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    Originally Posted by all pro View Post
    If Ron Paul runs independent the joke will be on conservatives. (Conservative = progressive fascist)
    The rest of us know that there is absolutely NO difference between Obummer and Rotney.
    Originally Posted by nodnarb481 View Post
    This.. Every time I hear someone talking about "why on earth would you vote for obama, everything sucks" I can't figure out how anything will change under Romney.. They're like..almost the same person
    These^
    Difference between Romney and Obama is minimal, even though they will attack eachother in order to convince everyone that they aren't.
    Obama will win another term, but only just.
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    Originally Posted by bertstairs View Post
    I dont think its me who needs to look up what fascism is lol....
    Here we have two northern Europeans arguing over American politics and the meaning of Fascism. I have an idea why don't you two non-Americans start a bodybuilding site over there? You would be far more relevant talking about the stumbling Euro and sinking Greece...
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    Originally Posted by CoolDehLa View Post
    Pls go loser
    Lol don't you have something better to do, than quote all my posts with insults?

    Rami, you need to take your ***** bro
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    Originally Posted by all pro View Post
    If Ron Paul runs independent the joke will be on conservatives. (Conservative = progressive fascist)
    The rest of us know that there is absolutely NO difference between Obummer and Rotney.
    strong this
    We need systems approach to government, no longer partisan patchwork
    adios guys, ill lurk 2/15
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    Does that now mean that if we elect Romney he will wave his magic wand and fix all our problems?

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    Originally Posted by Shoesfly View Post
    Lol don't you have something better to do, than quote all my posts with insults?

    Rami, you need to take your ***** bro
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    Originally Posted by CoolDehLa View Post
    This level of stalking is crazy
    Not my fault you posted your ******** profile in some other thread lol. Almost required a PhD in stalking to get your info man.

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    If Ron Paul runs independent he's got my vote. If not, I'll have to go with Romney even though I voted Obama last time. Obama and Romney are basically the same but I agree with Romney on the things they differ on.
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    Originally Posted by StayPerfect4Me View Post
    If Ron Paul runs independent he's got my vote. If not, I'll have to go with Romney even though I voted Obama last time. Obama and Romney are basically the same but I agree with Romney on the things they differ on.
    Obama will continue business as usual and/or Romney won't keep any of his promises. One want to take care of us, the other wants to exploit us. Can't you see its all just a vicious cycle?
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    I'm almost positive he stepped down because of a backroom deal or threat. How many more delegates are available?

    Edit: about 1000 delegates left.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Obama will continue business as usual and/or Romney won't keep any of his promises. One want to take care of us, the other wants to exploit us. Can't you see its all just a vicious cycle?
    I can see very clearly that it's a vicious cycle.

    Obama claims to be so much more different than Bush, but what policies of Bush did he do away with? Guantanamo Bay - still open. Patriot Act - extended tenfold and now we can be detained with no due process so Obama took Bush's policies and expanded upon them. He is also assassinating citizens such as teenage boys and pretty soon he will be tracking out internet activity with the new bills that are making their way through congress. He signed ACTA as well. Obama claimed to be against SOPA, but he was the one who requested the provisions in SOPA. Romney at least spoke out against SOPA as being too intrusive and I haven't heard Romney propose any sort of tracking or privacy invasions yet. War on Iraq - Obama followed Bush's timetable. War in Afghanistan - no change. War in Iran - Obama taking more pages out of the Bush playbook with sanctions and threats of war. Bush tax cuts - still in place, Obama making excuses saying it was necessary so taxes wouldn't be raised on people. Obamacare - death panels, even worse than what Bush was doing.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Obama will continue business as usual and/or Romney won't keep any of his promises. One want to take care of us, the other wants to exploit us. Can't you see its all just a vicious cycle?
    If you're implying Obama wants to take care of us. I must ask who is 'us'. Because he's not taking care of my buddies in construction who can't stand him, he's not taking care of my dad because he busted his ass off for 40 years at the same job and made a excellent salary(taxed 48%-- Oh and may I add he's not a millionaire. So we aren't exactly living off Cape Cod with yachts all day). Who is us? Because I think Obama is a di-ck. Seems like a whiney, crabby bitch-y as shole. Oh wait, that's the reputation he had here in Chciago before everyone rode him for President.
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    Originally Posted by bearfan34201 View Post
    If you're implying Obama wants to take care of us. I must ask who is 'us'. Because he's not taking care of my buddies in construction who can't stand him, he's not taking care of my dad because he busted his ass off for 40 years at the same job and made a excellent salary(taxed 48%-- Oh and may I add he's not a millionaire. So we aren't exactly living off Cape Cod with yachts all day). Who is us? Because I think Obama is a di-ck. Seems like a whiney, crabby bitch-y as shole. Oh wait, that's the reputation he had here in Chciago before everyone rode him for President.
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    Originally Posted by Shoesfly View Post
    Not my fault you posted your ******** profile in some other thread lol. Almost required a PhD in stalking to get your info man.

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    Romney still needs around 500 delegates to be the nominee.


    There is another 22 states/areas who have not voted yet. Around 950 delegates, many of which are proportional so the winner doesn't get them all.


    Paul is expected to win Texas and California. And also win New Mexico, Oregon and South Dakota which combined should collect him 300 of those 950 remaining delegates.


    Also likely to pick up delegates by being 2nd in Kentucky and a few other proportionally distributed delegate States. Which would give him another 50-100 delegates.


    Paul could pick up enough to still go to a brokered convention. If Gingrich drops out soon then it is possible.
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    Originally Posted by Rocky-Balboa View Post
    Romney still needs around 500 delegates to be the nominee.


    There is another 22 states/areas who have not voted yet. Around 950 delegates, many of which are proportional so the winner doesn't get them all.


    Paul is expected to win Texas and California. And also win New Mexico, Oregon and South Dakota which combined should collect him 300 of those 950 remaining delegates.


    Also likely to pick up delegates by being 2nd in Kentucky and a few other proportionally distributed delegate States. Which would give him another 50-100 delegates.


    Paul could pick up enough to still go to a brokered convention. If Gingrich drops out soon then it is possible.
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    Santorum Suspends: A Nomination Race in Context
    Well, FHQ will add its two cents. And not surprisingly, we'll look at Rick Santorum's decision to suspend his presidential campaign through the lens of the delegate count.

    All too often delegate counts don't matter in the grand scheme of things in most presidential nomination races. To the extent that they do, it is fleeting. Counting up delegates is only consequential and/or necessary in a couple of instances:
    After the race has progressed far enough that one candidate has effectively taken all/most of the momentum -- or continued riding it from the invisible primary portion of the campaign -- and thus stretched out to a large enough lead to make a comeback unlikely if not impossible.
    If the race has progressed to a point where two or more candidates are trading primary and caucus wins and staying within range of each other in terms of the delegate count.
    These are the extremes and throughout much of the post-reform era the process has moved ever closer to the former rather than the latter. A constantly frontloading calendar gave, for much of that period, frontrunning candidates a greater and better opportunity to effectively wrap up the nomination early if they had established themselves as the clear frontrunner heading into the contest portion of the race. The nomination races in both parties in 2000 and for the Democrats in 2004 are good examples. But if 2008 demonstrated anything it was that if the invisible primary (fundraising, poll position and endorsement) has proven inconclusive, then true delegate counting may ensue. Certainly, this was more the case on the Democratic side in 2008 than among the Republican candidates.

    One easy way of describing the 2012 Republican nomination race is to say that despite all the rules changes and all the calendar movement, it still played out pretty much like 2008. Super Tuesday came and went with one candidate well ahead of the others in the delegate count and a month later it was over. Of course, John McCain was way out in front of his rivals in 2008 after the February 5 Super Tuesday series of contests, but a month later -- after wins in Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas and Vermont -- the Arizona senator wrapped up the nomination. And that's just as it was in 2012. Romney emerged from Super Tuesday on March 6 with a sizable enough delegate lead and eliminated his final viable opponent a month later after wins in Maryland, Washington, DC and Wisconsin.

    Now, the explanation is more complex than that. After all McCain surpassed the 1191 delegate mark to officially clinch the nomination a month after Super Tuesday, whereas Romney will continue to march toward 1144 in a semi-contested to uncontested way for the rest of the calendar. The point here is not to minimize that distinction. Rather, the intent is to point out that while delegate counting is fun -- more so for some of us than others -- often these contests for a party's nomination are more a process of elimination. Presumptive nominees don't often have to concern themselves with the sorts of gain-deficit ratios and other delegate calculations Barbara Norrander (2000) so eloquently describes in discussing the end game of nomination contests. No, more often than not, it is simply a matter of a frontrunner eliminating his or her final viable opponent (Norrander 1996).

    We counted delegates for a while in 2012, but this one ended like so many other presidential nomination races of the post-reform era ended: with the runner-up withdrawing. In this case, Mitt Romney had established enough of a delegate lead that a Santorum comeback was unlikely if not impossible.
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    Originally Posted by Shoesfly View Post
    Google translate to the rescue! What was wrong with it?
    Just your general grammatical errors

    @ rocky balboa: Romney will soak up all the non-Paul delegates in the caucus states, don't forget that.
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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    And here is the part where people who have talked sh*t on Romney for years slowly begin backing him.
    I already have the google search completed and bookmarked. It will be quite comical when the resident faux conservatives start to embrace him.
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    Originally Posted by PhantomChaos View Post
    The Grand Old Tea Party has had its hate machine going at WOT ever since the primary season started. Now the REAL fun begins!
    They've been going after BO's throat since November of 2008...

    Originally Posted by frasersteen View Post
    He's pretty much already started.

    Strong flaming on Obama though seeing as the GOP nominees have basically spent the last 6 months collectively slagging off Obama at every opportunity.
    Kinda like BO's campaign against W...
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    Looks like Obama's getting a 2nd term.
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    Originally Posted by LOGfan View Post
    So you'll all be voting for Ron Paul, right? It's business as usual with Obama or Romney. More wars, more spending.

    Paul won't get elected, but the the least you can salvage from this charade called "elections" is to send a strong message that a percentage of Americans are awake and willing to fight back.

    Vote Paul.
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    Originally Posted by bearfan34201 View Post
    If you're implying Obama wants to take care of us. I must ask who is 'us'. Because he's not taking care of my buddies in construction who can't stand him, he's not taking care of my dad because he busted his ass off for 40 years at the same job and made a excellent salary(taxed 48%-- Oh and may I add he's not a millionaire. So we aren't exactly living off Cape Cod with yachts all day). Who is us? Because I think Obama is a di-ck. Seems like a whiney, crabby bitch-y as shole. Oh wait, that's the reputation he had here in Chciago before everyone rode him for President.
    48% is an impossible income tax rate...I can't even imagine what you'd have to do to reach that rate.

    So I'd imagine the rest of your "experiences" are made up too.
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    Originally Posted by StayPerfect4Me View Post
    If Ron Paul runs independent he's got my vote. If not, I'll have to go with Romney even though I voted Obama last time. Obama and Romney are basically the same but I agree with Romney on the things they differ on.
    notsureifsrs. brb would vote for Paul but not Johnson. Strong retards who support Paul but not his message.
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    Originally Posted by StayPerfect4Me View Post
    Obama is Bush 2.0 srs

    Obama is the best thing ever happened to the GOP. Had McCain won, the GOP would be finished b/c the GOP would get the blame for this mess. In 2 short years, Obama single handedly destroyed the Democrats, resurrected the GOP and restallled them back into power. No GOP could have achieved that. yet Obama did it! Obama is god's gift to the GOP.
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    Originally Posted by Meatballx View Post
    Im pretty sure when delegates are freed, they are able to vote whom they want at the convention. This is exactly what Paul is relying on to take the nomination.
    you're telling me that delegates who voted for a religious nut are going to switch to rp
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