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    Originally Posted by Dre4 View Post
    I'm going for Te'o. I have a feeling a bunch of old timer voters will give him the edge.
    He's had a great season, but Manziel has produced stupid numbers, led his team to a great record in their first season in the SEC, and beat Bama. I feel like Te'o is a great player and guy, but I think it'll be a robbery if Manziel doesn't get it
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    Originally Posted by Lvisaa2 View Post
    He's had a great season, but Manziel has produced stupid numbers, led his team to a great record in their first season in the SEC, and beat Bama. I feel like Te'o is a great player and guy, but I think it'll be a robbery if Manziel doesn't get it
    Tough to say.. it really is, can go either way. I am a diehard ND fan, but a freshman QB to pass for 3K and run for 1K in his first season is remarkable.
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Tough to say.. it really is, can go either way. I am a diehard ND fan, but a freshman QB to pass for 3K and run for 1K in his first season is remarkable.
    Yeah. At the end of the day, it's going to depend on the demographics of the voters. Old school=Te'o, new school=J.F.
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    Originally Posted by Dre4 View Post
    Yeah. At the end of the day, it's going to depend on the demographics of the voters. Old school=Te'o, new school=J.F.
    Why?
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    Originally Posted by Lvisaa2 View Post
    Why?
    Old timer's will always favor a guy from ND and hold the fact that JF is a frosh against him. Younger generation voters, would likely not hold this bias.
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    Originally Posted by Dre4 View Post
    Old timer's will always favor a guy from ND and hold the fact that JF is a frosh against him. Younger generation voters, would likely not hold this bias.
    Agree in part. That has been the trend in past and that it's usually best player on best team. Last year that rightly far it to rg3 which makes ms think Manziel will get it.

    Am I the I only one that hates his nickname?
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    Originally Posted by Dre4 View Post
    Old timer's will always favor a guy from ND and hold the fact that JF is a frosh against him. Younger generation voters, would likely not hold this bias.
    I'm not entirely familiar with the division, but wouldn't old school voters also appreciate hard, basic stats - which would favor Manziel? I guess I'm comparing it to old school/new school baseball voters. Basic stats vs metrics
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    Agree in part. That has been the trend in past and that it's usually best player on best team. Last year that rightly far it to rg3 which makes ms think Manziel will get it.

    Am I the I only one that hates his nickname?
    Pretty much. Was real happy to see RG3 win it, he deserved it.

    I also think the Johnny Football nickname is stupid, even though I'm guilty of using it.

    Originally Posted by Lvisaa2 View Post
    I'm not entirely familiar with the division, but wouldn't old school voters also appreciate hard, basic stats - which would favor Manziel? I guess I'm comparing it to old school/new school baseball voters. Basic stats vs metrics
    You could argue that. However, imo the ND affiliation would outweigh the stats in the old timer's eyes. Should that happen? Absolutely not, that's not fair to Manziel, but I have a gut feeling it could.

    I wouldn't mind seeing either guy win it in the end, but I can't help pulling for Te'o for his character (not saying Manziel's a bad guy).
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    IMO if Ndamkun(sp) Suh didn't win the Heisman no D player should. He is the most dominating college player I've ever seem on D. Period
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    IMO if Ndamkun(sp) Suh didn't win the Heisman no D player should. He is the most dominating college player I've ever seem on D. Period
    Your trying to compare a Defensive Lineman, to a linebacker,

    how about the Corner that won the heisman compared to Manti? Honestly its just about who wants to vote who.. it can go ANYWHERE.
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Your trying to compare a Defensive Lineman, to a linebacker,

    how about the Corner that won the heisman compared to Manti? Honestly its just about who wants to vote who.. it can go ANYWHERE.
    Woodson was also a returner and played some snaps at WR at Michigan.
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    Originally Posted by Dre4 View Post
    Woodson was also a returner and played some snaps at WR at Michigan.
    This. Woodson scored. He had the ball in his hands. I like Teo but ND has the best front 7 in college football. There are other NFL lbs on that team. Manziel is the best player in football this year.

    My point was Suh dominated and took over games to a whole new level and still didn't win. He deserved it. Hard for a defensive player that doesn't return to win.
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Well too bad hes coming back for his Senior year and already declared it, so putting him on that board means nothing....
    Lol. Well too bad he's a senior mr super nd fan. This was his year he came back. He will be a top 5 pick for sure
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    Lol. Well too bad he's a senior mr super nd fan. This was his year he came back. He will be a top 5 pick for sure
    Hopefully the Raiders keep the tank job up so they can snatch him up.
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    Manzel was very gracious tonight and humble in all his interviews leading up to the announcement tonight.
    I am happy for him.

    Watched the Army Navy game and have almost never felt so bad for a losing team and their quarterback.
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    Manzel was very gracious tonight and humble in all his interviews leading up to the announcement tonight.
    I am happy for him.

    Watched the Army Navy game and have almost never felt so bad for a losing team and their quarterback.



    Ugh. I'm the only army guy in my section and I'm enlisted. I work with 9 navy officers and 1 Air Force officer.

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    Originally Posted by miacanesfan25 View Post
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    Ugh. I'm the only army guy in my section and I'm enlisted. I work with 9 navy officers and 1 Air Force officer.

    This is going to be a long week.
    Actually, you won't have to worry about the bold since AFA lost to Navy and Army. So if the AF guy talks **** you can fight back lol.
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    Originally Posted by 2445ricardo View Post
    LAD has more than doubled their payroll since the start of last season
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    LAD has more than doubled their payroll since the start of last season
    It's scary to think of how large teams' salary caps will be 10 years from now if the league doesn't step in.
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    Lol, pacquiao, lol. So much for fighting Mayweather.
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    Originally Posted by miacanesfan25 View Post
    Lol, pacquiao, lol. So much for fighting Mayweather.
    And there wont be any talk about anyone throwing the fight with the shot he took.
    If only these things were on non pat per view, if only.

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    -If ColinK can bounceback and justify Harbough's decision
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    And there wont be any talk about anyone throwing the fight with the shot he took.
    If only these things were on non pat per view, if only.

    Week 14 Preview
    -Who is the best team in the league? NE vs Hou on MNF
    NE should get the job done. Brady is far more experienced and clutch compared to Shaub.
    -Will Sanchez get benched again?
    [b]Is Teblow active? If so, he'll be starting the 2nd half if they aren't beating the sorry jaguars team at the half.
    -Big Bens return and the Steelers playoff chances
    They'll win out with Ben back.
    -If Dallas can overcome their circumstances with 1 player death and the other in prison.
    They'll overcome, but won't pass the skins or giants. Especially considering I'm confident the giants will be beat the saints and keep the skins at bay.
    -If ColinK can bounceback and justify Harbough's decision
    Yes. But, it won't be enough. I see Smith taking back over sooner than later and leading them into the playoffs. Colin is the future, but not yet.
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    ^^
    SF should but wont go back to SmithHarbough tseems too locked in on developing his own gy looking at how fast he ditched Smith who had the 3rd best Rating when he went out
    If he were to bring him back and succeed, Jim would have to stick w. him going forward, which he doesnt want
    Or smith doesn't succeed sF gets eliminated early which Harbough doesnt want
    The only win-win scenario is winning with Colin (in Harbough's eyes)
    Sorta the same reason as Rex not even giving Tebow a chance
    Huge mistake IMO. SF has a chance to win it THIS year and if that is a reality it should never be passed up.
    But if you hear the reports, Smith is handling it like a world class pro. Even helping Colin when he comes to the sidelines and giving him pointers.
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    lol @ the dodgers making yankees look poverty time. would bet everything i have that they still don't win a title though
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    Big Ben is back.. lets hope its not for a stupid cause..
    Batch played well last week vs Baltimore why not start him again against San Diego?
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    Smith is done in SF barring injury. Youcant go back to him at this point
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    RG3 goes down.

    Thrilling 4th quarters.

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