*Fantasy Baseball Think Tank*

[newtmiscer]

he declined that. countered with Konerko + Joe Nathan for Rodney/Doubront/Harper or Upton - I'd prob give him harper. thoughts?

i just dont see this trade working. He doesnt need SP (or really RP) enough to justify losing Konerko, and you have no long term use for more corner infielders. Im in a similar way in one of my leagues, I have Texiera, Michael Young, Matt Adams, Mike Moustakas, Michael Cuddyer (in the OF), Ryan Howard on my DL and Rizzo waiting for the callup

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[j_to_the]

That's a strong assumption of not improving much throughout the year. We're hardly a quarter through the year. His current whip is already at 1.46 and it's only going to get better. Plus he'll have 200+ strikeouts, 12+ wins. I think thats just as valuable as 40 hr's, 120 rbi's because Dunn will kill your average. I'm a big Rays fan/Moore fan so we'll see. I actually own both so I hope both do well.

dude. stop.. you don't draft Dunn for his average. and if you think a mediocre Moore (he's young - lets give him time) and his medicore 12 wins, 3.75 ERA, and 1.35 WHIP who throws every 5th day with a potential for an innings cap is of equal value of 40 HRs and 120 RBIs from a hitter player every day - you are sadly mistaken.. hell, Moore is only owned in 85% of ESPN leagues. Give me Dunn all day errrrrday.

[lefthandedstraw]

FUUuu owning Zobrist is starting to really rustle my jimmies, another 0-4 day, sigh.

[GForce78NJ]

FUUuu owning Zobrist is starting to really rustle my jimmies, another 0-4 day, sigh.

repped for "rustle my jimmies"

[illmatic2211]

dude. stop.. you don't draft Dunn for his average. and if you think a mediocre Moore (he's young - lets give him time) and his medicore 12 wins, 3.75 ERA, and 1.35 WHIP who throws every 5th day with a potential for an innings cap is of equal value of 40 HRs and 120 RBIs from a hitter player every day - you are sadly mistaken.. hell, Moore is only owned in 85% of ESPN leagues. Give me Dunn all day errrrrday.

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[thefullmonte]

repped for "rustle my jimmies"

Did you rep the other 30 thousand people on here using that phrase too? Or just the ones with 50K+ rep power?

[fsuboy1411]

dude. stop.. you don't draft Dunn for his average. and if you think a mediocre Moore (he's young - lets give him time) and his medicore 12 wins, 3.75 ERA, and 1.35 WHIP who throws every 5th day with a potential for an innings cap is of equal value of 40 HRs and 120 RBIs from a hitter player every day - you are sadly mistaken.. hell, Moore is only owned in 85% of ESPN leagues. Give me Dunn all day errrrrday.

1) What does that mean, he pitches every 5th day? As if that somehow diminishes his value. In standard leagues there's ERA, WHIP, K'S, AND W'S. That's 4 categories coming from mainly STARTING pitchers. They are just as valuable than any position player.

2) Dunn ain't hitting 120 rbi's. That was hyperbole on my part he's never hit above 106 rbi's in his career, and i doubt he's going for a career year here when he barely hit 160 last year

3) There will be no innings cap on Moore when he's hurling at the end of the year and the Rays are in playoffs contention like they ALWAYS ARE. Moore is known for his slow starts. The guy mowed down the top offense in the league during the playoffs last year TWICE.

He's owned in only 85% of espn leagues? What does that even mean? That 15% of people that play in those leagues are dumb as **** and baseball illiterate?

Moore will be a stud come years end.

4) go **** yourself

[The_Albatross]

1) What does that mean, he pitches every 5th day? As if that somehow diminishes his value. In standard leagues there's ERA, WHIP, K'S, AND W'S. That's 4 categories coming from mainly STARTING pitchers. They are just as valuable than any position player.

2) Dunn ain't hitting 120 rbi's. That was hyperbole on my part he's never hit above 106 rbi's in his career, and i doubt he's going for a career year here when he barely hit 160 last year

3) There will be no innings cap on Moore when he's hurling at the end of the year and the Rays are in playoffs contention like they ALWAYS ARE. Moore is known for his slow starts. The guy mowed down the top offense in the league during the playoffs last year TWICE.

He's owned in only 85% of espn leagues? What does that even mean? That 15% of people that play in those leagues are dumb as **** and baseball illiterate?

Moore will be a stud come years end.

4) go **** yourself

Starting pitchers are not as valuable as hitters in standard head 2 head leagues.

[ZailZ]

Starting pitchers are not as valuable as hitters in standard head 2 head leagues.

This. Only takes couple of starters and relievers to blow up and you are ****ed for the week.

[newtmiscer]

1) What does that mean, he pitches every 5th day? As if that somehow diminishes his value. In standard leagues there's ERA, WHIP, K'S, AND W'S. That's 4 categories coming from mainly STARTING pitchers. They are just as valuable than any position player.

2) Dunn ain't hitting 120 rbi's. That was hyperbole on my part he's never hit above 106 rbi's in his career, and i doubt he's going for a career year here when he barely hit 160 last year

3) There will be no innings cap on Moore when he's hurling at the end of the year and the Rays are in playoffs contention like they ALWAYS ARE. Moore is known for his slow starts. The guy mowed down the top offense in the league during the playoffs last year TWICE.

He's owned in only 85% of espn leagues? What does that even mean? That 15% of people that play in those leagues are dumb as **** and baseball illiterate?

Moore will be a stud come years end.

4) go **** yourself

Dunn's OBP is .387 umad?

[LostOne287]

What's your guys' thoughts on Omar Infante? Breakout season or fluke?

[The_Albatross]

Dunn's OBP is .387 umad?

Pretty sure these guys play using AVG instead of OBP as a category, otherwise this argument would be already even more lopsided than it already is.

[fsuboy1411]

Starting pitchers are not as valuable as hitters in standard head 2 head leagues.

Great argument you brought to the table.

[The_Albatross]

Great argument you brought to the table.

If this isn't obvious to you, you're doing it wrong.

Let's look at some rankings:

http://www.baseballdocs.com/overall_rankings.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/ba...ay2012ranks250

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/mlb/...season1-top100

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fan...ankings/top300

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ngs/index.html

Do you see a pitcher ranked in 1st in any of those? No. Outside of cbs rankings, you'll struggle to find more than 1 pitcher within the top 10 or 15. Why is this? Why do the hitters outnumber pitchers within the top 50, the top 100, the top 200, the top 300?

If you still can't see this, open your leagues player rater. Who is in the top 10? My guess is its all hitters, with Gonzalez and Verlander and Hamels being among the top ranked pitchers.

[drock2190]

What's your guys' thoughts on Omar Infante? Breakout season or fluke?

If I am an Omar Infante owner, I would be holding on to him. His plate discipline has improved and he isn't chasing as many pitches. Selling high won't get you much IMO because he won't bring much of a return but I think he can maintain this pace. His BABIP is a little high but it's not unsustainable.

[drock2190]

Have to drop an Outfielder. Reps for advice who to drop. 8 team league

Chris Young
Mike Trout
Matt Joyce
Dexter Fowler
Shin Soo-Choo
Michael Morse

[lefthandedstraw]

What's your guys' thoughts on Omar Infante? Breakout season or fluke?

I hope you didn't blow your waiver position to acquire him since your M's are expected to call up S. Pryor today.

[LostOne287]

I hope you didn't blow your waiver position to acquire him since your M's are expected to call up S. Pryor today.

Lol. Better a guy who's been raking all year then a guy who's on the dl half the time

[MooseLaddin]

Have to drop an Outfielder. Reps for advice who to drop. 8 team league

Chris Young
Mike Trout
Matt Joyce
Dexter Fowler
Shin Soo-Choo
Michael Morse

Choo Choo train for sure

[ZailZ]

Have to drop an Outfielder. Reps for advice who to drop. 8 team league

Chris Young
Mike Trout
Matt Joyce
Dexter Fowler
Shin Soo-Choo
Michael Morse

I'd drop Joyce.

[newtmiscer]

I'd drop Joyce.

you'd drop joyce over fowler or choo choo? he could hit 25-30 hr while choo and fowler won't hit 20. Joyce should also have the higher BA

[ZailZ]

you'd drop joyce over fowler or choo choo? he could hit 25-30 hr while choo and fowler won't hit 20. Joyce should also have the higher BA

Joyce went on hot streak last year too and went ice cold. Fowler will hit around 15 hrs and will swipe around 30 bags.For long term, i wouldn't keep Joyce unless he proves me wrong.

[MooseLaddin]

I'd take Joyce over Soo-Choo any day right now. Soo-Choo is hopeless sadly. Joyce is decent

[El Conquistador]

I'd take Joyce over Soo-Choo any day right now. Soo-Choo is hopeless sadly. Joyce is decent

What he said. Joyce has improved against lefties, and he's at the magic age of 27. Power is unquestioned, and he has underrated speed two. Choo has lost his magic after the injuries.

[drock2190]

What he said. Joyce has improved against lefties, and he's at the magic age of 27. Power is unquestioned, and he has underrated speed two. Choo has lost his magic after the injuries.

Yeah I dropped Choo even though he has started to pick it up lately.

One more question. Who would you rather have, Trumbo or Morse??

[MooseLaddin]

Just traded Beachy and Wainwright for McCutchen in one of my 2 money leagues. Feel its a good sell high on Beachy, WW will be solid but not elite rest of way. McCutchen IS elite. Am I right or wrong I think I made out?

[The_Albatross]

Just traded Beachy and Wainwright for McCutchen in one of my 2 money leagues. Feel its a good sell high on Beachy, WW will be solid but not elite rest of way. McCutchen IS elite. Am I right or wrong I think I made out?

Depends on who you have left on your pitching staff, but yeah, McCutchen will likely finish the year as a top 10 OF and contributes to every standard hitting category, I would do the same thing.

[newtmiscer]

Just traded Beachy and Wainwright for McCutchen in one of my 2 money leagues. Feel its a good sell high on Beachy, WW will be solid but not elite rest of way. McCutchen IS elite. Am I right or wrong I think I made out?

whats your pitching like? If you have a strong pitching than you did fine, but if beachy was one of your top starters then you dun goofd

[WishmasterATM]

Have to drop an Outfielder. Reps for advice who to drop. 8 team league

Chris Young
Mike Trout
Matt Joyce
Dexter Fowler
Shin Soo-Choo
Michael Morse

choo chooo for suree

[MooseLaddin]

Depends on who you have left on your pitching staff, but yeah, McCutchen will likely finish the year as a top 10 OF and contributes to every standard hitting category, I would do the same thing.

Tommy Hanson
Matt Moore
Yovani Gallardo
Ervin Santana
Matt Garza
Madison Bumgarner
Edinson Volquez


with RPs Street, Chris Perez, Santos, Fuentes.

I picked up half my starters from the FA pool, just picked up Garza last week I think he will improve and not be a ton worse than Beachy. People in this league cut the cord on SPs after 1 bad start. I don't think my staff is great but I think with my batting it is good enough. I am in first and my hitters include:

Napoli at C, Joey Votto at 1B, Robinson Cano 2B, Miggy Cabrera 3B, my main liability is Gordon at SS. OF now has McCutchen, Nelson Cruz, (Crisp/Maybin OF3). UTIL is Mark Teixeria, and last spot is now Goldschmidt who has 5 HR past 2 weeks or so picked him up off wire. 12 team league.