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    Originally Posted by CarlitosBX View Post
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    Also noticed you got a forum going which is a huge traffic bait...........is i hard to manage it?
    Not really, I put up $200 to buy a licensed version of Vbulletin and when you set it up right it just runs itself. I don't have to hardly do any moderation, there's about one spammer per week that I have to ban. Otherwise it's just great for getting repeat traffic and letting others generate SEO rich content for me. Plus it's one of those things that if you keep driving traffic to, in ten years time you could have a form that's generating 10,000 posts a day drawing in all kinds of traffic without you ever having to do a damn thing.
    Originally Posted by LaggingBiceps View Post
    having your own product isnt as easy as most people think. you can make EASY money with adsense. For the people ywho said $5 per 1000 impressions, youredoingitwrong. Do proper keyword research and you should be making more. I never made less than $60/1000 impressions. adsense is the easiest way to make money. Towards the last few months when I was heavy with it, I worked 5 hours a month and it was 95% profit. All I paid for was hosting, content, and filipinos to manage my blog network.

    owning your own product and selling that is fine, but in my opinion its not worth the hours and stress you need to deal with.
    Explain your process for getting $60/1000 impressions. That seems absurdly high.
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    Don't think anyone ever answered, how strict is amazon when it comes to creating an image that leads to their site for a buy? For example they give you some crappy little image but am I allowed to replace it with my own that shows it in higher definition and says something like HEY BUY THIS CLICK HERE.

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    Originally Posted by CarlitosBX View Post
    Notsureifsrs lol

    IMO is not dumb, briefly #1-what I am saying is I rather first figure out a quick profit to at least cover the monthly cost of keeping the site running, before I start investing in providing my own product or in something bigger.

    #2- How do you even know if I have figure out my ROI which is why I brought up #1 first lol

    Theme cost me - $50
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    Domain-$.99
    So far I am in $81 invested in this site and my monthly cost would be $10

    Once I figure out that quick profit that will get me those $10 to maintain the site monthly, then I will quickly figure out a way to make a bigger profit knowing the traffic, the content will be huge!

    I already have a company lined up as for an affiliate program, already got and interview as well lined up and 2 more articles as well. I haven't even launched the site yet lol
    Why do you have to invest money in your own product? You can get something done in a day... I don't see the logic here having been in this game for awhile. If a product suits the site, why would you not do that from the beginning. I am trying to help you, I think I've been pretty successful and have experience to back my reasoning. However, suit yourself man

    Originally Posted by LaggingBiceps View Post
    having your own product isnt as easy as most people think. you can make EASY money with adsense. For the people ywho said $5 per 1000 impressions, youredoingitwrong. Do proper keyword research and you should be making more. I never made less than $60/1000 impressions. adsense is the easiest way to make money. Towards the last few months when I was heavy with it, I worked 5 hours a month and it was 95% profit. All I paid for was hosting, content, and filipinos to manage my blog network.

    owning your own product and selling that is fine, but in my opinion its not worth the hours and stress you need to deal with.
    What.... have you ever even owned your own product? It's a breeze dude, complete automation for payments and delivery. Rarely any support either. I'm not sure what "all the hours and stress" you have to deal with are lol. For something that sells several thousand copies I maybe get 30 support tickets.
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    Originally Posted by peteyyytran View Post
    Don't think anyone ever answered, how strict is amazon when it comes to creating an image that leads to their site for a buy? For example they give you some crappy little image but am I allowed to replace it with my own that shows it in higher definition and says something like HEY BUY THIS CLICK HERE.

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    I don't think it matters at all, you can link to them however you like.
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    well owning my own product isnt from my experience, but other people who sell certain software it seems like a lot to deal with. support apparently is a pain in the ass, theres the costs of development and updates, stuff like that....for physical products, i wouldnt even want to deal with shipping and distribution.

    but my point is adsense is the easiest way to make money. everyone is diff but i started with adsense and thats where all my exp is in. for $60/1000 impressions, you gotta go for good niches. $60 isn't really that high. that's only $.50 cpc and a 12% ctr.

    outsource a site with 50 pages of content, hire 5 filipinos for your own strategy of SEO and the rest is hands free. people who say adsense sucks are the ones who go for the "low hanging fruit" and make a few bucks. the money is in profitable niches.
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    Explain your process for getting $60/1000 impressions. That seems absurdly high.
    Try almost $60 per adsense CLICK.

    (although its impossible to rank for any of these keywords if you don't know what you're doing)



    There are certain keywords that go upwards of $100 per CLICK as well...

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    ^^^those are on googles network so in the search results. you wont get $50 for a click on a regular website lol the most i think you get is around $5 on the content network (or whatever its called)
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    hey guys, i made a new site www.gymgrounds.com geared towards the fitness niche. was wondering if u guys could check it out and give me tips on how to increase traffic etc. any help will be thoroughly appreciated. 10q

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    Originally Posted by LaggingBiceps View Post
    ^^^those are on googles network so in the search results. you wont get $50 for a click on a regular website lol the most i think you get is around $5 on the content network (or whatever its called)
    You're right, but the most you can get per click is most definitely not $5, hear stories on IM forums all the time of gigantic clicks.

    Just an example: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...e-account.html

    Dude on first page with $80 click, dude on 2nd page with $103 click. (Although they are probably that high because the clicks converted, but theres tons of people in the thread with anywhere from $7-$50 clicks)

    Gotta think outside the box with keywords..

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    Originally Posted by peteyyytran View Post
    Try almost $60 per adsense CLICK.

    (although its impossible to rank for any of these keywords if you don't know what you're doing)

    There are certain keywords that go upwards of $100 per CLICK as well...
    very surprised 'buy viagra' isn't top 25

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    Originally Posted by peteyyytran View Post
    You're right, but the most you can get per click is most definitely not $5, hear stories on IM forums all the time of gigantic clicks.

    Just an example: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...e-account.html

    Dude on first page with $80 click, dude on 2nd page with $103 click. (Although they are probably that high because the clicks converted, but theres tons of people in the thread with anywhere from $7-$50 clicks)

    Gotta think outside the box with keywords..
    thats pretty sick i wonder what their average was though. i know my highest click was "just" $9 for a site that average like 80 cents.

    I really would love to see Wikipedia add some adsense and see their daily reports
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    Originally Posted by pbnugget View Post
    very surprised 'buy viagra' isn't top 25
    pharmaceuticals are very very VERY tight on ppc
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    Originally Posted by LaggingBiceps View Post
    well owning my own product isnt from my experience, but other people who sell certain software it seems like a lot to deal with. support apparently is a pain in the ass, theres the costs of development and updates, stuff like that....for physical products, i wouldnt even want to deal with shipping and distribution.

    but my point is adsense is the easiest way to make money. everyone is diff but i started with adsense and thats where all my exp is in. for $60/1000 impressions, you gotta go for good niches. $60 isn't really that high. that's only $.50 cpc and a 12% ctr.

    outsource a site with 50 pages of content, hire 5 filipinos for your own strategy of SEO and the rest is hands free. people who say adsense sucks are the ones who go for the "low hanging fruit" and make a few bucks. the money is in profitable niches.
    The only problem with your theory is you hand control of your entire income to a 3rd party.

    At any stage Google can change its algorithm, its terms of conditions, they could even ban you.

    I'm not saying Adsense isn't great because I think it is but I will evenntually be moving to owning my own products a lot more. Giving me the power and control of my income.

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    When people say they build x pages like 10 pages, does that mean 10 total pages or 10 pages on google results (100 total)?

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    Originally Posted by Jerry158 View Post
    When people say they build x pages like 10 pages, does that mean 10 total pages or 10 pages on google results (100 total)?

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    lol the first, cant imagine anyone would ever mean the latter

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    Originally Posted by Bar182 View Post
    The only problem with your theory is you hand control of your entire income to a 3rd party.

    At any stage Google can change its algorithm, its terms of conditions, they could even ban you.

    I'm not saying Adsense isn't great because I think it is but I will evenntually be moving to owning my own products a lot more. Giving me the power and control of my income.
    This. Had an Adsense authority style site that was ranking top 5 for several competitive keywords roughly six months. Was pulling in rougly $40 - $80 a day (from Adsense/Affiliate offers). Google changed it's alogorithm, and within a day, my sites income went from that to $0. Nothing wrong with Adsense; just don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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    im pretty new to keyword researching.. not sure what numbers to look for but is this good? its a 3 letter keyword and there is a EDM available for it.

    Competition: High

    Global Monthly Searches: 6,600

    Local Monthly Searches: 4,400

    There's About 2,660,000 results in google, lol fail, and there's an authority site which is the main brand that is rank #1..

    After typing all this, i realize it's probably NOT a good keyword. But still, can anyone explain a good setup for Google Keyword tool?
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    the number of results in google doesnt matter at all. The strength of the top 10 is what matters, and even moreso the top 3 since that is when you'll get significant traffic.

    The competition in GKWT is ad competition, you want it to be high.

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    Originally Posted by JTringer View Post
    the number of results in google doesnt matter at all. The strength of the top 10 is what matters, and even moreso the top 3 since that is when you'll get significant traffic.

    The competition in GKWT is ad competition, you want it to be high.
    thanks repped. if the brand takes the top 2 and amazon the third, is it a bad idea? its going to be a MNS, but it might be worth a shot??
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    Originally Posted by abuseme View Post
    thanks repped. if the brand takes the top 2 and amazon the third, is it a bad idea? its going to be a MNS, but it might be worth a shot??
    subdomains, youtube videos, amazon, ebay etc are usually easy to outrank. I like seeing them in the top 10 results.

    Edit: Also is the "brand" in the first two results really targetting your primary keyword? (keyword in URL, Description, header etc), if its a root domain it will be harder to outrank.

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    thanks repped. if the brand takes the top 2 and amazon the third, is it a bad idea? its going to be a MNS, but it might be worth a shot??
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    register at serpiq.com and check out the competition level
    nvm, figured it out.. pretty big difference between that site and google keyword tool
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    For anyone with ******** and Twitter. Here's some info on posting times to get the most clicks on links etc.

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    Originally Posted by PrivateNumber View Post
    For anyone with ******** and Twitter. Here's some info on posting times to get the most clicks on links etc.

    http://www.rakacreative.com/studio/n...ime_To_Post.jp
    Interesting. thanks

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    Originally Posted by peteyyytran View Post
    Try almost $60 per adsense CLICK.

    (although its impossible to rank for any of these keywords if you don't know what you're doing)



    There are certain keywords that go upwards of $100 per CLICK as well...
    These figures are exaggerated, ads are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them

    People RARELY will get anything over $10 a click, regardless of what keyword


    EDIT: not saying it doesn't happen, but there is noone out there getting $100 dollar clicks on the regular

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    Originally Posted by PrivateNumber View Post
    For anyone with ******** and Twitter. Here's some info on posting times to get the most clicks on links etc.
    Does it matter what time zone?

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    Originally Posted by peteyyytran View Post
    Does it matter what time zone?
    I would assume its in respect to your time zone

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    Originally Posted by iknowdatfeelbro View Post
    I would assume its in respect to your time zone
    Why would you assume that. If anything I would assume EST, since I feel like the country goes off that time.
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    Originally Posted by jvinci View Post
    Why would you assume that. If anything I would assume EST, since I feel like the country goes off that time.
    It's just the time zone of your target audience...
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