Guys, guys...this is a little ridiculous. We've devoted 6 pages worth of comments going back and forth on the merits of a program? Ultimately, who cares? .
Apparently you do.
Those who can do and those who can't say you shouldn't.
Ultimately, they're in the business of making money just like everyone in here is.
Yep.
I, for one, am raking in the cash by posting here, trying to steer noobs around all the bull**** "programs" this site promotes that will not only cost them progress, but money also.
No brain, no gain.
You can't out-train bad nutrition.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
When looking at programmes I watched some of his videos to get a feel for his plan - He seemed a nice enough guy, certainly was suggesting lots of sups (but hey that's how they make money) - the thing that as a beginner put me off was, in just the couple of workout videos I saw he was saying how he felt sick, wraps around his wrist explaining he broke them, and how he heavily wraps his knees as they are "shot" - now I guess these things are part of the territory, but as a beginner I closed the videos thinking, ouch - maybe not for me.
Guys, guys...this is a little ridiculous. We've devoted 6 pages worth of comments going back and forth on the merits of a program?
Title of thread: "XXX ... Good or Bad?". Discussing the merits is pretty much the whole f'king point of "Good or Bad?", is it not?
That said, instead of 6 pages of the merits, one could probably go 12 pages worth on its demerits. So for efficiency's sake, you're getting your money's worth.
I did.
You've studied medicine for the last 7 years.
For phuck sakes man, you should know better.
and I don't see pics.
His program is solid and he is a solid man but the prog is not very well designed to suit "most of the people". It suits him better according to the physiology of his body, we all are different.
Anyways, I respect him and respect the time and effort he has put in. Its not easy and his effort should be appreciated.
The forums are very unhelpful here.
Generally, everyone should try helping instead of attacking
Generally, everyone should try helping instead of attacking
I haven't seen any of your contributions to this, or any other forum on this site. It's easy to sit on the back bench, and criticize the efforts of others to steer noobs away from bull**** "programs" and inappropriate advices
Since you feel these forums are so unhelpful, I'll be looking for your future posts to help improve whatever it is you feel are the shortcomings of other posts/posters here.
All of the forums on this site are buried in threads asking for help and advice. I suggest you get busy; your valuable insight is needed. Now.
No brain, no gain.
You can't out-train bad nutrition.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
I just wanted to leave this here since it's an ad thread;
Anyone recognize this man? Does he look familiar to you?
I have no idea who he is now.
I used to.
Exactly why I can't stand that guy. Every time he comes on it ends up being about him. He fails to tell the whole story. Complete snake oil salesman. Big bull ****ter
I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it. ~ Thomas Jefferson
I just wanted to leave this here since it's an ad thread;
Anyone recognize this man? Does he look familiar to you?
I have no idea who he is now.
I used to.
Originally Posted by pharmamarketer
Exactly why I can't stand that guy. Every time he comes on it ends up being about him. He fails to tell the whole story. Complete snake oil salesman. Big bull ****ter
Funny how nobody talks trash about Charles Atlas like that. But how many of us were inspired as kids to get to where we are today by his ads?
Same workout, different generation. Whatever inspires people to get up off their ass and make changes. I doubt a squat / DL program would appeal to a lot of senior newbs. Better to start out slow. I can't blame Popps for trying to feed his family.
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Funny how nobody talks trash about Charles Atlas like that. But how many of us were inspired as kids to get to where we are today by his ads?
Atlas never did sh*t for me, I was never skinny.
I've never trash talked old 'sup even though he's come after me itt.
I call bullsh*t when I see bullsh*t, and this is bullsh*t.
My journal;
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149715893
With great power comes great responsibility~Uncle Ben from Spider-Man
Some people just want to watch the world burn~Alfred from Batman
You can choose a life of responsibility or to be happy, you cannot do both~Ra's al Ghul from Batman
So, I've been lurking here for a while. Probably about 5 months now. Started with Stronglifts 5x5, am currently finishing up a month of 5/3/1 and have been thinking of moving on to Gethin's 12-Week trainer.
No, I will not be purchasing his stack. I take Muscle Pharm's Combat Powder, Animal Pak once a day, Fish Oil and a pre-workout.
I suppose I could still be considered a "Noob" as I am still easily confused with the entire nutritional aspect of all of this. I started at almost 240 pounds and have dropped down to 208 with noticeable muscle gains thanks to SL / 5/3/1.
What's the point of this post? Just a preemptive reply in case I DO decide to try the trainer. I'll be sure to post before and after pictures as well as what results were achieved. Rather than having the one-post crusaders from Gethin's Facebook fan page come over to defend him(If you didn't know, that's where they're coming from), I'll give an actual review of the program with honest results.
Hoping it's not a waste of 12 weeks. It will be a learning experience nonetheless.
This thread is still going? I'm a born again Gethin hater now. I'm glad I listen to others who knew better. Just hate it set me back
You live how you want to live and nobody can take that option away except yourself so do not blame anyone if you do not like the way you are living now. " I'm an Irish Can and not an Irish Can't "
Negative rep because you didn't agree with my post? Thanks, ArchAngel'73. I was simply saying I had planned on giving this a try and posting an honest review. Where's the harm in that?
Negative rep because you didn't agree with my post? Thanks, ArchAngel'73. I was simply saying I had planned on giving this a try and posting an honest review. Where's the harm in that?
You're welcome brah!
I'm doing you a favor in the big picture. When you're green again it will make it all the much more better.
-besides, someone else from the over 35 can green rep you for bumping a piece of sh*t thread in the OVER 35 section when you're 24 (you're not that deep in the red).
My journal;
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149715893
With great power comes great responsibility~Uncle Ben from Spider-Man
Some people just want to watch the world burn~Alfred from Batman
You can choose a life of responsibility or to be happy, you cannot do both~Ra's al Ghul from Batman
You're welcome brah!
I'm doing you a favor in the big picture. When you're green again it will make it all the much more better.
-besides, someone else from the over 35 can green rep you for bumping a piece of sh*t thread in the OVER 35 section when you're 24 (you're not that deep in the red).
Ah, I didn't notice what section it was in. This thread just popped up on Google is all!
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