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    Originally Posted by hockeytownfan View Post
    1. Montana
    2. Elway
    3. Brady

    I honestly see Brady pulling a Dan Marino for the rest of his career. He's still great, just not the GOAT.
    Montana clearly #1, but why Elway over Brady???
    Elway 2-3 in the SB, Brady 3-2
    Elway 14-8 and Brady 17-7 in playoffs
    Elway 79.9 rating, brady 89

    People seem to remember his end of career wins and discount earlier failures
    Not to mention that T. Davis was HUGE in his wins.
    Brady much better winning % and rating in regular season too
    Just saying
    I am willing to hear other arguments for #2 but would put Tom ahead of Elway
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    Montana clearly #1, but why Elway over Brady???
    Elway 2-3 in the SB, Brady 3-2
    Elway 14-8 and Brady 17-7 in playoffs
    Elway 79.9 rating, brady 89

    People seem to remember his end of career wins and discount earlier failures
    Not to mention that T. Davis was HUGE in his wins.
    Brady much better winning % and rating in regular season too
    Just saying
    I am willing to hear other arguments for #2 but would put Tom ahead of Elway
    I'm not a stat junkie, I put Elway over Tom from simply watching them play. Elway just seemed to read defenses better and give away less on the PSR. Not to mention the clutch play, and scoring touchdowns like nothing in the last two minutes of games. The numbers certainly seem to place Tom ahead of John though.

    It kind of seems like this whole "elite qb" thing. That's the "clean foods" of football. Everybody has their definition of elite qb and for GOAT. At least GOAT has metrics most people will agree on.
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    Originally Posted by hockeytownfan View Post
    I'm not a stat junkie, I put Elway over Tom from simply watching them play. Elway just seemed to read defenses better and give away less on the PSR. Not to mention the clutch play, and scoring touchdowns like nothing in the last two minutes of games. The numbers certainly seem to place Tom ahead of John though.

    It kind of seems like this whole "elite qb" thing. That's the "clean foods" of football. Everybody has their definition of elite qb and for GOAT. At least GOAT has metrics most people will agree on.
    At the 3 positions everyone cares most about (QB, RB, WR) I think the GOATs are set in stone
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    At the 3 positions everyone cares most about (QB, RB, WR) I think the GOATs are set in stone
    Joe
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    Jerry

    At least for now
    I'd agree with this. Could have possibly been different at RB if Barry stuck around longer.
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    Originally Posted by hockeytownfan View Post
    I'd agree with this. Could have possibly been different at RB if Barry stuck around longer.
    Barry #2 on my list
    Fun to watch but Jim Brown was just a man amongst boys.
    Not sure who would put 2 at WR


    Also was thinking about how no player had more on the line in terms of contract than Joe
    No coach's rep on the line more than Jim H
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    Agree on Brady ahea of Elway. Next two weeks suck sports wise
    Sports suck until march madness
    Then after that baseball is like watching paint dry

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    Elway second greatest QB of all time? I might not even put him in the top ten. Maybe.
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    Elway second greatest QB of all time? I might not even put him in the top ten. Maybe.
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    Do you even football?
    OK, maybe saying he's not top ten is a stretch.

    In no particular order, here are some guys you could definitely make a case for ranking ahead of Elway:

    Montana
    Brady
    Unitas
    Staubach
    Graham

    I'm by no means saying Elway wasn't awesome - he was.
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    im not a huge fan of comparing/ranking quarterbacks from different eras. there are far too many differences in how the game is/was played
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    im not a huge fan of comparing/ranking quarterbacks from different eras. there are far too many differences in how the game is/was played
    Not bad insight for a chick. I agree. Game is totally dofferent from when Unitas played. Even pretty diff from when Montana/Elway etc played
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    im not a huge fan of comparing/ranking quarterbacks from different eras. there are far too many differences in how the game is/was played
    1985. Tackling a QB is normal.

    New rule for 2013 season. 5 Yard penalty for looking at a QB in a manner which suggests you want to tackle them.
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    1985. Tackling a QB is normal.

    New rule for 2013 season. 5 Yard penalty for looking at a QB in a manner which suggests you want to tackle them.
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    Elway second greatest QB of all time? I might not even put him in the top ten. Maybe.
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    Originally Posted by Linzzz View Post
    im not a huge fan of comparing/ranking quarterbacks from different eras. there are far too many differences in how the game is/was played
    completely agree
    separate averyone after 1980-85 from prior to that
    pretty seeon based on rule changes we probably need to separate post 2000 and on
    Just look at the WR numbers
    all the top guys other than Rice will be current guys
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    1. SB should either be moved to Saturday night or make Monday a national holiday. Agree?Make president's day the day after or something. I have to imagine work productivity is at an all time low anyways.

    2. I am not going to go as far as to say the Pistol is a fad like the Wildcat but I do think the succes tim e period will be limited compared to more conventional offenses.
    a. Finding someone skilled enough to run it is too hard.
    b. Someone will find a defense to scheme against it
    c. teams will start drafting/developing certain types of players to defend againstit
    d. Keeping the qb healthy enough for an enitre season year after year wont be sustainable
    e. Such quarterbacks will have shorter careers and their declining athleticism will affect their success much faster than a protoype qb.
    There is a better chance of CK, RB3 or Manzel ending up in a wheelchair by the time they are early 30s then being a star. Manning/Brady still were the best in the league into their mid to late 30s now.
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    ^you are confusing the pistol with the read option. The pistol just refers to a back behind the QB in gun it's a formation not a play
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    ^you are confusing the pistol with the read option. The pistol just refers to a back behind the QB in gun it's a formation not a play
    shorter snap distance as well
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