GAME OF THRONES - SEASON 2 - Discussion Thread- No Book Discussion

[PeterParker23]

Stannis is a respectable king in the way he fights with his soldiers

but so is Tywin, he rode in with troops with him at the front right into the thick of the fight

all of the kings ride into battle with the exception of Joffrey

[Nomsayin]

I thought that Stannis was taken prisoner at the end, not carried off by his men. I swear one of them had a sword at his neck.

can anyone confirm this? i thought he was taken prisoner as well

[surf junkie]

It was pretty random - what else leads you to believe it was an outside influence? I don't recall any other scenes where he is anything besides the King's bitch.

Sounds like Cersei's work to me.

"You sent my daughter to Dorne"
"You're sending my son to the battlefield to die."



Maybe her orders were to ensure that Tyrion died during the battle.

[surf junkie]

can anyone confirm this? i thought he was taken prisoner as well

He was taken by his own men, and his likely avenue of escape was also revealed earlier in the episode.

33:21

Tyrion: "Pod, run to the Kings Gate. Bring any men guarding it here, now!"


It looks like the show led us to believe the climbed the ladders right beside the Mud Gate. This couldn't be the case as Joffrey/Tyrion were on the wall/stairs beside the gate. It must have been in a different spot on the wall.

This would account for how Tyrion sallied out and attacked the ram, but then was attacked by a different part of Stannis army. Looks like there was a fight along the walls elsewhere, and we only saw Stannis there.

[yoitspmart]

inb4 the Hound and The Mountian fight in upcoming seasons

im still confused about the dude who hit imp


and now Robb Stark will probably take over where the head Lannister guy left

[Nomsayin]

inb4 the Hound and The Mountian fight in upcoming seasons

not sure if this is a spoiler... negged just in case

[ABSPR]

so the reason Tywin was in another area is just because of **** that went down after Ned heads was cut ?


I'm confused by this ... he was just there fighting "the north rebellion" ?

[Shangius]

so the reason Tywin was in another area is just because of **** that went down after Ned heads was cut ?


I'm confused by this ... he was just there fighting "the north rebellion" ?

Well no sh!t. Robb is attacking Lannister lands, of course Tywin is gonna be fighting him.

[yoitspmart]

not sure if this is a spoiler... negged just in case

prediction ******* but dont wry

[Kenetics]

so the reason Tywin was in another area is just because of **** that went down after Ned heads was cut ?


I'm confused by this ... he was just there fighting "the north rebellion" ?

[Bonecrshr]

a great episode IMO. well worth the anticipation.

I thought the battle was done very well considering they couldn't pull off something from LOTR...which seems to be what many of you were expecting. lol

and some of these questions...do you even watch?

the worse part being those familiar with the books come in and answer these dumbfck questions with TMI and spoilers. good job guys. thx for the help.

[An hero]

Stannis is a respectable king in the way he fights with his soldiers

but so is Tywin, he rode in with troops with him at the front right into the thick of the fight

all of the kings ride into battle with the exception of Joffrey

I might be wrong, but Tywin was NOT leading the charge, Loras Tyrell was. Also, Tywin is not a fukking king. Also, Joffrey is like 14.

Also to the people asking, yes, it was Stannis's own men who were dragging him off, probably trying to make him escape.

Anyway that was the best episode in the entire series so far and if you didn't like it you might as well quit watching now.

[_Ishy]

Sounds like Cersei's work to me.

"You sent my daughter to Dorne"
"You're sending my son to the battlefield to die."



Maybe her orders were to ensure that Tyrion died during the battle.

I was beginning to think that also, nobody else would have that influence or any motive.

[Jagd24]

a great episode IMO. well worth the anticipation.

I thought the battle was done very well considering they couldn't pull off something from LOTR...which seems to be what many of you were expecting. lol

and some of these questions...do you even watch?

the worse part being those familiar with the books come in and answer these dumbfck questions with TMI and spoilers. good job guys. thx for the help.

there are a lot of people who read the books and know them VERY well in here....scroll the spoilers thread and you will notice a lot of the same people

[Shangius]

there are a lot of people who read the books and know them VERY well in here....scroll the spoilers thread and you will notice a lot of the same people

If I ever post anything that seems remotely like a spoiler, I invite anyone to call me out on it. Just trying to help people here better understand what's going on.

[Jagd24]

I was beginning to think that also, nobody else would have that influence or any motive.

yup, so far the people with the most power in Kings Landing would be Tyrion, Cercei, Varys and Littlefinger


lol they all have more power than Joffery...hes a pawn

[Kenetics]

I might be wrong, but Tywin was NOT leading the charge, Loras Tyrell was. Also, Tywin is not a fukking king. Also, Joffrey is like 14.

Also to the people asking, yes, it was Stannis's own men who were dragging him off, probably trying to make him escape.

Anyway that was the best episode in the entire series so far and if you didn't like it you might as well quit watching now.

Loras was wearing Renly's armour as well (http://i.imgur.com/kZMFb.jpg). You're right Loras led the charge.

And Joffery may be young, not sure if it's 14 because they age them up in the show compared to the books but even his cousin Lancel was fighting for a bit. Joffery is just a coward.

[Jagd24]

If I ever post anything that seems remotely like a spoiler, I invite anyone to call me out on it. Just trying to help people here better understand what's going on.

Same here only spoiler I will give is I cant wait until next season...Clash of Kings was my (and a majority of fans) favorite book

[Jyeatbvg]

Not sure if I'm confused here or the producer's doing this on purpose but...

When Tyrion went through the side door, he literally killed 1 guy and his army of 20 men was celebrating...I thought there were more of Staniss' men trying to barge in?
Where did Joffrey go? If the producers meant for it to be ambiguous then don't answer but did he just run to his chamber?
I think Tywin said last episode that he was going to march on Robb's army, but he ended up at King's Landing. Why was this?
When Tywin's army came to the rescue, was it supposed to be ambiguous on purpose? I had no idea it was them and thought it was more of Staniss' men.



Also agreed with other posters of the discontinuity, Stannis spending half the episode on the wall, lolwtf.
And Sansa running away and the Lannister's actually winning. oh boy dis gon be gud now all of the starks are free (except Jon Snow)

[Jagd24]

Not sure if I'm confused here or the producer's doing this on purpose but...

When Tyrion went through the side door, he literally killed 1 guy and his army of 20 men was celebrating...I thought there were more of Staniss' men trying to barge in?
Where did Joffrey go? If the producers meant for it to be ambiguous then don't answer but did he just run to his chamber?
I think Tywin said last episode that he was going to march on Robb's army, but he ended up at King's Landing. Why was this?



Also agreed with other posters of the discontinuity, Stannis spending half the episode on the wall, lolwtf.
And Sansa running away and the Lannister's actually winning. oh boy dis gon be gud now all of the starks are free (except Jon Snow)

Sneak attack...and Tyrion was first on scene. Tywin is a cheeky kunt. And this episode was supposed to be real time...so the 30 minutes that stannis was on the wall...was probably only 5 minutes real time...whatever for what it was (TV show) it was great

[An hero]

Loras was wearing Renly's armour as well (http://i.imgur.com/kZMFb.jpg). You're right Loras led the charge.

And Joffery may be young, not sure if it's 14 because they age them up in the show compared to the books but even his cousin Lancel was fighting for a bit. Joffery is just a coward.

He's 12 in the first book.

[An hero]

I think Tywin said last episode that he was going to march on Robb's army, but he ended up at King's Landing. Why was this?

Arya assumes he's attacking Robb and tells that to Jaqen, but Tywin never actually says where he's going.

When Tywin's army came to the rescue, was it supposed to be ambiguous on purpose? I had no idea it was them and thought it was more of Staniss' men.

Why would Stanis' men be wearing red and carrying Lannister banners?

[An hero]

And Jon is like 14 in the first book so no way he's only 16 right now in the show. They've aged the characters up quite a bit.

I believe he's supposed to be about 17.

[grimlock33]

I believe he's supposed to be about 17.

I remember in the previous ep. Tyrion and Cersei arguing about Joff actually fighting in the battle, and Tyrion asks Cersei if she remembers what Jamie was like at 17

[iamgenus]

Fuuuuuuu was reading up on something I thought I missed on the wiki page and ended up reading a huge spoiler...god damnit!

Still can't wait til next week tho. May as well start reading the books at this point.

[iamgenus]

I remember in the previous ep. Tyrion and Cersei arguing about Joff actually fighting in the battle, and Tyrion asks Cersei if she remembers what Jamie was like at 17

Aren't all these people supposed to be wicked young in the books? Seems like in the GOT world kids are thrown into the "adult" world in early teens. Girls are allowed to fuk and boys are taught how to fight and go to war/guards etc...

So at 17 I think people should be already badasses. Joffrey obviously is a vagina of epic levels.

[210G]

Same here only spoiler I will give is I cant wait until next season...Clash of Kings was my (and a majority of fans) favorite book

Pretty sure A Storm of Swords is everyones favorite book

[guest89]

Hound is so creepy, they made him so beta this episode - I knew for sure he'd be creeping in Sansa's room as soon as they showed her chilling there for a prolonged period of time. I understand that he is afraid of fire but a) he ran away from the entire battle and not just retreated to the walls 2) he ditched his vows 3) he creeped Sansa some more.

Hound always came off as being alpha, but has he ever fought any real battles/wars? We know he is fearless in 1 on 1 combat, but isn't this the first time he's ever had to fight in this manner?



We know the fire freaked him out because his head was held in a fire as a boy... Perhaps he decided to just say F it, this 'king' isn't worth fighting for. He's seemed to have a thing for Sansa for awhile now anyways. As soon as he walked off the battle-field I knew he was going to go find her and run away with her.





As always, Bronn is the most alpha character there. Everyone else is fighting for honor, for a vow, for something they believe in, etc. Bronn is just there to collect a paycheck... Just another day at the office for him. He's quite possibly the one character who would have the least to lose if he'd just walk away (In terms of honor/reputation).

[Jagd24]

Pretty sure A Storm of Swords is everyones favorite book

youre correct I misspoke.......................................... ..................................................

[grimlock33]

Aren't all these people supposed to be wicked young in the books? Seems like in the GOT world kids are thrown into the "adult" world in early teens. Girls are allowed to fuk and boys are taught how to fight and go to war/guards etc...

So at 17 I think people should be already badasses. Joffrey obviously is a vagina of epic levels.

yeah they are quite a but younger in the books, robb is leading the north into war and he's 15 if I'm not mistaken. And in the show Tyrion was referring to Jamie already being a ****in boss at 17, soo yeah joff's on that ****gy time.