iSatori - "Natural Sustained-Release Caffeine" and other BS ingredients

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Lately, I've been noticing many iSatori threads and how great their R&D is. Well, I never bothered looking into an iSatori product... and now I understand why.

For starters, does anyone from the iSatori clan want to explain to me what "Natural Sustained-Release Caffeine" is?

Secondly, could you explain how you managed to get "Natural Sustained-Release Caffeine" in an aqueous solution?

Also, I was hoping the R&D team could explain the presence of such ineffective compounds such as 7-Methoxyflavone, arginine, gugglesterones, ect. Thanx in advance.

[Valhallabound86]

Inn.

[BigBoLuke93]

This gon be gud

[WarEeyore]

in on NO RESPONSE to NO HYPE

edit: saw orig thread, spice potential building

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[reverse79]

listen NO Hype

if it states it on the label...it must be true

[sloop]

I think in this situation, iSatori reps are waiting for NO HYPE to explain "Natural Sustained-Release Caffeine" to them, not the other way around...

[justfive]

inb4 information can not be disclosed due to national security concerns

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I think in this situation, iSatori reps are waiting for NO HYPE to explain "Natural Sustained-Release Caffeine" to them, not the other way around...

lol

brb.... thinking of a question I already have the answer to.

[rob112]

Enteric coated microscopic particles bro

[ebbers91]

in, the supp section is entertaining this morning..

[Diesel0022]

First rule of no hype, you dont argue with no hype.

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First rule of no hype, you dont argue with no hype.

I lol'ed.... then I lol'ed again.

Just like I did when I looked at iSatori's product page.

[PaintPir]

I lol'ed.... then I lol'ed again.

Just like I did when I looked at iSatori's product page.

Did you e-mail customer service for copies of research like the rep told you to?

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Did you e-mail customer service for copies of research like the rep told you to?

lol

[PuZo]

I think it's better if you explain the 2mg of Citrulline Malate being boosted by a special process in which it'll make it much more effective and bio-available.(Not iSatori related)

[deejelkins]

Innnn

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Tribulus terrestris extract (60% total saponins/20% protodioscin), epimedium sagittatum and brevivomum extract (standardized for 20% icariin), 7-methoxyflavone, TestoFen� (fenugreek extract, standardized for 50% fenuside and saponins), nettle extract (standardized for DiVaniilyl Tetrahydrofuran), yohimbine HCl

Fruitex B (calcium fructoborate 5%), resveratrol 98%, calcium d-glucarate, turkesterone 2% (from ajuga turkestanica), hesperitin

SUB-TEST� Proprietary Formula - 280 mg

[NO HYPE]

I think it's better if you explain the 2mg of Citrulline Malate being boosted by a special process in which it'll make it much more effective and bio-available.(Not iSatori related)

Unaware. Link?

[Hyruliangoat]

ill admit I liked their pre workout lol

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ill admit I liked their pre workout lol

Wonder if it was the "Natural Sustained-Release Caffeine"?

Still though, I'm not going to give them credit just because their stimulant product works. They boasted about their R&D, and have little to back their notion [and in just this particular case e.g. aqueous sustained release caffeine, they have zero evidence to back up their claims].

[TheGilmore]

iSatori is one of 4 companies I know that researches and backs up their products with science.

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iSatori is one of 4 companies I know that researches and backs up their products with science.

Say it 3 times while clicking your heels together.

[Anthony21]

Where's that retarded elderly contracted blogger of theirs when you need him BAAHHAHAHA

[PaintPir]

Seems like turning that annoying shill into a "contractred blogger " is backfiring on them

edit: mind reader^^^^^^^^

[MasterBench]

Hey OP hows it going?
I'll try and help answer your questions first caffeine can be bound in an aqueous solution using tetracationic peptide � porphyrin conjugates Zn-1 (not exactly sure what that means to be honest) I just know that it is possible to create an aqueous solution with caffeine. Can't say that is exactly what iSatori uses, because's the chemical make up on that level was not given too me but i doubt many would really know that about their product without looking into it.

Natural caffeine vs synthetic is simply describing the source. Natural caffeine comes from coffee/tea etc, synthetic is created in a lab soley as caffeine. I suppose its just preference where you get it from, seems easier and more cost efficient to extract it from a coffee or tea source IMO but don't quote me on that.

In terms of why we use certain ingrediants, well the supplement industry is an evolving field. 1 minute every loves this ingredient, the next its bogus. There are tons of info published each day that supports or debunks claims, the industry doesn't really have a large governing body that requires vary stages of approval for efficiency, efficacy etc like the pharmaceutical industry. Now we can't just drop a product the second the industry shifts and doesn't favor one product, and just because a few ingredients might not be as favorable anymore doesn't mean the product isn't effective. I doubt their are many companies who have been around for 10+ years that hasn't made a product that wasn't 100% perfect.

I don't design the products but I have tried many and I enjoy all of them. Specifically I think Restoraid is one of the top Intra workout products on the market, Eat Smart Bars are delicious, and Hardcore energize is an awesome focus tool for studying/working out.

[PuZo]

Unaware. Link?

not sure if srs....

AKG™ Amplifying Matrix
di-calcium phosphate, L-Citrulline, Rutacarpine, Vanadyl Sulfate & Chromium 2mg

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caffeine can be bound in an aqueous solution using tetracationic peptide � porphyrin conjugates Zn-1 (not exactly sure what that means to be honest) I just know that it is possible to create an aqueous solution with caffeine.

Yeah, caffeine in aqueous solution is old news. Here is where I need an explanation ....

Sustained-Release caffeine in aqueous solution.

[MasterBench]

Yeah, caffeine in aqueous solution is old news. Here is where I need an explanation ....

Sustained-Release caffeine in aqueous solution.

Sustained release caffeine can be made by placing it in a capsule that does not get destroyed in an aqueous environment immediately, rather swells and remains intact.

http://books.google.com/books?id=cwb...X2.5-3&f=false

[Valenzuelatech]

One day I'd like to open up a coffee shop with a menu that reads like a supplement fact sheet:

Today's Special: Natural Sustained-Release Caffeine in an Aqueous Solution infused with Calcium Phosphate bonded Whey & Casein Peptides in a Colloidal Suspension