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    I lost 20lbs of weight my first week of keto

    Just figured I'd share the weight roller coaster a fat guy goes through low carbing

    My first week back to keto I dropped from 327lbs to 312lbs in SIX DAYS. I carbed up and ballooned right back up to 327lbs, and now 5 days later I'm around 316lbs. The gain and loss of water weight is absolutely crazy. It definitely makes it hard to judge "real progress", but I'm hoping somewhere in those pounds at least a little bit of it was fat

    It's also done a number on my energy levels. I've been working out consistently for about 3 months again now, and on my second week of keto I'm a weak little bitch. All my lifts are plummeting.
    I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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    Weight yoursel consistently 1 day a week (same day every week following) first thing in the morning, before you consume ANYTHING!
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    Originally Posted by OliBrah View Post
    Weight yoursel consistently 1 day a week (same day every week following) first thing in the morning, before you consume ANYTHING!
    ^this
    and your lifts are decreasing due to glycogen depletion. i'd stick it out the rest of the week and maybe a few more days to see how you are then. then, carb up if you still feel weak
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    40-50 grams of carbs about 30 minutes prior to workout will replenish glycogen without kicking you out of keto and your lifts will be back to normal. It's called "targeted ketogenic diet" or TKD, and works very well.
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    and on my second week of keto I'm a weak little bitch.

    maybe cos you carbed up after just a week? you gotta go through the induction/adaption period
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    You'redoingitwrong...

    Dont carb up again for another 3 weeks, then you can carb up at the end of every week.
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    Originally Posted by DustyChicago View Post
    You'redoingitwrong...

    Dont carb up again for another 3 weeks, then you can carb up at the end of every week.
    ^^^

    Why'd you carb up so quick op
    Yes... I've started a log - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=159357321
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    blah blah blah, I don't really care. I was just providing a fun ancedote. I'm really not worried. I've been ketoing and low carbing for longer than most of you have even had accounts on bodybuilding.com

    Your advice is well meant, but half of it is wrong.

    Dont carb up again for another 3 weeks, then you can carb up at the end of every week.
    LOL 100% broscience.
    I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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    Originally Posted by skelooth View Post
    blah blah blah, I don't really care. I was just providing a fun ancedote. I'm really not worried. I've been ketoing and low carbing for longer than most of you have even had accounts on bodybuilding.com

    Your advice is well meant, but half of it is wrong.



    LOL 100% broscience.
    not really..
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    Yeah, really. I know exactly what the "induction phase" is. Point noted, no more friendly banter on the keto board. All of bodybuilding.com's forums really have become an extension of misc.
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    ^^^

    Why'd you carb up so quick op
    Because I can Going an extra week or two for a newbie is a good idea because it reinforces eating patterns and ensures the newb has successfully gotten into a state of ketosis for a little while.

    The fact is though, carbing up isn't hurting anyone. This keto diet isn't magic. Keto has lots of benefits, but it doesn't need to be anywhere near as extreme as the "bros" would have everyone believe. Especially at my weight. Do you really think a 300lb guy has to be worried about an induction phase? Hell no, I'd lose weight eating candy bars at this weight as long as it was under my maintenance calories. If you're not a competitive model, you can relax a little bit and enjoy your life while you're living it.

    What's the worst case scenario? I didn't lose an extra 1/4lb that week? It really doesn't matter. Real Progress is made in months and years. That's a simple concept the bros overlook because they think they're in some sort of race.
    I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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    Originally Posted by skelooth View Post
    blah blah blah, I don't really care. I was just providing a fun ancedote. I'm really not worried. I've been ketoing and low carbing for longer than most of you have even had accounts on bodybuilding.com

    Your advice is well meant, but half of it is wrong.



    LOL 100% broscience.

    and yet..... Stats: 6'0", 330 lbs

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    WB again skelooth. You should stick around this time.
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    Originally Posted by Bonkies View Post
    and yet..... Stats: 6'0", 330 lbs

    Spoken like a true 22 yr old. You might want to try lifting some weights little man (see how fun it is when people try to make snide comments?)
    I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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    WB again skelooth. You should stick around this time.
    We'll see lol. So far bb.com has been a much different place... and as much as i want to post i really dont have much to say. I already know how how to eat and lift so all i can really do is try to provide ancedotal advice to newbs. Id start a log but oh man this place has more trolls than ever!

    Otherwise im around making good progress and already close to squatting my body weight again. Good times!

    I am glad that some of the prevailing advice is less extreme than it was a few years ago.
    I've gained and lost over 100lbs more times than any man alive should. Do as I say and not as I do.
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    Originally Posted by skelooth View Post
    Yeah, really. I know exactly what the "induction phase" is. Point noted, no more friendly banter on the keto board. All of bodybuilding.com's forums really have become an extension of misc.
    Quoted for the truth goddamit! I wish the c-k-d board with Chimponarope and Eileen and that crazy ex-sniper Army guy (Rob?) was still around.
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    Originally Posted by JTA762 View Post
    Quoted for the truth goddamit! I wish the c-k-d board with Chimponarope and Eileen and that crazy ex-sniper Army guy (Rob?) was still around.
    I do miss that board.
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    Originally Posted by JTA762 View Post
    Quoted for the truth goddamit! I wish the c-k-d board with Chimponarope and Eileen and that crazy ex-sniper Army guy (Rob?) was still around.
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    I can agree that its mostly bro science, but studies have demonstrated that 2 weeks of low carb/hi fat does increase fat oxidation and attenuate glycogenolysis during exercise.

    My personal experience, reinforces this idea on both ends. When I go 2-4 weeks on low-carb/hi fat, I see that my results of a cutting phase are markedly better than if I carb up at the end of the first week. I also find that the longer I go without carb ups, the less I want carbs and the more I can taste the natural sweetness in things like broccoli and cabbage. On the other hand, if I carb up every week, I cant seem to ever kick my craving for some ice cream.

    Considering you've been doing this so long and you are currently obese, I dont think I'm giving terrible advice when I suggest you might benefit from restricting carbs for a longer period of time.

    You gotta do what works for you tho. Good luck figuring it out.
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    Originally Posted by DustyChicago View Post
    I can agree that its mostly bro science, but studies have demonstrated that 2 weeks of low carb/hi fat does increase fat oxidation and attenuate glycogenolysis during exercise.

    My personal experience, reinforces this idea on both ends. When I go 2-4 weeks on low-carb/hi fat, I see that my results of a cutting phase are markedly better than if I carb up at the end of the first week. I also find that the longer I go without carb ups, the less I want carbs and the more I can taste the natural sweetness in things like broccoli and cabbage. On the other hand, if I carb up every week, I cant seem to ever kick my craving for some ice cream.

    Considering you've been doing this so long and you are currently obese, I dont think I'm giving terrible advice when I suggest you might benefit from restricting carbs for a longer period of time.

    You gotta do what works for you tho. Good luck figuring it out.
    While I understand and agree with op's general tenor, this is the well reasoned and response. Bravo good sir.

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