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    Originally Posted by wellwisher4u View Post
    Quran doesn't but the Prophet(Saw) did. And he even cured people who were possessed by Jinn.

    What sort of evidence you need?

    I mean , I have seen people who never heard of some languages, but when they were possessed by the Jinn, they spoke those languages. And the other proof is that, when you recite some Quranic verses over them, they start screaming, since it hurts them. They can't bear the pain. While normal human being doesn't has any such problem in hearing Qran
    Aren't there Muslim Jinns? Why does it hurt the non Muslim Jinns?

    And why is there no recorded evidence or proof that they exist, there is only anecdotal evidence and stories.

    Is it true that Muslims don't pour boiling water in the sink because they fear they will get attacked by a Jinn that lives in the pipes?

    And last, if I openly call out Jinns and challenge them to do something to me why does nothing happen to me?
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    Originally Posted by wellwisher4u View Post
    So all the important religious leaders can only be from Quraiysh? Like the hadeeth says. If not then what does the Imam being from Quraysh signifies?
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    There's a difference of opinion on whether the Caliph must be from Quraysh or recommended to be from Quraysh, all other criteria fulfilled.

    One of the reasons why Abu Bakr (may God be pleased with him) was selected as the first Caliph, as opposed to the other candidates of the Ansar (people of Madina) is that he was Qurayshi while the Ansar were not.

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    Originally Posted by boseador View Post
    Aren't there Muslim Jinns? Why does it hurt the non Muslim Jinns?

    And why is there no recorded evidence or proof that they exist, there is only anecdotal evidence and stories.

    Is it true that Muslims don't pour boiling water in the sink because they fear they will get attacked by a Jinn that lives in the pipes?

    And last, if I openly call out Jinns and challenge them to do something to me why does nothing happen to me?
    Probably because it's accepted based on personal experiences. Anyone who has any doubts about the matter can seek out the people and places that deal with Jinn regularly, and then hope they can somehow get rid of them once they are possessed.

    Jinns don't just respond to call-out threads and I wouldn't take the matter lightly. There are unhygienic and blasphemous rituals that are followed in order to convince a Jinn that you are willing to work with them, but of course at that point you're on your own.

    The houses of black magicians (who regularly work with evil Jinn) are described as being putrid and filthy, soaked in urine and feces (which Jinn eat), and an unhygenic atmosphere which Jinn enjoy because it's contrary to Islamic principles. They enjoy any places which are involved in blasphemy and major sins. A contract with them often involves cursing God, the Prophets (pbut), and desecrating sacred texts or changing them.

    I never heard about your boiling water in the drain story.
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    Probably because it's accepted based on personal experiences. Anyone who has any doubts about the matter can seek out the people and places that deal with Jinn regularly, and then hope they can somehow get rid of them once they are possessed.

    Jinns don't just respond to call-out threads and I wouldn't take the matter lightly. There are unhygienic and blasphemous rituals that are followed in order to convince a Jinn that you are willing to work with them, but of course at that point you're on your own.

    The houses of black magicians (who regularly work with evil Jinn) are described as being putrid and filthy, soaked in urine and feces (which Jinn eat), and an unhygenic atmosphere which Jinn enjoy because it's contrary to Islamic principles. They enjoy any places which are involved in blasphemy and major sins. A contract with them often involves cursing God, the Prophets (pbut), and desecrating sacred texts or changing them.

    I never heard about your boiling water in the drain story.
    So Jinns, beings made from light or fire,afaIk, eat urine and feces? Do they have a digestive system?

    How do we know they eat these things?
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    Originally Posted by boseador View Post
    So Jinns, beings made from light or fire,afaIk, eat urine and feces? Do they have a digestive system?

    How do we know they eat these things?
    All we know is what the Prophet (pbuh) told us (don't know how digestion works etc.)

    They eat feces and bones.

    Ibn Mas`ud reports that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) says: “There came to me an inviter on behalf of the Jinn and I went along with him and recited to them the Qur’an.” He (the narrator) said: The Prophet then went along with us and showed us their traces and traces of their embers. The Jinn asked the Prophet about their provision and he said: “Every bone on which the name of God is recited is your provision. The time it will fall in your hand it would be covered with flesh, and you can have all the droppings as food for your animals.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of God be upon him) said, “So do not use these things for cleaning yourselves after relieving oneself, for they are the food and provision of Jinn.” (Reported by Muslim)
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    Different topic.

    So God created heaven, hell and the earth. Adam and Eve lived in heaven then got kicked out of heaven and placed in earth as punishment?

    Also, what did God have before he created man, jinn and angels and heaven, hell and earth?
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    Originally Posted by boseador View Post
    Different topic.

    So God created heaven, hell and the earth. Adam and Eve lived in heaven then got kicked out of heaven and placed in earth as punishment?

    Also, what did God have before he created man, jinn and angels and heaven, hell and earth?
    This is one of the topics that you should reflect on to be in awe of God. Before everything was created, even before God created eternal things like Heaven and Hell, God existed alone with nothing else. That is why God is pre-eternal.

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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
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    I don't think we should try to come up with hard and fast rules like "you SHOULD marry within your culture" or "you SHOULD NOT marry within your culture".

    What we SHOULD do is marry pious spouses who we can love, respect, and with whom we are compatible. Culture is definitely one aspect of compatibility. If someone gets married to a person of a different culture, on purpose, and this proves to create more difficulties than they can handle, and they get divorced as a result, or live a very difficult married life due to conflicts, then it's not worthwhile and the religion doesn't encourage needless challenges.

    When cross-cultural marriages work, it's great, especially if people learn different languages and learn to love different cultures. If it only creates tension and hostility, then it's not a good idea at all. These issues should be carefully examined among families before they get married.

    Personally, I looked for piety as the most important factor in my marriage. But many other things were important to me, such as compatibility, physical attraction, and knowledge of the Arabic language.

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    I agree that you shouldn't concentrate on outside of culture only or inside.

    Let's say the person ends up being outside of culture, physical attraction etc is all there BUT parent(s) cannot come to the idea of there child marrying outside of culture.

    I know the ruling on it, if the Father (wali) disagrees because of a such things you can get a Imaam etc...

    But will this not hurt ties of kinship?

    I know culture can be a beautiful thing but honestly I see very little of that beauty the rest is just negativity that holds a man back. I know we went over this but its frustrating.

    I'd like to add on something, would it not be problematic for a Sister specifically to go back home and marry instead of finding someone here?( which the only option in this situation 95% has to be outside of culture)
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    Why do exorcisms work with Christian priests or other non muslim priests? One would think it would require a muslim priest to exorcise a demon.

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    Originally Posted by mstrwaheed View Post
    Why do exorcisms work with Christian priests or other non muslim priests? One would think it would require a muslim priest to exorcise a demon.
    Most of the time they will not. They would only work if the Jinn himself is scared or fed up (or happens to have the same religion as the exorcist and takes their admonition).
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    Originally Posted by Kurd4evah View Post
    Walakoum Salam

    I agree that you shouldn't concentrate on outside of culture only or inside.

    Let's say the person ends up being outside of culture, physical attraction etc is all there BUT parent(s) cannot come to the idea of there child marrying outside of culture.

    I know the ruling on it, if the Father (wali) disagrees because of a such things you can get a Imaam etc...

    But will this not hurt ties of kinship?

    I know culture can be a beautiful thing but honestly I see very little of that beauty the rest is just negativity that holds a man back. I know we went over this but its frustrating.

    I'd like to add on something, would it not be problematic for a Sister specifically to go back home and marry instead of finding someone here?( which the only option in this situation 95% has to be outside of culture)
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    It happens sometimes, but parents can be a big obstacle. You just have to convince them that you are marrying the right person for you. But if the parents are not religious, they won't care and might argue in terms of culture, status, or money issues.

    Parents do have a point in the sense that a marriage is a union between two families, so they should get along, but unless they totally speak different languages, that shouldn't be an issue.

    It is generally not advised to marry against a parent's will, unless the parents are insisting you marry someone who is not a suitable match or not religious at all, then they can be politely ignored. But of course the consequences are a rough early start to marriage since it's supposed to be a happy celebration and union of two families.

    Have an honest and polite discussion with the parents and understand what is it exactly they are afraid of "losing" in their culture and try to negotiate a compromise or collaboration. You can PM me for details.

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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
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    وَامَّا يَنزَغَنَّكَ مِنْ الشَّيْطَنِ نَزْغٌ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ انَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ

    (Qur'an 7:200)

    Not the exact phrase, but the same words in a different order i.e. "If Satan assails thee, seek refuge in God" as opposed to "I seek refuge in God from Satan"

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    So then why do we say it the way we say it as opposed to what's written in the Qur'an?
    Was it taught by the prophet (pbuh) and can this be verified with hadith?
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    So then why do we say it the way we say it as opposed to what's written in the Qur'an?
    Was it taught by the prophet (pbuh) and can this be verified with hadith?
    Because of grammar. If you just repeat what the verse says, you are just quoting a statement that says "if Satan bothers you, seek refuge in God". That's the command. You need to form the sentence which says "I seek refuge in God from Satan".
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
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    It happens sometimes, but parents can be a big obstacle. You just have to convince them that you are marrying the right person for you. But if the parents are not religious, they won't care and might argue in terms of culture, status, or money issues.

    Parents do have a point in the sense that a marriage is a union between two families, so they should get along, but unless they totally speak different languages, that shouldn't be an issue.

    It is generally not advised to marry against a parent's will, unless the parents are insisting you marry someone who is not a suitable match or not religious at all, then they can be politely ignored. But of course the consequences are a rough early start to marriage since it's supposed to be a happy celebration and union of two families.

    Have an honest and polite discussion with the parents and understand what is it exactly they are afraid of "losing" in their culture and try to negotiate a compromise or collaboration. You can PM me for details.

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    Bro i've seen some extremely smart people say stupid things like "i'll only marry my daughter to a doctor." How do you deal with those type of people? As if other professions aren't respectable and doctors are geniuses above all.
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    Because of grammar. If you just repeat what the verse says, you are just quoting a statement that says "if Satan bothers you, seek refuge in God". That's the command. You need to form the sentence which says "I seek refuge in God from Satan".
    Ok.
    Is Sanaa (Audo Billahi.... is called Sanaa, right?) obligatory to recite in prayer or just a sunnah? When i'm starting the Rakaat i recite Sanaa and Bismillah, then Surah Fatiha.
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    Originally Posted by chashma1 View Post
    Bro i've seen some extremely smart people say stupid things like "i'll only marry my daughter to a doctor." How do you deal with those type of people? As if other professions aren't respectable and doctors are geniuses above all.
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    What about engineers?!

    I think what they probably mean is, the husband needs to be rich. That's a tough criteria to meet for young husbands anyway. There's nothing wrong with asking that the husband is at least as well-off as the wife's family so there aren't social tensions, but I don't think it's a fair criteria for marriage.

    The most important criterion is religion. There are plenty of dirt-bag doctors.

    You have to talk through the logic of parents and convince them that they're looking for the wrong qualities in a person. What if a rich doctor dies tomorrow or loses the ability to practice? Now what are you left with in a husband?

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    salam SK, we always have questions for you so im wondering if you could meet any top scholar(whoever that might be), what 2 or 3 questions would you ask him?

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    Originally Posted by chashma1 View Post
    Ok.
    Is Sanaa (Audo Billahi.... is called Sanaa, right?) obligatory to recite in prayer or just a sunnah? When i'm starting the Rakaat i recite Sanaa and Bismillah, then Surah Fatiha.
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    Audu billahi is called isti'aza, that means seeking refuge in God from Satan.

    "Thanaa" aka "Istiftah" is the initial dua of praise to God before prayer. Both are sunnah.

    http://www.shafiifiqh.com/maktabah/r...ftraveller.pdf

    Starting section f8.7 you see what is obligatory and what is sunnah in prayer.

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    Originally Posted by mstrwaheed View Post
    salam SK, we always have questions for you so im wondering if you could meet any top scholar(whoever that might be), what 2 or 3 questions would you ask him?
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    I always make a habit of asking scholars, pious people, and old people for gems of advice; I recommend you do the same.

    Most of the time the advice is straightforward. I ask, what do you advise me to do in these times? Some responses:

    1) Worship God as if you see Him
    2) Don't waste your time in fruitless arguments
    3) Be gentle with people
    4) Learn as much as you can about the religion before knowledge is lifted and you will have noone to ask
    5) Pray as much as you can at night
    6) Ask God for help in all matters
    7) Be convinced that you will never become poor from giving too much charity

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    Salam SK. Does islam help you with your bodybuilding goals or vice versa. I'm sure theirs some similarities in both since both require strict discipline to be successful. Any other similarities you have found and what makes lifting so important to you?

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    SK,

    What would you say to someone who lives everyday with the fear of God's punishment? I mean, to an "unhealthy" level of actual, literal fear? ie: Person does/says something they feel is wrong ---> "Oh no! God will punish me!". Commits to never do/say those things again, yet repeats them ----> "Oh no! This time God will punish me! My future life/works will be ruined now!". Rinse and repeat to the point where it's getting out of hand.
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    Originally Posted by UsernameTaken View Post
    SK,

    What would you say to someone who lives everyday with the fear of God's punishment? I mean, to an "unhealthy" level of actual, literal fear? ie: Person does/says something they feel is wrong ---> "Oh no! God will punish me!". Commits to never do/say those things again, yet repeats them ----> "Oh no! This time God will punish me! My future life/works will be ruined now!". Rinse and repeat to the point where it's getting out of hand.
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    Whoever has poor expectations of God i.e. that God will not be merciful with him, will be delivered to those poor expectations. Rather, it is part of faith to always have the best expectations of God and His Mercy.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post505048281

    In fact, Ghazali (may God reward him) wrote a great book exactly about this, called "The book of fear and hope" because a believer should always be between fear of his sins but hope in God's mercy.

    http://www.sunnipath.com/library/books/B0010P0000.aspx

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    Originally Posted by mstrwaheed View Post
    Salam SK. Does islam help you with your bodybuilding goals or vice versa. I'm sure theirs some similarities in both since both require strict discipline to be successful. Any other similarities you have found and what makes lifting so important to you?
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    Islam teaches us that all success comes from God. So even in physical training, you can achieve much more by asking God for help and recognizing that success is due to God as opposed to assuming that success is purely a function of our own efforts. We achieve far more than we would otherwise be capable of doing by our own merits when we ask for God's help.

    The Prophet (pbuh) said:

    One must beg his Lord to fulfill his every need, may it even be for salt or his broken shoe lace." (Tirmithi Hadith #3536)

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    My friend told me that Islam was, ironically, a Jewish creation. Is this true, or is he spewing garbage out of his ass?

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    Originally Posted by Cheezerman View Post
    My friend told me that Islam was, ironically, a Jewish creation. Is this true, or is he spewing garbage out of his ass?
    Should've asked him, "how"? lol
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    Originally Posted by Cheezerman View Post
    My friend told me that Islam was, ironically, a Jewish creation. Is this true, or is he spewing garbage out of his ass?
    That's an old but baseless accusation.

    http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Qur...es/BBwise.html

    From:

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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    Oh wow, didn't know there's actually a polemic like this.
    Will read later.
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    As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
    Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
    Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim


    There's a difference of opinion on whether the Caliph must be from Quraysh or recommended to be from Quraysh, all other criteria fulfilled.

    One of the reasons why Abu Bakr (may God be pleased with him) was selected as the first Caliph, as opposed to the other candidates of the Ansar (people of Madina) is that he was Qurayshi while the Ansar were not.

    http://www.schiiten.com/backup/Ahlel...-rebuttal.html

    http://www.schiiten.com/backup/Ahlel...y/saqifah.html

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    Thats fine akhee, but i haven't got any convincing answer yet, for the question that, what special significance does it have when Prophet Said that Caliphs will be from Quraysh. What sort of Khaliphs were being talked about? Since we know that there were caliphs outside Quraysh too.

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    Salaam all;

    Brother SK:
    How do you answer people who say, "why does an all powerful God need to even say the word Kun (be) for something to happen?"
    You just keep pushing. You just keep pushing. I made every mistake that could be made. But I just kept pushing.

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