Masstasstic, respond to this article about Kevin Love please

[Tes45]

Fact: Love is averaging 26.5 points and 13.6 rebounds with 45/39/82 shooting splits right now. This seems impossible, I know. I checked five times. It's definitely true.

Fact: Neither Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Charles Barkley, Chris Webber, Larry Bird nor Karl Malone ever averaged 27 points and 13 rebounds per game in the same season.

Fact: Love's low-post game has really turned into something special. He can make 20-foot stepbacks, jump hooks or up-and-unders. He can back guys down and get easy five-footers. He can pull bigger guys away from the hoop and shoot 3s over them. And if you double-team him, he's one of the best low-post passers we have.

Fact: I'm not a giant fan of adjusted plus-minus stats, especially for individual players, but it's worth mentioning that Minnesota averages about 107 points per 100 possessions when Love plays and about 97 points per 100 when he sits (one of the highest discrepancies in the league). Check out this really confusing and über-dorky page for more details.14

Fact: Even after Minnesota's inspiring postseason run was derailed by Kobe pulling a Bernard Pollard on Ricky Rubio's right knee,15 Love simply refused to allow them to stink — and by the way, when the rest of your top eight is Luke Ridnour, JJ Barea, Nik Pekovic, Darko Milicic, Mike Beasley, Martell Webster and Wesley "What Happened to Me????" Johnson, you stink — averaging a Moses-at-his-apex-like 31 and 15 for the month of March. 31 and 15???????? Sorry, I have to swear … ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME???16

Fact: Love sent an Oklahoma City game into overtime two weeks ago by posting up 25 feet from the basket, sealing his guy off, then draining a buzzer-beating stepback 3 that was so blatantly ripped off from Larry Bird that he should have just worn a blond permafro wig. If you're ripping off the Legend successfully, you have my attention.

Fact: Watching Love and Rubio run high screens was my single favorite thing about this season. They were on another level of … everything. It was just sublime. I can't tell you how much I loved it. It was basketball porn. DVDs of Love-Rubio high screens should be edited and handed out at basketball camps with the title, "How to Run High Screens."

Fact: In back-to-back summers, Chris Wallace traded Love's rights for O.J. Mayo's rights17 and drafted Hasheem Thabeet over James Harden and Ricky Rubio … and somehow, Memphis is still my favorite 2012 sleeper. I know, this has nothing to do with Love's MVP campaign. I just didn't know where else to put it in the column. The Love/Mayo swap doesn't get mentioned nearly enough.

Fact: Love rates off the charts on the most crucial MVP question: Would the difference in his team's victory total drop dramatically if you replaced him with a half-decent player all season? The answer? Hell yes. You can't blame Love because he's playing for a .500 team in a stacked conference, or because that team fell out of the playoff race only because its second-best player went down. That's a 13-win team if you flipped him with, say, Brandon Bass. It's true.

*In March, Love became the first player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, rebounding AND made 3s.

[BlueHaze23]

He wont be around until this Saturday. We had a week ban bet on the UK/UL game.

[drock2190]

That guy is a douche. Ignores the facts and hates on most white players.

Edit: link to article?

[Tes45]

That guy is a douche. Ignores the facts and hates on most white players.

Edit: link to article?

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...g-nba-mvp-race

[Be_Easy_25]

i dont get what's to understand.

26 and 13 is enough to lead a mediocre team to the playoffs.
you have to ask yourself why his 26 and 13 is not getting that done.

he is not in 2005 kobe's boat...or even 2008 wade's boat.
derrick williams, beasley, ridnour, barea, martell webbie.....just stop.

if you can't wrap your head around that...then stop arguing with the guy....sheesh...it's not that hard.

his stats arent making his team a winner.
just barely keeping them a float is not good enough to

[sircharles032]

i dont get what's to understand.

26 and 13 is enough to lead a mediocre team to the playoffs.
you have to ask yourself why his 26 and 13 is not getting that done.

he is not in 2005 kobe's boat...or even 2008 wade's boat.
derrick williams, beasley, ridnour, barea, martell webbie.....just stop.

if you can't wrap your head around that...then stop arguing with the guy....sheesh...it's not that hard.

his stats arent making his team a winner.
just barely keeping them a float is not good enough to

Compare his supporting cast to the supporting cast of all the teams ahead of him in the west and then get back to us. Are you saying that Ridnour is a playoff caliber starting SHOOTING GUARD? You mention Barea who is a good bench player... but he's been injured. Two tweeners that play the same position as Love so their minutes are kind of limited in that aspect. Martell Webster, the guy that takes the last second dunk when they need a 3... yeah, that guy...

lmao get the fuk out. You're mad because he ****s on Blake. Get over it.

[Otaman]

i dont get what's to understand.

26 and 13 is enough to lead a mediocre team to the playoffs.
you have to ask yourself why his 26 and 13 is not getting that done.

he is not in 2005 kobe's boat...or even 2008 wade's boat.
derrick williams, beasley, ridnour, barea, martell webbie.....just stop.

if you can't wrap your head around that...then stop arguing with the guy....sheesh...it's not that hard.

his stats arent making his team a winner.
just barely keeping them a float is not good enough to

this

check how many shots he takes to get those 26, and how he fights his own team-mates for rebounds. He is nonexistent on defence too.

stat padding at its finest

[Be_Easy_25]

Compare his supporting cast to the supporting cast of all the teams ahead of him in the west and then get back to us. Are you saying that Ridnour is a playoff caliber starting SHOOTING GUARD? You mention Barea who is a good bench player... but he's been injured. Two tweeners that play the same position as Love so their minutes are kind of limited in that aspect. Martell Webster, the guy that takes the last second dunk when they need a 3... yeah, that guy...

lmao get the fuk out. You're mad because he ****s on Blake. Get over it.

explain to me exactly what him sh*tting on blake has to do with the clippers playing their biggest regular season game tonight or what the clippers are going to do in this year's playoffs?

you win...love's better.
i'm HARDLY bothered/ worried about that at all when it comes to my team...i'll argue that for argument's sake another time...for now...playoffs...collecting wins.


btw...love is in 11th place?
phoenix has a better team?
portland is freakin tanking and they lost to them the other night....solid job guardling lamarcus (lol, he almost fought the guy cuz he cant defend all he can do is throw weight around)
utah has a better supporting cast?....i just saw them in real life on saturday, is this a joke?

denver...arguable...they have some good pieces....but it's debatable.

explain...how exactly...do you build around a kevin love?

[Tes45]

this

check how many shots he takes to get those 26, and how he fights his own team-mates for rebounds. He is nonexistent on defence too.

stat padding at its finest

Takes comparable or better number of shots to anyone who scores around the same level.

Anyone who claims you can "stat pad" for rebounds in the NBA is a god damn idiot.

He's an average defender and the second best rebounder in the league, certainly not non-existent.

[Otaman]

Takes comparable or better number of shots to anyone who scores around the same level.

Anyone who claims you can "stat pad" for rebounds in the NBA is a god damn idiot.

He's an average defender and the second best rebounder in the league, certainly not non-existent.

have you ever seen him play? or are you just looking at his stats? His numbers suggest he is a much better player than he actually is

watch him play, he leaves his defensive assignments and wrestles his own teammates to get those easy boards. His meaningless rebounds actually cost his team buckets

He is gotten a little better at creating his own shot but still struggles at it. And 45% FG for a PF - that's awful. Also 5 threes a game at 36% - that's a little too much.

he puts up good stats but they don't mean anything and very rarely translate into wins. If there was no Adelman that team would be one of the worst in the league now.

When KG was putting up 23/13/6 in Minny 10 years ago , they won 51 games

[Tes45]

have you ever seen him play? or are you just looking at his stats? His numbers suggest he is a much better player than he actually is

watch him play, he leaves his defensive assignments and wrestles his own teammates to get those easy boards. His meaningless rebounds actually cost his team buckets

He is gotten a little better at creating his own shot but still struggles at it. And 45% FG for a PF - that's awful. Also 5 threes a game at 36% - that's a little too much.

he puts up good stats but they don't mean anything and very rarely translate into wins. If there was no Adelman that team would be one of the worst in the league now.

When KG was putting up 23/13/6 in Minny 10 years ago , they won 51 games

A rebound has NEVER cost a team a single point in the history of basketball. I can't believe you just wrote that.

Yes I watch him play, there isn't any point in arguing about this with someone who doesn't understand basketball and just writes random pointless crap based on what he "feels" about what he sees. Basketball is a team sport. Kevin Love is the only above average NBA player on his entire team right now. When he had ONE other above average player, the team was in a playoff spot.

If Love had gotten injured instead of Rubio, Minnesota would already be 10 games out of the playoffs. Garnett's teams won a few more games because they were better teams, not like they ever amounted to **** anyway.


And you're just blatantly writing false **** to try and make your drivel sound believable too. Love is shooting 38.7% from 3 this season. That's less than 1% lower than Reggie Miller and Ray Allen's career averages as a FUKING PF.

lol at you trying to act like that's a problem and not a HUGE ADVANTAGE for his teams offense.

[sups31]

inb4 he is irate

[jimbogr]

Takes comparable or better number of shots to anyone who scores around the same level.

Anyone who claims you can "stat pad" for rebounds in the NBA is a god damn idiot.

He's an average defender and the second best rebounder in the league, certainly not non-existent.

No.

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[Tes45]

No.

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You're exactly the "never played competitive basketball in his life" type of idiot I was referring too.

[jimbogr]

You're exactly the "never played competitive basketball in his life" type of idiot I was referring too.

You're exactly the "didn't go to UF but still rep them in my sig because I'm white trash" type of idiot I was referring to.

[Be_Easy_25]

You're exactly the "didn't go to UF but still rep them in my sig because I'm white trash" type of idiot I was referring to.

lol, that was funny

[Otaman]

A rebound has NEVER cost a team a single point in the history of basketball. I can't believe you just wrote that.

Yes I watch him play, there isn't any point in arguing about this with someone who doesn't understand basketball and just writes random pointless crap based on what he "feels" about what he sees. Basketball is a team sport. Kevin Love is the only above average NBA player on his entire team right now. When he had ONE other above average player, the team was in a playoff spot.

If Love had gotten injured instead of Rubio, Minnesota would already be 10 games out of the playoffs. Garnett's teams won a few more games because they were better teams, not like they ever amounted to **** anyway.


And you're just blatantly writing false **** to try and make your drivel sound believable too. Love is shooting 38.7% from 3 this season. That's less than 1% lower than Reggie Miller and Ray Allen's career averages as a FUKING PF.

lol at you trying to act like that's a problem and not a HUGE ADVANTAGE for his teams offense.

that's exactly what you are bud. My God every sentence you first sound incredibly irate and second show how little basketball you actually watch.

take a chill pill bro, feels like you're going to explode the more you post

"A rebound has NEVER cost a team a single point in the history of basketball" hurr durr but leaving defensive assignments does.

and check out Love's performance in tonight's game against warriors - great D and great 3 point shooting

[dtbrehm]

Fact: Kevin Love has never won more than 30 games in a season.

[sircharles032]

If you replaced Blake Griffin with Kevin Love would the Clippers stilll be a top team in the West?

Or if we put Blake on the Wolves would they make the playoffs? He who has no offensive arsenal except spinmove dunk

[InsanePain11]

Takes comparable or better number of shots to anyone who scores around the same level.

Anyone who claims you can "stat pad" for rebounds in the NBA is a god damn idiot.

He's an average defender and the second best rebounder in the league, certainly not non-existent.

This, although he's arguably the best rebounder. Has the best rebounding technique in the league. He brings it every night and works hard. People claiming stad padding are idiots, he has to take shots and carry that team because he doesn't have much help from the backcourt.

[InsanePain11]

If you replaced Blake Griffin with Kevin Love would the Clippers stilll be a top team in the West?

Clipps would be a little better, no doubt.

[gswarrior510]

lol lost to warriors tanking while Lee matched Love's output

Love=Lee with a 3 point shot

[Alciza]

Masstastic is actually one of the smartest posters in this section when it comes to basketball....He just a douche about it

[jkeithc82]

No.

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F*ck jimbo everytime I see you post you're a different color. Green, red, green, red, wtf?

[Tes45]

Why doesn't Kris Humphries just stat pad like Kevin Love to get himself a max contract?

[55]

Doesn't mean **** if your team can't win games.

[thefederalist]

As long as Lebron is putting up 27, 7, 8, idgaf.

[InsanePain11]

lol lost to warriors tanking while Lee matched Love's output

Love=Lee with a 3 point shot

Love is better than Lee in pretty much every aspect of the game. And way to laugh at your team phaggot.

[sdballer5588]

Loves a bad shooter. Serious.

Look up his hoopdata stats, everywhere on the floor except the rim and 3 pointers is sub 40. He's a great rebounder.

[gswarrior510]

Love is better than Lee in pretty much every aspect of the game. And way to laugh at your team phaggot.

they suck duh

brb 2 best players are out.