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    Shoulder Press (behind the neck or in front)

    Which of these exercises are best for adding size/muscle to the shoulders?
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    In front..

    No added benefits doing it behind, other than screwing up your rotator cuffs/other shoulder injuries..
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    Originally Posted by TimMason91 View Post
    In front..

    No added benefits doing it behind, other than screwing up your rotator cuffs/other shoulder injuries..
    This. I cringe everytime I see someone doing any press/pull behind the neck.
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    Originally Posted by TimMason91 View Post
    In front..

    No added benefits doing it behind, other than screwing up your rotator cuffs/other shoulder injuries..
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    People on these forums love to demonize BTN presses just about as much as false grip bench presses

    Does BTN put more stress on your shoulders than in front? Yes. Will you injure your RCs by doing BTN? Maybe. Should you never do BTN? Not necessarily.

    Given you have the requisite shoulder flexibility, you can go BTN if you want. However, if you don't have a strong preference for one over the other, I suggest you stick to keeping the bar in front of you.
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    I can physically do it btn with no problems. I'm just trying to figure out if one is more effective than the other
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    Originally Posted by badgerboy52 View Post
    I can physically do it btn with no problems. I'm just trying to figure out if one is more effective than the other
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    Originally Posted by badgerboy52 View Post
    I can physically do it btn with no problems. I'm just trying to figure out if one is more effective than the other
    stick to doing it properly.. (in front)
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    I just do Military Press, don't really feel comfortable with Behind the Neck.
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    The are both beneficial for building muscle.

    Personally, I don't think the risk vs reward warrants you doing behind the neck presses.

    You will be able to build noticeable size and strength doing presses in front and they will be less likely to injure your shoulders.
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    I haven't done behind the neck as I'm weary of throwing out shoulders, but it makes a lot of sense to me to do it that way as the weight is more over your entire shoulder opposed to on your anterior delts in the eccentric.
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    Originally Posted by badgerboy52 View Post
    Which of these exercises are best for adding size/muscle to the shoulders?
    BTN by a mile.

    But that's just me.
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    I do both, but I go heavy in front, and after I finish all my sets infront I cut the weight down and do about 2-3 sets BTN.
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    Originally Posted by TimMason91 View Post
    stick to doing it properly.. (in front)

    One day, if you learn how to do BTN Presses correctly, let us know how it feels.

    Meanwhile, I can tell you that I prefer BTN over front because it isolates the delts more (much less pec involvement) and it hits the medial head more (not all the stress is on the anterior). However, you MUST use the appropriate ROM (don't lower the bar below your ear-lobes) and don't go too heavy (no lower than 8 reps).

    And for those who are afraid of getting RC injuries: strengthen your RC. Just like anything else. Do the internal/external rotations, etc. Jim Cordova has some good RC exercises in his shoulder video.
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    I do both. As mentioned make sure your shoulders are flexible is you choose to do BTN. I personally think doing BTN is a great way to build mass. When doing regular shoulder press you incorporate your upper chest and tris much more than when you do BTN.

    BTN gets a bad rap, I do them on the plate loaded machine to prevent any injury and they help keep me flexible and have significantly built my shoulders up over the years. Do them correctly and they're great.
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    Anyone who thinks that pressing BTN is dangerous and there is no payoff should probably take a good long look at Mariusz Pudzianowski. He has great shoulders and does extensive BTN pressing, and is one of the strongest men in the world.
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    Which ever feels best for you. If I ever press I do BTN, feels more natural.
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    Do BTN standing and from traps-> lockout. This will limit the amount of ego weight you can use. Most people injuring themselves are probably arched up on a seated press and going halfway down with weight they can't even come close to handling.
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    Q for behind-neck pressing critics:

    What if you keep your elbows in front of you and lower the bar behind neck through a massive increase in elbow flexion? Kind of like almost becoming triceps overhead extension?

    Might limit you to less weight than even those extensions but at least it seems shoulder (if not elbow) healthy.
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