shoulder pain

[matttm]

I have had pain in my right shoulder for three years, before I started working out; its like below my clavicle and I get another pain marked in this anatomical picture.

I tried going to an orthopedic, but my dad thinks im being a pussy. So ny recommendations on what to do.

green - 1st pain
pink - 2nd pain

[KBKB]

I tried going to an orthopedic...

What do you mean by this? Did you see a doctor or not?

If so, what did he (or she) say?

[matttm]

What do you mean by this? Did you see a doctor or not?

If so, what did he (or she) say?

i did not; people think im just being a bitch.

what do you think?

[KBKB]

i did not; people think im just being a bitch.

what do you think?

Having had shoulder pain myself, I tend to believe people when they say that their shoulders hurt. I know from personal experience that it can be tremendously debilitating.

The good news is that you might be able to fix it yourself via trigger point therapy. There are self massage techniques that can be used to massage out knots in the muscle (trigger points) which can refer paint to another location.

The resource that I've been recommending is a book called The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook.

There are several other threads in this forum about trigger point therapy. You might find it useful to read through this one even though it does not deal with the exact same problem that you're dealing with.

[matttm]

The good news is that you might be able to fix it yourself

What do you thinks going on?

I will try to get the book, but is there anything else I can do for now?Do you think i need to see a doctor?

[spankerdan]

Was there a particular event or injury that caused the pain?

[KBKB]

What do you thinks going on?

I will try to get the book, but is there anything else I can do for now? Do you think i need to see a doctor?

I don't know what's wrong. If the pain is severe or debilitating, you should see a doctor.

It is doubtful that one visit to your doctor will resolve the problem. If you get referred to a specialist, they will likely take X-rays and an MRI. If you are referred to a physical therapist (which, IMO, should be the preferred option) it is still unlikely to be resolved in one visit.

If you are willing to do some research and self massage, it is likely that you can fix it yourself. That book mentioned earlier is a good resource, but if you want to get started sooner, take a look at this site:

http://www.triggerpointproducts.com/checkyoursymptoms

Use it to find likely candidates for trigger points that could be referring pain to your shoulder. Feel around with your fingers and see if you can find any place corresponding to the exercises which is painful to the touch. If so, you've probably found a trigger point. Use a deep probing massage on each trigger point that you find.

Some trigger points will be at or near the site of the pain, but many will be some distance away from where you're feeling the pain. So massaging the top of your shoulder where you're feeling the pain will probably be ineffective. It's entirely likely that you'll need to work on other muscles in the area.

Again, you should search for spots that are painful when you push on them with your fingers. You will probably do better if you use either the book mentioned earlier or the website mentioned above to search for them. The book will tell you about massage techniques for difficult to reach trigger points such as those beneath the scapula.

[alexninja1]

probably just hurt your rotator cuff. make sure you take rest off ! ease up on your shoulder training as you dont want to screw up your shoulders.. get it checked out, it could possibly lead to surgery if your not carefull. look on youtube for some rotator cuff exercises to strengthen it. hope this helps!

[matttm]

probably just hurt your rotator cuff. make sure you take rest off ! ease up on your shoulder training as you dont want to screw up your shoulders.. get it checked out, it could possibly lead to surgery if your not carefull. look on youtube for some rotator cuff exercises to strengthen it. hope this helps!

i did do these, they help i think
Ive been doing them bout a week, how long should i be doing them for the pain to go away

@spankerdan: I think it started frrom my face being too close to monitor and posture at comp.

@KBKB: can trigger point fix the prob or just take away pain

[KBKB]

@spankerdan: I think it started frrom my face being too close to monitor and posture at comp.

@KBKB: can trigger point fix the prob or just take away pain

First off, I don't claim to know what the problem is. If it started with poor posture while working at the computer, you need to figure out how to change your position at the computer so that your posture is better.

If poor posture (or something else that you did in the course of living your life) stressed certain muscles and caused trigger points - which are nothing more than small knots in the muscle which keep the muscle under tension - then trigger points are the problem, or at least part of it. These knots can last for years. They can refer pain to some other part of the body, the shoulder area in your case. Due to the fact that they keep muscle under tension, they do not allow the muscle to fully relax and recover. If the resulting pain causes you to change the way you move your body, the unaccustomed stress to other muscles can create new knots (trigger points) in those muscles too. Those newly created trigger points will, in turn, cause more pain. There can be a cascade effect in which more and more of your body becomes afflicted with pain.

The author of the book that I mentioned earlier suffered from shoulder problems. He's put the first chapter of his book online in which he relates the story of his search for a fix for his shoulder issues. It is well worth reading.

I think it is likely that certain postural habits lead to unaccustomed muscle stress which in turn lead to the formation of trigger points in the muscles. If this is the case, you'll need to release the trigger points (massage out the knots) and adjust your posture. Strengthening muscles in the shoulder and back will help too.

[matttm]

I cant find points for where it hurts; it's between my pec and shoulder.

[KBKB]

I cant find points for where it hurts; it's between my pec and shoulder.

There's kind of a long list of muscles to check for trigger points for front of shoulder pain:

• infraspinatus
• anterior deltoid
• scalenes
• supraspinatus
• pectoralis major
• pectoralis minor
• subscapularis
• biceps
• latissimus dorsi
• coracobrachiallis
• subclavius
• brachialis

Remember, the trigger points responsible for your pain may be some distance away from where you feel the pain.

[ProtienandIron]

I've been living with debilitating shoulder pain all year. Get yourself to a specialist. I recommend a sports orientated chiropractor. People can only guess on here. Once you get a diagnosis its a lot easier to know what to do. 3 years is already too long.

Follow what KBKB says. Also, try this;

[spankerdan]

I've been living with debilitating shoulder pain all year. Get yourself to a specialist. I recommend a sports orientated chiropractor. People can only guess on here. Once you get a diagnosis its a lot easier to know what to do. 3 years is already too long.

Follow what KBKB says. Also, try this;

This - there is no point further injuring yourself... I have good mates who continued to play football / gym with bad shoulders and all have had to have surgery.

[qoohhlt]

The fastest way is ,go to a doctor and ask for a needle shot.
You may also conisder taking some pain relief pills , doing some easy stretch, massaging ur shoulder or rest.

[KBKB]

The fastest way is ,go to a doctor and ask for a needle shot.
You may also conisder taking some pain relief pills , doing some easy stretch, massaging ur shoulder or rest.

My doctor offered me a shot when I went to see her about my shoulder. I turned it down because I'd heard from multiple sources that it's not that good for you long term. Plus, it doesn't fix the problem. Likewise for pain pills.

Resting, stretching, and massage is good advice.

The exercises shown in that video posted by ProtienandIron are great too, but, in my opinion, will work better if used in conjunction with trigger point therapy.

[vnr]

Not sure if this will help OP. But I had similar (not quite the same) shoulder pain. Put me out the gym for 2 months and then for another 3 weeks a few months later. Basically it got fixed really simply by stretching out my chest once a day for a good 10-20 seconds (whether this helps, I doubt it, but it completely cured me). Basically I put both my hands behind my back and clasped them together and keeping my arms straight I lifted them up towards my head trying to keep my back straight. Like I said, it was my cure but I'm not too sure about what it will do for you. Best of luck.