNC defend this supp, while defying the FDA and keeping products with 1,3 on the shelves (at least in my local store in NYC, along with VitaminShoppe) is a good indication of its safety. It was also interesting to see VitaminShoppe's and GNC stock slightly rise after the FDA announced the crack down while both companies held their stance. That same day, when the FDA cited their ruling on the supplement, Amazon announced they were pulling the product, and their stock slightly dipped. Strange. I guess I would too be susspisious of the FDA cracking down on a product that has "potential" harmful side affects when abused, while other "legal" products available to 18+ folks kill hundreds of thousands of people, i.e cigarettes. Yet those are still "legal"....huh.

You can read the article, which I found compelling, of GNC's stance on 1,3 along with their independent studies and insight of FDA's crackdown, here - (I don't have 50 posts yet, so can't post a link in it's entirety) http : //bit.ly/IrcU4A

Thoughts?

[bassplaya1213]

Obviously he didn't. I'm trying to help the populace use their heads, one idiot at a time. Use this amazing thing called Google and there you would find 100 other threads on DMAA in this forum alone. This thread never would have had to be made, and OP wouldn't look dumb. There's no reason for people to continuously post Creatine Threads, but they do. I'm trying to educate people. Teach them to build a fire instead of just making it for them.

Now how does that make you feel?

You could have answered the question by the time you typed all this out. Next time should probably just shut up

[Diesel0022]

You could have answered the question by the time you typed all this out. Next time should probably just shut up

Starting reps: 3
Ending: TBD