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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    Cruz, Arod, Colon, melky on PEDs?
    Not surprised.
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    Lol @ everyone being surprised that professional athletes use PEDs. Naivety is bliss
    what?
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    what?
    ... It was a sports thought of the day. I didn't quote you for a reason. It wasn't about you.
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    So...

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    Im going with the Ravens, as much as i am a Steeler fan, i think their Defense will prevail in the end.
    27-21 Ravens.

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    Sadly, Celtics are slowly falling apart, with Allen gone, and now Rondo gone, the team is at rock-bottom..
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    Originally Posted by Verint View Post
    Sadly, Celtics are slowly falling apart, with Allen gone, and now Rondo gone, the team is at rock-bottom..
    They just beat the champs..

    I agree though. They've just gotten too old and injuries may keep them out of the playoffs. Inb4firesale
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    Originally Posted by PhiSig2298 View Post
    They just beat the champs..

    I agree though. They've just gotten too old and injuries may keep them out of the playoffs. Inb4firesale
    Although they still hold the title for most Championships, its obvious they are going downhill. Rondo being out now is the final straw, and I really don't see them getting into the playoffs right now. Of course I'm hoping I will be proved wrong lol
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    Originally Posted by PhiSig2298 View Post
    They just beat the champs..

    I agree though. They've just gotten too old and injuries may keep them out of the playoffs. Inb4firesale
    They were struggling to make the playoffs before the injury.
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    Although they still hold the title for most Championships, its obvious they are going downhill. Rondo being out now is the final straw, and I really don't see them getting into the playoffs right now. Of course I'm hoping I will be proved wrong lol
    Their championships are based more on what they did at the end of the 50s and through the sixties. They took a few in 70s and had a strong 80s, but since then they have 2. They were largely irrelevant after Bird up until the past 5-6 years.
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Im going with the Ravens, as much as i am a Steeler fan, i think their Defense will prevail in the end.
    27-21 Ravens.

    Flacco is on a roll right now.
    Flacco has played lights out in the playoffs historically. This year, being one of the best performances yet. Some of the stats they are throwing around for this post-season alone put him in the company of Joe Montana, Steve Young, etc.

    If he just does what he's done the past few weeks, I think they will be tough to beat given the emotional high the defense is on with the Ray Lewis situation.

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    Originally Posted by Verint View Post
    Sadly, Celtics are slowly falling apart, with Allen gone, and now Rondo gone, the team is at rock-bottom..
    Wouldn't say rock bottom but the window's up for now. Also building a team around rondo is the primary piece is a mistake
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    Anyone else see Randy Moss stating he is the best receiver ever? oh lawl....

    They compared his stats with Jerry Rice and its not even close as far as stats go.
    Receptions, Yards, TD moss is crushed by Rice
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Anyone else see Randy Moss stating he is the best receiver ever? oh lawl....

    They compared his stats with Jerry Rice and its not even close as far as stats go.
    Receptions, Yards, TD moss is crushed by Rice
    I can't believe he said that with a straight face.
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Anyone else see Randy Moss stating he is the best receiver ever? oh lawl....

    They compared his stats with Jerry Rice and its not even close as far as stats go.
    Receptions, Yards, TD moss is crushed by Rice
    I don't think Moss is better but Rice has also played almost a 100 more games than Randy Moss, which is a **** load. Moss averages more touchdowns per game (0.74 vs 0.65) but Rice does average more yards and receptions per game. That aside, longevity is a factor and that's why Rice is so great. Moss just fell off the map so fast. I think he messed up by getting himself out of NE.
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    I would agree that Moss is the most talented receiver of all time but he was a lazy, selfish, scum bag
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    I think Moss had the skill to be the best receiver ever, but the effort wasn't there. He changed the way defenses played, he was such an over the top threat.
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    Originally Posted by jakefurfaro View Post
    I think Moss had the skill to be the best receiver ever, but the effort wasn't there. He changed the way defenses played, he was such an over the top threat.
    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    I would agree that Moss is the most talented receiver of all time but he was a lazy, selfish, scum bag
    CJ has all the skills to be the best wide receiver ever. Unfortunately, the Lions blow donkey dick, so he might never have a ring.

    I also feel bad for Fitzgerald. He has just as much skill as Megatron but he's stuck with the Cardinals.
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    I can't believe he said that with a straight face.
    this
    Originally Posted by PerpetualMotion View Post
    I don't think Moss is better but Rice has also played almost a 100 more games than Randy Moss, which is a **** load. Moss averages more touchdowns per game (0.74 vs 0.65) but Rice does average more yards and receptions per game. That aside, longevity is a factor and that's why Rice is so great. Moss just fell off the map so fast. I think he messed up by getting himself out of NE.
    also consider the era
    far easier to put up stats now
    Originally Posted by jakefurfaro View Post
    I think Moss had the skill to be the best receiver ever, but the effort wasn't there. He changed the way defenses played, he was such an over the top threat.
    not most skill but most athleticism
    Rice had better hands
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    Originally Posted by midcoastking33 View Post
    Wouldn't say rock bottom but the window's up for now. Also building a team around rondo is the primary piece is a mistake
    what part of the US do you live? I live in MA and the talk lately since Rondo wen down is laughable.
    A week or two ago he was god. Now all of a sudden people are saying the team is better off without him cuz they won two in a row.
    They will play better D, move the ball better, shoot better, etc
    Sure Bradley playing ore is better D but most of the additional minutes will go to Terry and Lee who aren't much better defenders
    Move the all better? Doesn't Rondo lead the league in assists? He never takes a bad shot or "hogs the ball" in the least. He is a vastly superior rebounder to any small guard they have. And yes they have better shooters but Rondo (as already stated) doesn't take bad shots and has an insanely high FG% due to taking it to the basket.

    Its funny that I feel like I defend him now when I have thought he was overrated for the last 3 years. But sometimes the fans around here are truly dumb.
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    If anything, I think rondo has been underrated, but living in MA may mean that you get different media. Best old school point guard in the league. Too bad he acts like a 5 year old
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    Originally Posted by Lvisaa2 View Post
    If anything, I think rondo has been underrated, but living in MA may mean that you get different media. Best old school point guard in the league. Too bad he acts like a 5 year old
    More like 3 year old but I agree.

    Itis also shown that pass-first high APG PGs last longer (less diminshment in skill/numbers) than shoot first PGs. (even in recent years)
    And it sorta makes sense: Stockton, Kidd, Billups, Andre Miller, even Nash

    If drafting now:
    1. Paul
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    4. Irving
    5. Deron
    honorable mention: Parker, russ
    rather than AI, Arenas, Marbury, Francis, Baron Davis
    ^^ The reason why I wouldnt trade him for a westbrook-type
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    what part of the US do you live? I live in MA and the talk lately since Rondo wen down is laughable.
    A week or two ago he was god. Now all of a sudden people are saying the team is better off without him cuz they won two in a row.
    They will play better D, move the ball better, shoot better, etc
    Sure Bradley playing ore is better D but most of the additional minutes will go to Terry and Lee who aren't much better defenders
    Move the all better? Doesn't Rondo lead the league in assists? He never takes a bad shot or "hogs the ball" in the least. He is a vastly superior rebounder to any small guard they have. And yes they have better shooters but Rondo (as already stated) doesn't take bad shots and has an insanely high FG% due to taking it to the basket.

    Its funny that I feel like I defend him now when I have thought he was overrated for the last 3 years. But sometimes the fans around here are truly dumb.
    I live in ME. Not saying the team is better off without him, but he's not a superstar nor a franchise cornerstone. The fg% is completely skewed because he can't shoot, hits free throws like dwight howard which makes him a non threat going to the hoop, is prone to injury, attitude problems, and is no longer a great defender. Stats look great, but they're padded: it usually feels he goes out of the way to make sure he gets that triple double rather than going for the correct play
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    -Sounds like Teo's fake gf is just a gay guy

    -Call me ultra competitive but if I am Jim Harbough I am not letting my bro's team use my indoor practice facility becuase the weather isnt great outside. I am using every advantage I have to beat my bro's behind.

    -NFL player poll shows 78% of players dont trust their own medical staff and I don't blame them. HOWEVER< I think if given the chance most of them probably lie to the staff to get back on the field anyways. IMO, any player forced to come off the field for any reason (concussion, knee, muscle tear, whatever) should have to be cleared by their own team and an NFL paid official. No way some1 like RG3 would have been allowed to be out there. Sad to say but the play needs to be protected from themselves. And the les popular/skilled players are more at risk given that they are probably in greater fear of losing their jobs if they cant stay on the field than an RG3 is.

    -One of my fears along with probably most every1 else is that the game becomes too soft due to fear of lack of safety. IMO most hard hit head injuries occur on passing plays (defenseless WRs, QB hits, safety bowups, etC). If the NFL made the league more of a running league again, there would be fewer problems. So, allow more clutch/grab by DBs like they used to. Call more pass block holding. Do things to force teams to want to run the ball more again and there will be fewer problems (still problems but less(.
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