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    Are DMAA and Geranium the same thing?

    Hi there,

    I'm curious if DMAA and Geranium are the same thing, because I know I react negatively to DMAA (can't get it up after taking products like jack3d). More specifically, can somebody please look at the ingredients in NeuroCore (below) and tell me if anything here will give me the dreaded stim dick?

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    (As Geranium Robertianum) (Aerial Parts)
    Caffeine Anhydrous 110mg †
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    (As Rhodiola Rosea) (Root)
    Supplying Salidroside
    Deanol Bitartrate (Supplying DMAE) 17mg †
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    Yes DMAA is just one of the many nomenclatures for the active ingredient commonly used in geranium. 1 other very common you might find is 1,3-dimethylamylamine.
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    Try Novem. I usually use jacked, but got a great deal on Novem, and I like the taste a lot and energy wise it's great.
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    As stated before, Geranium/1,3 Dimethylamylamine/Methylhexanamine are all the same -- I'd suggest you try something like DS Craze as it's a combination of focus/stimulation and doesn't contain 1,3 dimeth coupled with a low amount of caffeine.
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    Originally Posted by Paulhal View Post
    As stated before, Geranium/1,3 Dimethylamylamine/Methylhexanamine are all the same -- I'd suggest you try something like DS Craze as it's a combination of focus/stimulation and doesn't contain 1,3 dimeth coupled with a low amount of caffeine.
    You know how much caffeine is in Craze?
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    Originally Posted by MA$$BUILDER View Post
    You know how much caffeine is in Craze?
    IIRC, the reps said around 80mg per scoop
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    Originally Posted by kfennessy View Post
    Are DMAA and Geranium the same thing?
    No.



    Originally Posted by Jonbero
    Yes DMAA is just one of the many nomenclatures for the active ingredient commonly used in geranium. 1 other very common you might find is 1,3-dimethylamylamine.
    Actually, DMAA & 1,3 are nomenclatures for 4-methylhexan-2-amine... which apparently, is [not] found in the geranium genus.
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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    No.





    Actually, DMAA & 1,3 are nomenclatures for 4-methylhexan-2-amine... which apparently, is [not] found in the geranium genus.
    Really? I always thought there was 1,3 in Geranium Extract
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    DMAA is a constituent of Geranium (although only one controversial study to date has actually found any DMAA in Geranium and the consensus seems to be that it is a chemical added to geranium products). It is also known as Geranamine (its patented name), 1,3 dimethylamylamine, 1,3 dimethylpentylamine, methylhyxamanime, forthane and others.

    The reason it gives you erectile problems is because it is a "vasoconstrictor" (it constricts blood vessels). So it is having the opposite effect to that of "NO" (nitric oxide) booster products and the opposite effect of the infamous Viagra. Pretty ironic that the world's best-selling pre-workout product contains a vasoconstrictor!?!? Specifically, the combination of DMAA and caffeine was shown to increase blood pressure by about 20 per cent (presumably the result of constricted blood vessels). The whole point of NO pre-workout products is supposed to be to widen blood vessels, thus increasing blood flow and nutrient deliver to the muscles and have all of the other benefits of boosting NO, like increased testosterone, IGF-1, better insulin function, increase muscle torque, increased muscle fiber growth etc.

    So if you are sensitive to DMAA, just go with a product that has caffeine and various ingredients that will increase your pump.

    Originally Posted by kfennessy View Post
    Hi there,

    I'm curious if DMAA and Geranium are the same thing, because I know I react negatively to DMAA (can't get it up after taking products like jack3d). More specifically, can somebody please look at the ingredients in NeuroCore (below) and tell me if anything here will give me the dreaded stim dick?

    Beta-Alanine 1,067mg †
    L-Citrulline 1,000mg †
    Creatine HCl 1,000mg †
    Geranium Extract 177mg †
    (As Geranium Robertianum) (Aerial Parts)
    Caffeine Anhydrous 110mg †
    Rhodiola Extract 33mg †
    (As Rhodiola Rosea) (Root)
    Supplying Salidroside
    Deanol Bitartrate (Supplying DMAE) 17mg †
    Vinpocetine 1.7mg †

    Other Ingredients:
    Natural And Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Elderberry Powder, Acesulfame-Potassium.
    Mark Gilbert B.Sc (Nutrition)
    Head of R & D, Grenade Ltd
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    Originally Posted by MarkGilbert View Post
    DMAA is a constituent of Geranium
    That's what the Ping et al. study originally concluded [apparently however, there was a mistranslation/identification issue with one of the chromatogram peaks].
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