been on defect and gaining muscle

[jassimo]

Ok so all i read is
"have to be in a calorie surplus to put on even a gram on muscle" and now its annoying me.

I starting lifting 3-4 times a week at my local gym for the last 2 months....i have been on a 800-1000 defect also.....ive gone from 175lbs to 155 lbs. My biceps are 1/2 inch bigger and my chest looks bigger than ever.
So i am gaining muscle on a defect and quite a large one.....someone prove me you cant gain muscle on a defect ty.

[Dionkey]

Ok so all i read is
"have to be in a calorie surplus to put on even a gram on muscle" and now its annoying me.

I starting lifting 3-4 times a week at my local gym for the last 2 months....i have been on a 800-1000 defect also.....ive gone from 175lbs to 155 lbs. My biceps are 1/2 inch bigger and my chest looks bigger than ever.
So i am gaining muscle on a defect and quite a large one.....someone prove me you cant gain muscle on a defect ty.

Sounds like your muscle definition is just becoming more visible. It's certainly not impossible, but extremely unlikely and would be risky to attempt on what is most likely a fluke.

[in10city]

"have to be in a calorie surplus to put on even a gram on muscle" is bull****, especially for nooblets like youself. It does become more challenging for advanced athletes to do so and can be like watching grass grow in a drought.

[jassimo]

I just want this trend of bs **** to stop on here people saying surplus surplus!!! giving bad info.
"im bulking" bad excuse for people to endulge in a piece of cake and some ice cream to get into that surplus at the end of the day.
ill stay with my oats, brown rice, vegatables, chicken brest, salmon and abit of peanut butter now and again....and wont touch sugar...stay on my defect and build muscle tyvm.

[WonderPug]

and wont touch sugar..

Yes, eating fruit will destroy your diet.

[cyclist93]

Same here! I have packed on (visibly) a lot of muscle and have recorded multiple inches in growth in my arms, forearms, calfs and decrease in waist.... I have been consuming 1500 cal everyday for the past month and a half.... All I know that it is working for me , obviously so I keep doing it.

[musikguy72]

Noobs who have only been lifting for 2 months can easily gain muscles while losing fat. That train doesn't ride long though. Then guess who's gonna be bulking?

[SwiftyX]

Nice subjective measuring methods. How you look and a measurement within the error factor are rock solid.

[djsaad1]

You have been lifting for two months, your obviously going to gain muscle. Bulks are for people that have been lifting a while and have reached their genetic muscle peak.

[CalebRM]

Ummmm...its called noob gains? cmon bro


You honestly have a lot to learn. And if you've noticed anyone above 190lbs and somewhat muscular wont be saying what you are saying.

Not that I believe in the whole "bulking thing"(unless on the tech) but you still need more calories than what you are consuming to even maintain my physique.

[AlwaysTryin]

Being lean and defined makes you appear larger

[yepimonfire]

noobs gain plenty of muscle on a deficit, intermediate lifters may gain small amounts, but at an extremely slow rate not even worth measuring.

to gain enough muscle to make it worthwhile, and in a reasonable time frame, YOU MUST BE IN A SURPLUS. not only that, but being in a deficit, especially or extended periods of time screws with your hormones making it hard to gain anything. cortisol goes up, testosterone and other anabolic hormones go down. cortisol increase is a natural stress response, reducing glucose uptake of skeletal muscle as well as amino acid uptake and protein synthesis being reduced. protein synthesis is metabolically expensive, so without the extra fuel needed to do it, it's not going to go much farther beyond repairing damage inflicted to skeletal muscle, and there certainly won't be the over-compensation that builds muscle going on.