***United States Air Force thread pt. 4 Still Droppin bombs on your a$$***SRS

[chrsschb]

What you guys fail to see is that PT still falls under standards and conduct. If someone is currently in a "Fail" status on their pt test during close out of the EPR, they will be marked "Does Not Meet" in the Standards block on the EPR, receive a referral and will not be able to WAPS test that year.

Yeah, because the Air Force always works "as intended."

Look man you do 30 hours of volunteer work, I'll do an extra hour per day, per month in the gym. You'll be the best in the community, but I'll be the best in the field.

You're telling me you should be rated higher than me because I value (and the Air Force should too) physical fitness over hanging dry-erase boards in the local elementary school?


Edit: And meeting "Air Force" standards has never been something I was or probably ever will be rated on. The system is broke.

[poisyn]

Could you link this? Tried finding it and couldn't

The AFI was updated, says "should" select PPE instead of "must"

Still lol'ing at your sig, s'all good though man we all had that mindset at one point

[chrsschb]

The AFI was updated, says "should" select PPE instead of "must"

Still lol'ing at your sig, s'all good though man we all had that mindset at one point

inb4 commanders don't care and require it anyways.

I wore reflective material to Eglin one year and they still gave me chit for not wearing a fluorescent vest.

[poisyn]

inb4 commanders don't care and require it anyways.

I wore reflective material to Eglin one year and they still gave me chit for not wearing a fluorescent vest.

MacDill here, came to work a few hours ago with nothing flective to test it out for the first time and gate guy didn't say chit so I think i'm good here, was a 1 striper though so he might've been scared to say anything

[chrsschb]

MacDill here, came to work a few hours ago with nothing flective to test it out for the first time and gate guy didn't say chit so I think i'm good here, was a 1 striper though so he might've been scared to say anything

I was in full leathers. Had to wait for the "supervisor" to come over. Real great experience. What I wear is much higher quality and far exceeds standards. BRB thinking a psycho soccer mom cares about your yellow vest.

Oh and the fukker who ran me over in 2009, yeah he didn't care either.

[Vaen]

Yeah, because the Air Force always works "as intended."

Look man you do 30 hours of volunteer work, I'll do an extra hour per day, per month in the gym. You'll be the best in the community, but I'll be the best in the field.

You're telling me you should be rated higher than me because I value (and the Air Force should too) physical fitness over hanging dry-erase boards in the local elementary school?

Edit: And meeting "Air Force" standards has never been something I was or probably ever will be rated on. The system is broke.

Not sure I get what you're saying here... You don't get rated on standards and conduct?

Anyway, volunteer and school bullets will not be on the new EPR, just 8 solid WORK bullets. Are you saying that people who fail their PT test before the end of their reporting period won't get referral EPRs?

Also, I never said anything about volunteering being more important than PT, where'd you get that? I absolutely despise people that spend hours or more of their week volunteering and not getting sh*t done at work. I volunteered up to this point to check a box, I can give a sh*t less about the whole Airmen concept. Let me come to work and do my job and go home to my family. This new system will allow me to do that and not feel the pressure that I'm not doing enough.

[chrsschb]

Not sure I get what you're saying here... You don't get rated on standards and conduct?

Anyway, volunteer and school bullets will not be on the new EPR, just 8 solid WORK bullets. Are you saying that people who fail their PT test before the end of their reporting period won't get referral EPRs?

Also, I never said anything about volunteering being more important than PT, where'd you get that? I absolutely despise people that spend hours or more of their week volunteering and not getting sh*t done at work. I volunteered up to this point to check a box, I can give a sh*t less about the whole Airmen concept. Let me come to work and do my job and go home to my family. This new system will allow me to do that and not feel the pressure that I'm not doing enough.

Sorry that came off kind of harsh. What I mean is the standards are established and enforced differently across the air force. Airmen are not rated against each other or against a uniform standard. The dirtbags getting referral EPRs are getting waivers for everything, still getting promoted and still dragging us down in the field. They are a liability that the air force keeps making excuses for in order to keep them around, meanwhile we're kicking out extremely technical and devoted Airmen left and right who can do the job of several others in less time.

For most the standards are a check box, yes or no and unless you're a catastrophic failure or kissing someone's ass, meeting standards isn't good enough. How do you excel at putting on your uniform and getting your haircut? You either do it or you don't. But a person can excel at PT, their job, etc but that isn't what is important on an EPR.

Hope that clarifies a little.

[SpiteTheOdds]

That was quick: AFN is off the air.

[iTrek]

That was quick: AFN is off the air.

Can't say I'm really mad about that.

[Yero91]

Dat feel when can't receive packages. Government shutdown, not even once.

[combatdepth]

Dat feel when can't receive packages. Government shutdown, not even once.

Lol... Really?

I'm sure the thousands of gov civillians that are unemployed right now are sad for you not getting protien powder in the mail at tech school. Anything I can do to help you?

[pep_meister]

Lol... Really?

I'm sure the thousands of gov civillians that are unemployed right now are sad for you not getting protien powder in the mail at tech school. Anything I can do to help you?

dem feels. technician at my guard base. getting owned right now.

[combatdepth]

dem feels. technician at my guard base. getting owned right now.

You're full time??? Didn't know that dawg. Sorry about the luck!

[Vaen]

Sorry that came off kind of harsh. What I mean is the standards are established and enforced differently across the air force. Airmen are not rated against each other or against a uniform standard. The dirtbags getting referral EPRs are getting waivers for everything, still getting promoted and still dragging us down in the field. They are a liability that the air force keeps making excuses for in order to keep them around, meanwhile we're kicking out extremely technical and devoted Airmen left and right who can do the job of several others in less time.

For most the standards are a check box, yes or no and unless you're a catastrophic failure or kissing someone's ass, meeting standards isn't good enough. How do you excel at putting on your uniform and getting your haircut? You either do it or you don't. But a person can excel at PT, their job, etc but that isn't what is important on an EPR.

Hope that clarifies a little.

I get what you're saying. There's always going to be a human factor with EPRs. I think as long as a clear cut policy with no wiggle room for interpretation comes out that will help. It starts with the staffs, we have to be honest with our people and ourselves if this is ever going to get fixed.

[cphustla]

on the topic of pt test...


just failed mine, my first fail, legs were locked up.. ran a 1340 talk about shet went from a 1200 to 1340


pretty upset with my self.

[cphustla]

dem feels. technician at my guard base. getting owned right now.

my base is half guard.. half my shop is guard... dem feels...on 12s

[F2.]

on the topic of pt test...


just failed mine, my first fail, legs were locked up.. ran a 1340 talk about shet went from a 1200 to 1340


pretty upset with my self.

I know that feel. I ran a 1215 1.5 on monday, and couldn't finish 3/4 of a mile that thursday on my test. Luckily that Monday was a mock test, with some people from my squadron, so the commander immediately signed off on having it deleted from my record.

[JetLife]

You guys need to hold yourself to a higher standard physically. I know not everyone is meant to be a marathon runner or go in the gym and throw around weight all day... But you are in the United States Military...

[iTrek]

You guys need to hold yourself to a higher standard physically. I know not everyone is meant to be a marathon runner or go in the gym and throw around weight all day... But you are in the United States Military...

I can agree with that. Almost everyone in this thread lifts so they should be putting some effort into their cardiovascular endurance too. I bike/run 3 times a week and my gains haven't been affected.

[F2.]

You guys need to hold yourself to a higher standard physically. I know not everyone is meant to be a marathon runner or go in the gym and throw around weight all day... But you are in the United States Military...

Sorry, didn't realize my run time was indicative of my overall physical well being. Not to mention in no shape, fashion, or form will a run time any faster benefit me in my job. Having a decent big 3 is a billion times more functional in my job.

[thedoggod]

I met a "Captain Hook" today. What are some funny name combos you've seen?

[JetLife]

Sorry, didn't realize my run time was indicative of my overall physical well being. Not to mention in no shape, fashion, or form will a run time any faster benefit me in my job. Having a decent big 3 is a billion times more functional in my job.

I get it, passing your 1.5 mile run has very little to do with your job but still have some self respect for yourself. If somebody can't pass a PT test, I don't want them next to me in Combat (regardless of their job... we all took the same oath).

[F2.]

I get it, passing your 1.5 mile run has very little to do with your job but still have some self respect for yourself. If somebody can't pass a PT test, I don't want them next to me in Combat (regardless of their job... we all took the same oath).

I agree. Like I said above, I went from easily passing one day to not being able to run a a mile 2 days later. It wasn't a laziness, it was severe plantar fascitiis and moderate shin splints that stopped me.

[Charuto222]

Sorry, didn't realize my run time was indicative of my overall physical well being. Not to mention in no shape, fashion, or form will a run time any faster benefit me in my job. Having a decent big 3 is a billion times more functional in my job.

Brb manual dexterity is the only physical attribute needed for my job therefore playing xbox and fapping should be the only physical training I have to do

[SDFlip]

I met a "Captain Hook" today. What are some funny name combos you've seen?

Mr. Heesuk S. Dik
PACAF

serious

[hindes204]

You guys need to hold yourself to a higher standard physically. I know not everyone is meant to be a marathon runner or go in the gym and throw around weight all day... But you are in the United States Military...

I do not run.


Ever.


I still pass.


If you can't pass the AF PT test, GTFO

[hindes204]

I can agree with that. Almost everyone in this thread lifts so they should be putting some effort into their cardiovascular endurance too. I bike/run 3 times a week and my gains haven't been affected.

No.

[pep_meister]

I do not run.


Ever.


I still pass.


If you can't pass the AF PT test, GTFO

lol i passed pt test at 5'10 245 lbs 36" waist maxed out pushups and situps and had a 12:30 run. if you fail... then wow. not you ^^^ but others. i dont run ever. never ever. and i see 150lb guys failing the run.

[HamMach1]

I met a "Captain Hook" today. What are some funny name combos you've seen?

A1C Gooch

[usafcolt]

I do not run.


Ever.


I still pass.




If you can't pass the AF PT test, GTFO

THIS. I LOATHE running. I have a running joke (no pun intended, honestly) that I only run twice a year...PT test (no 90. feelsbadman). Running is overrated. But I have no sympathy for people who fail their test. I understand there's some with certain circumstances, but if you're just fat and lazy, GTFO.


Who remembers the bike test? Oh man.