I like Jack3d because when it works, I go in the gym and I am focused on moving iron. But it just seems like its not as potent as it used to be? I have been taking it for 3 weeks now and before that it was about a year since I last took it. I am taking 4 scoops and I am not feeling anything. I dont want to take it and waste it if it isnt going to do anything.
Does anyone recommend something else that gets that focus going?
Thanks.
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04-02-2012, 06:53 AM #1
Looking for Pre workout similar to Jack3d
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04-02-2012, 06:54 AM #2
maximize intense, better than jack3d on every level...
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04-02-2012, 07:03 AM #7
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So no other caffeine than in the PWO? Interesting, it's strange your tolerance wouldn't have reset by this point.
Regardless, Jack3d is essentially just caffeine. So I would either stick to caffeine pills for PWO, or look into some diverse ones that would give you more benefit in the NO boosting/nootropic category.
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04-02-2012, 07:03 AM #8
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04-02-2012, 07:06 AM #9
White flood whoops Jack3d every day of the week! I just swapped over. Go with White Flood and you won't be disappointed
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04-02-2012, 07:11 AM #11
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[QUOTE=RaginAzN;858873083]maximize intense, better than jack3d on every level...[QUOTE]
I'm going to be cycling off Jack 3D in a couple of days when this jar is finished. It's my 2nd in a row without a break from it and I've had great results. I use 2 scoops 4 times per week.
Why is Maximize Intense "better than jack 3d on every level"? I'm not asking to be snotty I really want to know since I need to move to something new. I have a bench press comp at the end of next month and I don't want to disrupt my training. Thanks for the info!You have to train your mind the same way you train your body. You must protect it against the negative and feed it with the positive. Be mindful of what you watch, what you read and who you allow to influence you. Learn to consider your thoughts emotions and actions. Trust your gut face your fears head on and never quit. AJ Roberts
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=143102443
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04-02-2012, 07:14 AM #12
[QUOTE=kjake55;858878403][QUOTE=RaginAzN;858873083]maximize intense, better than jack3d on every level...
I'm going to be cycling off Jack 3D in a couple of days when this jar is finished. It's my 2nd in a row without a break from it and I've had great results. I use 2 scoops 4 times per week.
Why is Maximize Intense "better than jack 3d on every level"? I'm not asking to be snotty I really want to know since I need to move to something new. I have a bench press comp at the end of next month and I don't want to disrupt my training. Thanks for the info!NASM Certified Personal Trainer and Nutritionist
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04-02-2012, 07:16 AM #13
[QUOTE=kjake55;858878403][QUOTE=RaginAzN;858873083]maximize intense, better than jack3d on every level...
I'm going to be cycling off Jack 3D in a couple of days when this jar is finished. It's my 2nd in a row without a break from it and I've had great results. I use 2 scoops 4 times per week.
Why is Maximize Intense "better than jack 3d on every level"? I'm not asking to be snotty I really want to know since I need to move to something new. I have a bench press comp at the end of next month and I don't want to disrupt my training. Thanks for the info!Controlled Labs Rep
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Disclaimer: The above post is my PERSONAL OPINION and DOES NOT REPRESENT the official position of any company or entity. It DOES NOT constitute medical advice.
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04-02-2012, 07:18 AM #14
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You have to train your mind the same way you train your body. You must protect it against the negative and feed it with the positive. Be mindful of what you watch, what you read and who you allow to influence you. Learn to consider your thoughts emotions and actions. Trust your gut face your fears head on and never quit. AJ Roberts
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=143102443
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You have to train your mind the same way you train your body. You must protect it against the negative and feed it with the positive. Be mindful of what you watch, what you read and who you allow to influence you. Learn to consider your thoughts emotions and actions. Trust your gut face your fears head on and never quit. AJ Roberts
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=143102443
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04-02-2012, 07:26 AM #19
scratch the part about the citulline malate as I was thinking of hemavol for some strange reason LOL but it is still a great formula/product.
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04-02-2012, 07:39 AM #22
To be honest this is my experience with craze, first time trying it took the whole 2 sample pack I felt like superman on crack...so I decided to buy a whole tub and after a week of damn great workout (@ 2 scoops) coupled with sleeplessness and extreme appetite suppressant, it just stopped working...
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04-02-2012, 07:41 AM #23
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Thanks, lots of good info here. Any thoughts on how long I should be off the jack b4 I start on something new? I'm *very* stim tolerant.
Edit w/another quick question. Should I be adding additional beta alanine? It's already in the jack so I don't bother but I don't know about other brands.You have to train your mind the same way you train your body. You must protect it against the negative and feed it with the positive. Be mindful of what you watch, what you read and who you allow to influence you. Learn to consider your thoughts emotions and actions. Trust your gut face your fears head on and never quit. AJ Roberts
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