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    Exclamation For those that know, How much mass can an IFBB pro hope to mantain...

    When they come off the......, you know.

    Its those Victor pics from today that got me wondering. I mean wtf.

    For example, do you think Arnie was natty in his movie days? Is that ammount of mass retainable? Kinda makes me feel **** for those guys. It takes so much work to get there but can get lost so easily :/
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    i can only assume but i would imagine some depends on if they keep training an eating or just stop lifting all together. either way i would bet a lot would be lost but how much i dunno
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    Vic was in jail for 7 months. We have no idea how (or if) he was lifting and how he was eating.

    Also, consider that he probably didn't have time/resources to return his body to a state of homeostasis so close to a contest (right after the Arnold Euro).
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    Inb4 Vic was lifting and jail-bro-dieting 24/7 for 7 months and is shredded to the bone under that hoody.

    Probably not, though.
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    considering he was not eating lots of protein and enough calories to 'maintain' his size with no access to weights, he would lose size definitely...also, take note muscle tissue is around 75 % water.

    brb unhealthy foods all day err day
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    Depends on your genetics too... he said that he wasnt lifting and the food was crappy


    In 7 months, I think I could lose around 40 lbs and I'm just a 175lb stick (was 120lb when I started lifting)
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    I mean, even with a healthy diet, excercise, legal supplements etc, is it still possible to stay huge?
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    more than likely a pro is actually going to gain muscle mass by going off the stuff. Ronnie Coleman was natural and look how huge he was. I believe steroids etc are actually haulting bbers muscle progression....
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    Just out of curiosity......how long would it take for his rocky mountain oysters to rebound w/o his post celltech amino acids ?
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    The thing that always shocks me without fail is when you see a Pro who's stopped lifting for any reason, just how f*cking small they get. They don't even look like big natty's anymore.

    A good example is Mustafa Mohammed or Daz Ball.
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    is Kevin Levrone a good example?
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    I asked my friend Barry who smokes the green wacky backy sticky icky and he said 7lb.

    hope that answers your question op

    Also Barry challenges you to a marble dual fight and he's serious. You basically throw marbles at eachother until one of you fall and bleed to death.
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    They will lose most muscle, but keep a good amount that they will still look bigger than most of us lol
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    Originally Posted by babyox1 View Post
    They will lose most muscle, but keep a good amount that they will still look bigger than most of us lol
    Barry says no.

    He is 270lb, 274lb if he ate at Sizzlers.

    He also says he once lost 9lb from having violent diarrhea after he ate a pie from the Servo down in cavill street, btw they have a good deal on atm for redbull.

    Barry says he prefers Mother but I think he's a silly goober who has mother issues and then he told me when he was a baby sucking on his mothers tit she dropped him and maybe thats why he has mother issues. I personally clearly think that is the reason he loves mother energy drink.
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    Barry sounds like one fun guy.
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    Originally Posted by tsiparlanaeht View Post
    Barry says no.

    He is 270lb, 274lb if he ate at Sizzlers.

    He also says he once lost 9lb from having violent diarrhea after he ate a pie from the Servo down in cavill street, btw they have a good deal on atm for redbull.

    Barry says he prefers Mother but I think he's a silly goober who has mother issues and then he told me when he was a baby sucking on his mothers tit she dropped him and maybe thats why he has mother issues. I personally clearly think that is the reason he loves mother energy drink.
    Kids' shows these days

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    Vic was in jail for 7 months. During this time he ate pitiful amounts of food that would hardly feed your average skinny adult male, he didn't workout at all or have access to any equipment and he had no extra drugs. He probably spent nearly all day inside reading and the only access to drugs he had was TRT dosage test from a script.

    If you're talking about an IFBB pro who wasn't in jail, yes, they will maintain A LOT of their mass. Lol @ people who think losing muscle is this easy if you're not in jail.
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    thats just bull**** the reason he went to jail. Should get the judge who made the sentense and let him 1 week without any food! only water! bastard!
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    Originally Posted by SamTek View Post
    Vic was in jail for 7 months. During this time he ate pitiful amounts of food that would hardly feed your average skinny adult male, he didn't workout at all or have access to any equipment and he had no extra drugs. He probably spent nearly all day inside reading and the only access to drugs he had was TRT dosage test from a script.

    If you're talking about an IFBB pro who wasn't in jail, yes, they will maintain A LOT of their mass. Lol @ people who think losing muscle is this easy if you're not in jail.
    Its crazy too, cause over here in the uk, there is loads of anadrol going about the jails, and you get upto a few hours gym time each day and can but protein cor dirt cheap off your "wages". Most guys come out bigger if anything.
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    Originally Posted by kingnino View Post
    thats just bull**** the reason he went to jail. Should get the judge who made the sentense and let him 1 week without any food! only water! bastard!
    The judge should be punished for enforcing the law?
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    Originally Posted by orderoutofchaos View Post
    more than likely a pro is actually going to gain muscle mass by going off the stuff. Ronnie Coleman was natural and look how huge he was. I believe steroids etc are actually haulting bbers muscle progression....
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    Originally Posted by FunkymonkAW View Post
    The judge should be punished for enforcing the law?
    The judge for sure could have made a much lighter sentence if he wanted to.
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    Anyone who radically changes their diet and exercise habits is gonna experience radical changes in body composition. If I stopped eating like I eat now and had to eat crap in small amounts 3 times a day and stopped training like I train now (I'm assuming Vic didn't have access to weights), I'd be willing to bet I'd lose at least 10-15lbs in only 2 months. I don't even wanna know what I'd look like in 7 months if all I did was sit and rot in a cell.
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    Originally Posted by orderoutofchaos View Post
    more than likely a pro is actually going to gain muscle mass by going off the stuff. Ronnie Coleman was natural and look how huge he was. I believe steroids etc are actually haulting bbers muscle progression....
    Trolololol.

    Anyway, it depends on their height and genetics, but just take a look at the former pros who were 260lbs and are now off the sauce and 160lbs soaking wet. Should give you a good idea.
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    Originally Posted by orderoutofchaos View Post
    more than likely a pro is actually going to gain muscle mass by going off the stuff. Ronnie Coleman was natural and look how huge he was. I believe steroids etc are actually haulting bbers muscle progression....
    I'm sorry... What?
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    Originally Posted by PEETcassidy View Post
    Its crazy too, cause over here in the uk, there is loads of anadrol going about the jails, and you get upto a few hours gym time each day and can but protein cor dirt cheap off your "wages". Most guys come out bigger if anything.
    I've heard such things too but apparently it must not work like that in every jail.
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    Excerpts from Victor Interviews:

    RH: What kind of equipment do you have access to?

    VM: Nothing except a chin-up bar. No weights at all. There are only so many chin-ups, push-ups and crunches you can do before it gets redundant. I'm trying not to atrophy too much, but at the same time I can't worry too much about it either.

    RH: How's the food?

    VM: Mostly slop. They feed you enough to keep you alive. There's stuff that looks like tuna, but it's not tuna. Stuff that looks like bologna or turkey, but it's not. A lot of “mystery meat.” They do give you tons of bread, but it's all white bread. No wheat or whole-grain in here! We can't have supplements either, or else I would be having my MHP shakes and pudding every day. I could hold my weight if I ate all the carbs and sugar, but I don't want to put fat on. The commissary here makes big bucks selling candy to the inmates. There are guys walking out of here with three or four cavities and diabetes! No thanks. I'll lose a little muscle instead.

    RH: How does Hudson County compare with Rikers Island, where you were for 60 days a few years ago?

    VM: It's all the same. Jail is jail. You got guys in here doing federal time and others doing state time. At least at Rikers some of the corrections officers let me work out in their gym and got me some extra food. Working out would really help me mentally right now, but it's not an option.

    MD: I hate to ask you this, but a ton of people on the MD boards have been speculating and wondering what you weigh now. Do you even know? Do you have access to a scale?

    VM: No, but I don’t need a scale. I feel about 230, and I know my body pretty well so that’s gotta be close. I came in here at about 265. I won’t lose any more weight, though. I’ve leveled off and this is where my body will stay.

    MD: Has the exercise situation improved? Do you have access to any weights at all?

    VM: Nope. Listen up, meatheads— don’t do anything in the state of New Jersey, ‘cus there ain’t no weights in their jails!
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    Originally Posted by Fenix266 View Post
    Excerpts from Victor Interviews:

    RH: What kind of equipment do you have access to?

    VM: Nothing except a chin-up bar. No weights at all. There are only so many chin-ups, push-ups and crunches you can do before it gets redundant. I'm trying not to atrophy too much, but at the same time I can't worry too much about it either.

    RH: How's the food?

    VM: Mostly slop. They feed you enough to keep you alive. There's stuff that looks like tuna, but it's not tuna. Stuff that looks like bologna or turkey, but it's not. A lot of “mystery meat.” They do give you tons of bread, but it's all white bread. No wheat or whole-grain in here! We can't have supplements either, or else I would be having my MHP shakes and pudding every day. I could hold my weight if I ate all the carbs and sugar, but I don't want to put fat on. The commissary here makes big bucks selling candy to the inmates. There are guys walking out of here with three or four cavities and diabetes! No thanks. I'll lose a little muscle instead.

    RH: How does Hudson County compare with Rikers Island, where you were for 60 days a few years ago?

    VM: It's all the same. Jail is jail. You got guys in here doing federal time and others doing state time. At least at Rikers some of the corrections officers let me work out in their gym and got me some extra food. Working out would really help me mentally right now, but it's not an option.

    MD: I hate to ask you this, but a ton of people on the MD boards have been speculating and wondering what you weigh now. Do you even know? Do you have access to a scale?

    VM: No, but I don’t need a scale. I feel about 230, and I know my body pretty well so that’s gotta be close. I came in here at about 265. I won’t lose any more weight, though. I’ve leveled off and this is where my body will stay.

    MD: Has the exercise situation improved? Do you have access to any weights at all?

    VM: Nope. Listen up, meatheads— don’t do anything in the state of New Jersey, ‘cus there ain’t no weights in their jails!
    Thats gay as fukk. It would be a kick in the balls even for me not to be able to work out, and im not ****. To take away a mans living and regress his career in such a way is just pathetic. Glad he's out, cant wait to see him get huge again.
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    I wonder what that is...
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