Has Phil Heath surpassed Levrone yet?

[Lindoras]

I beg to disagree but Ronnie is clearly owning Flex in size department

brb bigger chest and thighs.

Yes. Ronnie IS bigger. However I feel that shouldn't be the deciding factor if you win the O or not. Else Markus Ruhl would've won a few.
It's just that Flex's physique was more appealing to me and that's why in MY opinion he should've won.
But let's end the discussion here. No use in wasting time trying to convince eachother who was better.

[bonercoaster]

well thats exactly the point, it shows that you have the best physique on that given DAY, and no frank zane doesnt even beat todays 10th place finish

Lol Frank Zane wouldn't even be a pro today.

[luckynumber13as]

Lol Frank Zane wouldn't even be a pro today.

What about as a 212 competitor?

[the-craig]

Yes. Ronnie IS bigger. However I feel that shouldn't be the deciding factor if you win the O or not. Else Markus Ruhl would've won a few.
It's just that Flex's physique was more appealing to me and that's why in MY opinion he should've won.
But let's end the discussion here. No use in wasting time trying to convince eachother who was better.

It's not the only deciding factor, Ronnie was bigger, more conditioned, wasn't full of oil and has better shape in some muscle bellies. It's that simple.

[Lindoras]

It's not the only deciding factor, Ronnie was bigger, more conditioned, wasn't full of oil and has better shape in some muscle bellies. It's that simple.

Such a grown up when I clearly stated I ended the discussion but you had the have the last word.

[luckynumber13as]

Such a grown up when I clearly stated I ended the discussion but you had the have the last word.

Now now children...

[yaldish]

I beg to disagree but Ronnie is clearly owning Flex in size department

brb bigger chest and thighs.

If bodybuilding was about standing relaxed waiting for money, but it's not. Either way, Ronnie was the winner, he was far more detailed than Flex. I don't quite get it when people say that Flex should've won because he has a more "beautiful" physique, mass should be rewarded also.



This is a great example of how much more detailed Ronnie was, especially arms

[AnarkyLost]

Flex's glutes look like they are carrying alot of watter. Ronnie was shredded everywhere.




back to the thread...

Kevin's back double bicep is laughable compared to Phils

[x-trainer ben]

You all remind me of the fellas in the barbershop arguing about whether Bill Russel was better than Wilt Chamberlain or Mohamed Ali was better than Mike Tyson. Unless you put 2 guys on stage next to each other you know we can't really say. Kevins career was at least 10 years and Phils is just starting, so do we compare Kevin in year 1,3,5,7, 9 to current Phil? See where i am going, you cant compare just yet. Ok, you can but it is a silly idea

[TheMullah]

This is like the Dorian Nasser and Kevin thread a few days ago. Heath destroys Kevin from the rear poses, just like Yates did to his peers.

Kevin only has phil on triceps, smaller gut and being broader IMO, so it's not even close, and I am a bigger fan of levrone than Heath.

[AnarkyLost]

You all remind me of the fellas in the barbershop arguing about whether Bill Russel was better than Wilt Chamberlain or Mohamed Ali was better than Mike Tyson. Unless you put 2 guys on stage next to each other you know we can't really say. Kevins career was at least 10 years and Phils is just starting, so do we compare Kevin in year 1,3,5,7, 9 to current Phil? See where i am going, you cant compare just yet. Ok, you can but it is a silly idea

Seeing how Kevin looked his best in his earlier years.....later on his back and legs got weaker.

[the-craig]

Such a grown up when I clearly stated I ended the discussion but you had the have the last word.

If you think saying "end of discussion" will actually end a discussion on any form you're insane. I'm throwing my opinion in the mix, is that against the rules?

[detrimental]

You all remind me of the fellas in the barbershop arguing about whether Bill Russel was better than Wilt Chamberlain or Mohamed Ali was better than Mike Tyson. Unless you put 2 guys on stage next to each other you know we can't really say. Kevins career was at least 10 years and Phils is just starting, so do we compare Kevin in year 1,3,5,7, 9 to current Phil? See where i am going, you cant compare just yet. Ok, you can but it is a silly idea

Basketball here... I HAVE to interject... Chamberlain and Russell faced each other all the time bro, lmao. In fact, Chamberlain pulled down his 55 rebound record against Bill.

[Lindoras]

If you think saying "end of discussion" will actually end a discussion on any form you're insane. I'm throwing my opinion in the mix, is that against the rules?

I'm just saying i cba with your opinion anymore as I won't be responding anymore tough guy.

[the-craig]

I'm just saying i cba with your opinion anymore as I won't be responding anymore tough guy.

Sorry, Chief, first comment by me and you get all mad. If putting my opinion forward makes me a tough guy then call me Rocky.

[JanesLastResort]

I'm just saying i cba with your opinion anymore as I won't be responding anymore tough guy.

So you can ramble on about what's YOUR opinion, but as soon as someone states their own you cba to listen to it? Way to act your age.

[ZBlacktt]

[Lindoras]

So you can ramble on about what's YOUR opinion, but as soon as someone states their own you cba to listen to it? Way to act your age.

Please don't jump in all of a sudden. 6 posts above I said I ended the discussion. I don't care if he rants on for 5 more pages. It means I won't be responding anymore. He can say all he want when he wants it. This is a forum, not north korea.

[AnarkyLost]

Please don't jump in all of a sudden. 6 posts above I said I ended the discussion. I don't care if he rants on for 5 more pages. It means I won't be responding anymore. He can say all he want when he wants it. This is a forum, not north korea.

Its true that an opinion can be wrong. That's my opinion of course so your opinion on the 99 Olympia is beyond wrong. Flex oil bags Wheeler for the win I think not lol.

[JanesLastResort]

Please don't jump in all of a sudden. 6 posts above I said I ended the discussion. I don't care if he rants on for 5 more pages. It means I won't be responding anymore. He can say all he want when he wants it. This is a forum, not north korea.

Lmao i can jump in whenever the f i want it's called public forum for a reason.

[Lindoras]

Lmao i can jump in whenever the f i want it's called public forum for a reason.

Hence the please in my sentence making it a question. Also stated you can say whatever you want. Thanks for repeating my exact points.

[Groggery]

You're allowed one derp per thread, they'll let you off the hook this time.

Or not as it seems

[the-craig]

Hence the please in my sentence making it a question. Also stated you can say whatever you want. Thanks for repeating my exact points.

So why were you being a bitch when I gave my opinion saying I'm a tough guy trying to get the last word? Damn, the hypocrisy.

[Lindoras]

So why were you being a bitch when I gave my opinion saying I'm a tough guy trying to get the last word? Damn, the hypocrisy.

Saying I won't respond to things you say anymore makes me a bitch. Ok.

[AnarkyLost]

Saying I won't respond to things you say anymore makes me a bitch. Ok.

Thats not what he said........

[Lindoras]

Thats not what he said........

Please scroll up the page and then post.

[AnarkyLost]

Please scroll up the page and then post.

"saying I'm a tough guy trying to get the last word?"

Why don't you no where does it say your a bitch for saying you weren't gonna respond anymore.

[Lindoras]

"saying I'm a tough guy trying to get the last word?"

Why don't you no where does it say your a bitch for saying you weren't gonna respond anymore.

Me talking against MesoPeaks Yes. Ronnie IS bigger. However I feel that shouldn't be the deciding factor if you win the O or not. Else Markus Ruhl would've won a few.
It's just that Flex's physique was more appealing to me and that's why in MY opinion he should've won.
But let's end the discussion here. No use in wasting time trying to convince eachother who was better.

The craig dude: It's not the only deciding factor, Ronnie was bigger, more conditioned, wasn't full of oil and has better shape in some muscle bellies. It's that simple.

Pointing out his view is the only correct one.

I already said I didn't want to continue on the subject so why should I bother talking with him anymore?

[MAX.MAREK]

I wasn't aware that Levrone won an Olympia....That alone should make Phil a better bodybuilder than Kevin.

how does that make phil a better bodybuilder just because he won a Mr.O title in a different time/place? n00b comment.

[AnarkyLost]

how does that make phil a better bodybuilder just because he won a Mr.O title in a different time/place? n00b comment.

This. If 10 Ronnie Colemans competed in the same show and then 9 retired the next year would the 9 who didn't win be worse then Heath?