Get stronger while dieting?

[RyanCantRead]

So I've been trying to clean up my diet as of late. I've added more protein, while cutting my calories and carbs. I'm losing weight. But seem to be either plateaued or moving down in weight for my exercises. So my question is, can you still gain strength while loosing weight,?

[Tyler2106]

If you're a newb lifter you'd see gains. If you've been lifting for a while you'll see little to no gains. Sucks brah

[drummerguydw]

I'm doing it now, I'm running madcows at a small deficit, I'm gaining 5 lbs on my lifts per week still for about a month already, I know erikstevens also gained strength while cutting

[SOJA]

Neuromuscular strength ≠ muscle gain.

[sawoobley]

Yes you can gain strength. If your strength is going down significantly I would check to see if your calorie deficit is too high.

[MiscDemeanor]

Yes you can gain strength. If your strength is going down significantly I would check to see if your calorie deficit is too high.

This. And why low carbs?

[RyanCantRead]

This. And why low carbs?

to be honest idk. never really dieted before. but i thot cutting carbs was good while trying to lose weight

[RyanCantRead]

Yes you can gain strength. If your strength is going down significantly I would check to see if your calorie deficit is too high.

im taking in about 1500-1700 calories daily, but making sure im getting 1g protein per lb of body weight

[MiscDemeanor]

to be honest idk. never really dieted before. but i thot cutting carbs was good while trying to lose weight

Not necessarily. How many calories are you taking in and how many grams of protein, carbs, fats?

Edit: just saw your above response

[sawoobley]

im taking in about 1500-1700 calories daily, but making sure im getting 1g protein per lb of body weight

Your getting weaker because your eating below your BMR. To lose weight you should be 400-700 calories below your TDEE (TEE).

Have you read the sticky?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981

[RyanCantRead]

Not necessarily. How many calories are you taking in and how many grams of protein, carbs, fats?

Edit: just saw your above response

yeahh...... i need to look up more on dieting

[sawoobley]

yeahh...... i need to look up more on dieting

After you read the sticky above you can go here and find a lot of good articles in the nutrition/fat loss section. http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/articles

[AlwaysTryin]

I always gain strength and set PR's when cutting

[RyanCantRead]

I always gain strength and set PR's when cutting

gonna sound dumb. but idk what a pr is........

[hockeytownfan]

gonna sound dumb. but idk what a pr is........

personal record. And for what it's worth, when I was your weight before my bulk I was losing at 2700 calories a day. About a pound of week and I had less lean mass than you do, but I had a more active lifestyle. Honestly, I'd experiment with at least 2,200 a day.

For gym performance, I've found that eating most of my daily carbs during my preworkout meal helps a lot. 2 hours before gym, I have 50g protein, 150g carbs, and incidental fats. I know it's kind of "bro" way to do things, but my lifts are much better when I do this.

[MiscDemeanor]

Have you read the sticky?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981

After you read the sticky above you can go here and find a lot of good articles in the nutrition/fat loss section. http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/articles

But Ryan can't read...

[sawoobley]

That's what I'm afraid of. Perhaps the only thing understood is the meme you posted.

[necon76]

But Ryan can't read...

Lawl!

You so crazy.....




And on spread. I love bad jokes.

[SOJA]

Lawl!

You so crazy.....




And on spread. I love bad jokes.

Strong case of brown lips here. jk!

[peanut-butter]

You can definitely get stronger whilst in a energy deficit.

im taking in about 1500-1700 calories daily, but making sure im getting 1g protein per lb of body weight

What is your TDEE? 1500-1700 calories is very low. I don't understand how some people can eat so little. I'm cutting on 2500 cals losing 1kg per week, whilst doing no physical activity besides lifting. I must be a dat der hardgainer

[necon76]

Strong case of brown lips here. jk!

Oh, it's on now b!tch.




Or not. Whatevs.

[TomBremner]

CNS bro

[prolvr]

You can definitely get stronger whilst in a energy deficit.



What is your TDEE? 1500-1700 calories is very low. I don't understand how some people can eat so little. I'm cutting on 2500 cals losing 1kg per week, whilst doing no physical activity besides lifting. I must be a dat der hardgainer

Didn't I read somewhere you are bulking on Lyles GBR :s

[SOJA]

Didn't I read somewhere you are bulking on Lyles GBR :s

Modified Mad Cows, IIRC.

[prolvr]

Modified Mad Cows, IIRC.

But he said he was bulking :S cutting on Mad Cows & Gaining strength is beast

[SOJA]

But he said he was bulking :S cutting on Mad Cows & Gaining strength is beast

I dunno, he's a tricky legume.

[peanut-butter]

Didn't I read somewhere you are bulking on Lyles GBR :s

Started bulk with Modified 3x5 > Moved on to modified Madcows > Got sick and started 6/week upper/lower, yet still made significant strength gains at approx a 500 deficit (unintentional) > Being sick and suffering from injury led to lack of motivation with also more injury making it nearly impossible for me to train like I used too. i.e heavy. > Now I'm just training for fun doing mahh own thang.

This is what I'm doing now:

Pull
Push
Lower
Rest ^^ The first three days are basically "Power" days, focusing on ME lifts for the three main lifts. I also include DC training on these days. So it's basically a Power-Intensity day
Lats/Delts/Tricep
Legs
Chest/Bicep/Traps/Rear delts
rest

The last three days are focused on hypertrophy. i.e more volume and less emphasis on compound lifts

It's basically like PHAT with WSB and DC, but I much prefer it to either of them.

I'm really enjoying this routine. It seems quite taxing, but I'm cutting quite aggressively and have only ever felt overly fatigued once. I'm also DL three times per week, most weeks, which is obviously very taxing recovery. So yeah, it's just for sheets and giggles.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...3456613&page=2

I dunno, he's a tricky legume.

I try to keep you guessing. I think it makes our relationship more exciting. xoxo

[prolvr]

Started bulk with Modified 3x5 > Moved on to modified Madcows > Got sick and started 6/week upper/lower, yet still made significant strength gains at approx a 500 deficit (unintentional) > Being sick and suffering from injury led to lack of motivation with also more injury making it nearly impossible for me to train like I used too. i.e heavy. > Now I'm just training for fun doing mahh own thang.

This is what I'm doing now:



http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...3456613&page=2




I try to keep you guessing. I think it makes our relationship more exciting. xoxo

Ahhh I see

I also see you did a mod of SS basically SS with accessory work which I personally like IMO SS lacks a lot I have seen people do SS and get great strength on a bulk but with little mass/more fat to many people preach SS half of them never did it, So you are cutting then going on a bulk I take it?

[SOJA]

Drop the power cleans and do rows or other back work, throw in arm work 2-3x a week and you're golden.