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    for future reference when someone poses a side pic of a BDB showing a gut: IT'S HOW YOU DO THE POSE
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    Originally Posted by NaturalLoco View Post
    you can also make a case for arm development from the rear, he has a great brachilllis that just pops in the back double.. more width then Vic too, plus Wolf has made much improvement since the Olympia
    Vic clearly matches Wolf in width if not a little more in the BDB, Vic's biceps have a peak Wolfs doesn't.

    There is no contest for the better back. Vic matches Wolfs size while at the same time having a smaller frame and is symmetrical. Wolf loses.
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    wolf has one of the best front relaxed of all time. srs. it looks awesome.
    i think his placings are legit. he shouldn't be beating kai, phil, jay or even victor. from the back, his lower back down to the feet shouldn't even be at the olympia. that's almost 75% of his back shots missing.
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    Originally Posted by exezy View Post


    his flow isnt matched by anyone. I know the phil heath fan club is going to hate but dennis has so much muscle on his near perfect frame. Everything has a nice taper, he doesnt have that "bloated" muscle look like phil heath because dennis' body can handle the mass. I dont understand why he doesn't place higher. To be honest he got robbed at the arnold and got robbed out of placings at the o last year and probably will this year, anyone wanna explain?
    abs0lutely. The m0st underrated pr0 t0day. He sh0uld be mr 0.
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    Originally Posted by penile_dementia View Post
    wolf is awesome... But even cutler has superior flow at this point. Superior back shape aside, i'd put wolf's flow as very comparable to branch's. His physique is a bit of a mess, and usually a blotchily tanned one these days, but a kingly, stunning, widebodied one too.
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    Originally Posted by asbrus View Post
    abs0lutely. The m0st underrated pr0 t0day. He sh0uld be mr 0.
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    Originally Posted by TTimmerman View Post
    for future reference when someone poses a side pic of a BDB showing a gut: IT'S HOW YOU DO THE POSE
    I always tell people this lol. You're meant to push out your stomach, tightens your lower back up nicely.
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    Originally Posted by TTimmerman View Post
    for future reference when someone poses a side pic of a BDB showing a gut: IT'S HOW YOU DO THE POSE
    But....but.....but....aesthetics....must...look aesthetic AT ALL TIMES......but...but....but.....]

    Too true TT, end of the day a BDB is showing the BACK, who gives a fuk what the abs are doing. Stoopid noobs don't have a clue.
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    Originally Posted by KuRdiSh View Post
    I always tell people this lol. You're meant to push out your stomach, tightens your lower back up nicely.
    ^^^^And I also concur with this chap too.
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    Originally Posted by DavisForman View Post
    So his back has no imbalance and his arms are as good as Phil's and Kai's? That what you're saying?
    Wolf's arms are massive, he does not have arms as good as Heath (see recent thread where Heath has tripple split bis) but I do believe he is on par with Kai in arms.

    In back Wolf has more width than Heath and as DPNZ once quoted (not my opinion) 'Kia's back is like a big soft pillow' Kai lacks upper back, Wolf partially lacks lower back and Heath lacks some width which Kai and Wolf have an advantage. Wolf's imbalances are no worse than any other Mr Olympia.
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    Wolfs weak points are his arms and that other muscle group. He can never be a Mr olympia.
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    Originally Posted by DavisForman View Post
    So his back has no imbalance and his arms are as good as Phil's and Kai's? That what you're saying?
    Originally Posted by DavisForman View Post
    He wasn't robbed at last year's Olympia. He doesn't place better because he is riddled with flaws.

    Sure, he has a great structure, but this isn't skeleton building, it's bodybuilding.

    Wolf has no calves, poor arms, weak lower back and at times, a distracting lat imbalance.

    And I have no idea what you are talking about with Heath. Bloated? What are you looking at exactly?
    Your statement is full of emotion, lets stick to significant FACTS - the only bit you said that makes any sense is calves - YES wolf is carrying a small injury in one of his otherwise Coleman standard calves.
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    Originally Posted by PaLftr View Post
    The true Arnold winner right here.

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    Calves, yes, you're right.

    His arms however, are sick, and his back is sick. You're wrong there.
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    Originally Posted by wjs010 View Post
    Victor has a better physique than phil and Dennis. I'm dead serious. What a shame hes in prison
    I remeber when Ronnie said Victor would be the next Mr O, shame Vic has had too many distractions in life to allow him to realise his potential.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Wolfs weak points are his arms and that other muscle group. He can never be a Mr olympia.
    There was a time when Heath was too narrow to be a Mr O, Heath silenced any haters, Wolf is proving he is a contender, he destroyed Branch at the AC, even Cutler says Wolf's top 3 O. If Wolf can sort out his hams and apply some technology to his Calf he will rival Heath.
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    Originally Posted by TTimmerman View Post
    for future reference when someone poses a side pic of a BDB showing a gut: IT'S HOW YOU DO THE POSE
    Out of serious curiosity. Would the pose look bad if they held in the gut? Does it show more back definition if they relax their abs? I've been wondering this.
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    Originally Posted by asbrus View Post
    abs0lutely. The m0st underrated pr0 t0day. He sh0uld be mr 0.
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    l0l. W0lf has a tiny waist and is the biggest 0n stage. Y0u're nuts. Kay l00ks like a refrigirat0r.
    LOL you are actually ****ing retarded if you believe this but you're prolly trolling anyway, wolf has no ****ing calves at all, he is completely missing a body part, also his back just looks weird and is totally unbalanced because he has giant traps but his back tapers down sharply to underdeveloped lats. His legs are abysmal from the back also, weak glutes, hammies and no calves to speak of.
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    Originally Posted by ROMMYromboid View Post
    Wolf's arms are massive, he does not have arms as good as Heath (see recent thread where Heath has tripple split bis) but I do believe he is on par with Kai in arms.
    On par, LOL....I do believe YOU are on par with Davis Forman and asbrus as the biggest retard/troll on this forum. Kai's arms completely destroy wolf's, just look at wolf hitting a fdb next to Kai, Dennis has long flat biceps like Levrone, and Kai has huge peaked biceps like coleman and arnold. Also when Kai hits a side tricep or side chest he has a lot more detail and shape to his muscle, Dennis arms just are not round enough and have very poor shape. His arms are just genetically crap like Dorian's.
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    Originally Posted by Musc1eBound View Post
    Out of serious curiosity. Would the pose look bad if they held in the gut? Does it show more back definition if they relax their abs? I've been wondering this.
    pushing out your stomach/abs (even i have a serious gut then) during a BDB tightens up the lower back and waist. it wouldn't look bad if they held in their stomach but it's all in the small details that give an extra "oomph" during a pose
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    Originally Posted by TTimmerman View Post
    pushing out your stomach/abs (even i have a serious gut then) during a BDB tightens up the lower back and waist. it wouldn't look bad if they held in their stomach but it's all in the small details that give an extra "oomph" during a pose
    Ah. Thanks man.
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    abs0lutely. The m0st underrated pr0 t0day. He sh0uld be mr 0.

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    what the hells wrong with his calves, its like his inner gastrocnemius literally doesnt exist. theres simply nothing there. Is it torn? Ive seen other bodybuilders with torn calves and they look exactly like that, usually its only 1 calve though.

    if thats just how they normally are, he needs some serious oil in those things.
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    I do believe he is on par with Kai in arms.
    Well he's not.

    Kai has a better peak in his biceps and better separation in his triceps



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    but I do believe he is on par with Kai in arms.

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    Originally Posted by DavisForman View Post
    Well he's not.

    Kai has a better peak in his biceps and better separation in his triceps

    The difference is even more noticable from the front

    From the front Kai's arms look soft in comparison to Wolf's, Kai beats him on peak, Wolf's arms are more similar to Heaths and remember Dennis has made solid improvements that were shown at the AC. Wolf has world class arms by anyones standards. Compare kai's bi's to the other athletes and they look short and a bit hunched up and lacking fullness.



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    One of your strongest derps of all time.
    Remember Dennis has greatly improved his arm size since the old pictures above that Forman used. Your better to focus on the facts than derps.
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    Originally Posted by ROMMYromboid View Post
    Remember Dennis has greatly improved his arm size since the old pictures above that Forman used. Your better to focus on the facts than derps.
    No he hasn't.
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    No he hasn't.
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    The improvements Wolf has made post Olympia 2012 are mind blowing, Dennis is improving as fast as Phil Heath.
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