The greatest fantasy book I've ever read and you probably have never heard of it

[nick1990]

Exactly 50% into the book now and my worst nightmare is coming true

Spoiler!

Whenever i read these books I feel like I'm constantly ranting about Shallan and honestly I'm not that big a fan of hers in this one so far either so I'm pissed that they're making my boy Kaladin fall for her - whyyy

Please don't bring Kaladin chapters down with this rubbish, especially not for her, just let her stick with Adolin and leave Kaladin for some other gal.

Other than that I'm surprised by the distinct lack of action so far, though it's obviously setting up for that.

I think you will be very pleasantly surprised by what happens in the last 400 pages lmao

[NasStan]

I think you will be very pleasantly surprised by what happens in the last 400 pages lmao

On the spoiler bit? Don't get my hopes up boyo

[NOTHINSPECIAL69]

Not a huge fantasy fiction reader but I went through these recently, they were fun. Part of a larger series I believe; Riftwar Saga.

Magician: Apprentice


Magician: Master

[nick1990]

On the spoiler bit? Don't get my hopes up boyo

)))))))

[NasStan]

75% through Oathbringer - I'm getting there

Just realised the new Red Rising book is out in two weeks as well

[NasStan]

About 85% in

Spoiler!

It's slowed down quite a bit - not a fan of the shadesmare (sp?) arc, hopefully they're out of it soon

[Drufeus]

Glad I got Edgedancer. Loved it. Lift is a great character and the expansion on the world building and Lore was amazing. Great read

[BericDondarrion]

So which one of you kunts has read the Elric of Melniboné saga? I'm gonna check them out in the near future, it looks promising.

[Drufeus]

So which one of you kunts has read the Elric of Melniboné saga? I'm gonna check them out in the near future, it looks promising.

That's an older series from the 70s I think. My uncle loves them as he's a huge D&D fan and these books were a huge inspiration for the game. Glad you mentioned this as I forgot about it. Also, really like that era of fantasy. Zelazny Amber Chronicles is amazing

[NasStan]

I didn't like Oathbringer nowhere near as much as I would have liked which is pretty disappointing.

My issues

Spoiler!

- Too many POV's and flashbacks. rarely an issue for me but a lot just didn't add to the story and just took away from the main characters. Did we really need chapters form every one in Bridge 4? You already have the interludes so I'm not sure why Part 2 or 3 I think had so many new ones that weren't in the previous two. Excessive flashbacks as well. I love nothing more than picking up a book and seeing a 1000+ pages, but there needs to be substance there to justify it. The previous two in the series did but I don't think this one did.
- There was too much happening in the last 10%, which is ridiculous considering the book had its fair share of nothing happening. That one chapter near the end that's the longest in the book, and it just constantly switches back and forth in the battle, barely giving any particular part of the battle to really simmer. Jasnah all of a sudden becomes crazy over powered. The battle for Kholinar was much better written - Kaladin freezing on the battlefield was probably the best written chapter of the book
- The attempt at romance wasn't good and was just unnecessary.
- I realise seeing Shadesmare was necessary but I feel they spent way too much time there, was getting Felurian vibes towards the end of it
- I don't want to always complain about her every time a new book comes out in the series but the Shallan schizo phase has been drawn out way too long, and looks like we'll get it in the next book as well. Trying way too hard to make her some complex flawed character.
- Dalinar was the only one in the main group that got any decent character development. Sadeas getting killed completely brushed under the carpet, not really hitting Adolin's character development at all, getting Gary Stu vibes from him. Kaladin is my favourite character in the series but he just felt so stagnant in this one. Sanderson's writing of characters is my biggest pet peeve with his books, hopefully it gets back to the level of WoR for the next one.

This is genuinely the only Brandon Sanderson series I've managed to read past the first book - getting worried I'll end up getting turned away from this series before the 10th one is out. Which would be chit because he's the only author that actually puts his books out in good time. At the moment I don't even know how he will stretch this to 10 books.

The more I think about the book the more I feel it has everything I dislike about Brandon Sanderson books. This brah is really crap at writing characters, and his books too plot driven.

Was no-one else a bit unimpressed with it itt?


Now that I've finished this i need something to keep me occupied until the next Red Rising book.

Anyone got any books with a badass MC, something along the lines of the the Night Angel Trilogy?

[SiberianExpress]

I didn't like Oathbringer nowhere near as much as I would have liked which is pretty disappointing.

My issues

Spoiler!

- Too many POV's and flashbacks. rarely an issue for me but a lot just didn't add to the story and just took away from the main characters. Did we really need chapters form every one in Bridge 4? You already have the interludes so I'm not sure why Part 2 or 3 I think had so many new ones that weren't in the previous two. Excessive flashbacks as well. I love nothing more than picking up a book and seeing a 1000+ pages, but there needs to be substance there to justify it. The previous two in the series did but I don't think this one did.
- There was too much happening in the last 10%, which is ridiculous considering the book had its fair share of nothing happening. That one chapter near the end that's the longest in the book, and it just constantly switches back and forth in the battle, barely giving any particular part of the battle to really simmer. Jasnah all of a sudden becomes crazy over powered. The battle for Kholinar was much better written - Kaladin freezing on the battlefield was probably the best written chapter of the book
- The attempt at romance wasn't good and was just unnecessary.
- I realise seeing Shadesmare was necessary but I feel they spent way too much time there, was getting Felurian vibes towards the end of it
- I don't want to always complain about her every time a new book comes out in the series but the Shallan schizo phase has been drawn out way too long, and looks like we'll get it in the next book as well. Trying way too hard to make her some complex flawed character.
- Dalinar was the only one in the main group that got any decent character development. Sadeas getting killed completely brushed under the carpet, not really hitting Adolin's character development at all, getting Gary Stu vibes from him. Kaladin is my favourite character in the series but he just felt so stagnant in this one. Sanderson's writing of characters is my biggest pet peeve with his books, hopefully it gets back to the level of WoR for the next one.

This is genuinely the only Brandon Sanderson series I've managed to read past the first book - getting worried I'll end up getting turned away from this series before the 10th one is out. Which would be chit because he's the only author that actually puts his books out in good time. At the moment I don't even know how he will stretch this to 10 books.

The more I think about the book the more I feel it has everything I dislike about Brandon Sanderson books. This brah is really crap at writing characters, and his books too plot driven.

Out of curiosity, are you a Robert Jordan fan (can't be fukked reading back through the thread)? This is a problem I have with him, despite his GOAT status. I can read thousands of pages of Jordan and not give two fuks if any of the characters are killed off.

[NasStan]

Out of curiosity, are you a Robert Jordan fan (can't be fukked reading back through the thread)? This is a problem I have with him, despite his GOAT status. I can read thousands of pages of Jordan and not give two fuks if any of the characters are killed off.

Nah I've never managed to get into the WoT - every time I try I just think about everyone's complaints about the middle few books and it never seems worth it

Reading Sanderson makes me appreciate how good GRRM can write characters

[EnriqueBrah]

Sanderson is great, watchout your comments bro

[BericDondarrion]

Haven't read Sanderson yet but I felt the same with Abercrombie's First Law trilogy. Couldn't give a fuk about anyone except Glokta.

if a genie gave me 3 wishes I'd ask for sequels from Scott Lynch, GRRM and Pat Rothfuss. Those 3 fukkers will kill me with their delays

[DatPass]

Haven't read Sanderson yet but I felt the same with Abercrombie's First Law trilogy. Couldn't give a fuk about anyone except Glokta.

With Abercrombie that was sort of the point, all the characters were such deeply flawed shades of grey that only really Glotka and Dogman are truly decent people. The entire intent of the series was to make you look at OTHER works from a new angle.... like... Smaug was probably ****ing pissed off for good reason.

[Drufeus]

I didn't like Oathbringer nowhere near as much as I would have liked which is pretty disappointing.

My issues

Spoiler!

- Too many POV's and flashbacks. rarely an issue for me but a lot just didn't add to the story and just took away from the main characters. Did we really need chapters form every one in Bridge 4? You already have the interludes so I'm not sure why Part 2 or 3 I think had so many new ones that weren't in the previous two. Excessive flashbacks as well. I love nothing more than picking up a book and seeing a 1000+ pages, but there needs to be substance there to justify it. The previous two in the series did but I don't think this one did.
- There was too much happening in the last 10%, which is ridiculous considering the book had its fair share of nothing happening. That one chapter near the end that's the longest in the book, and it just constantly switches back and forth in the battle, barely giving any particular part of the battle to really simmer. Jasnah all of a sudden becomes crazy over powered. The battle for Kholinar was much better written - Kaladin freezing on the battlefield was probably the best written chapter of the book
- The attempt at romance wasn't good and was just unnecessary.
- I realise seeing Shadesmare was necessary but I feel they spent way too much time there, was getting Felurian vibes towards the end of it
- I don't want to always complain about her every time a new book comes out in the series but the Shallan schizo phase has been drawn out way too long, and looks like we'll get it in the next book as well. Trying way too hard to make her some complex flawed character.
- Dalinar was the only one in the main group that got any decent character development. Sadeas getting killed completely brushed under the carpet, not really hitting Adolin's character development at all, getting Gary Stu vibes from him. Kaladin is my favourite character in the series but he just felt so stagnant in this one. Sanderson's writing of characters is my biggest pet peeve with his books, hopefully it gets back to the level of WoR for the next one.

This is genuinely the only Brandon Sanderson series I've managed to read past the first book - getting worried I'll end up getting turned away from this series before the 10th one is out. Which would be chit because he's the only author that actually puts his books out in good time. At the moment I don't even know how he will stretch this to 10 books.

The more I think about the book the more I feel it has everything I dislike about Brandon Sanderson books. This brah is really crap at writing characters, and his books too plot driven.

Was no-one else a bit unimpressed with it itt?


Now that I've finished this i need something to keep me occupied until the next Red Rising book.

Anyone got any books with a badass MC, something along the lines of the the Night Angel Trilogy?

Bloodsong if you haven't read it. Read it as a stand alone book. I also like Shadowdance series by David Dalglash

[FrazettaSilke]

With Abercrombie that was sort of the point, all the characters were such deeply flawed shades of grey that only really Glotka and Dogman are truly decent people. The entire intent of the series was to make you look at OTHER works from a new angle.... like... Smaug was probably ****ing pissed off for good reason.

Spoiler!

He cucked my favorite character kinda happy the dumb sloot died tbh

[NasStan]

Sanderson is great, watchout your comments bro

He's so overrated for me, srs

Bloodsong if you haven't read it. Read it as a stand alone book. I also like Shadowdance series by David Dalglash

Have read Bloodsong and the second one unfortunately.

Looking at Shadowdance, I read a Dance of Cloaks in 2013 and gave it 4 stars which is quite a lot for me so I must have enjoyed it. Looked at the sequel A Dance of Blades on my e-reader and I was 70% of the way through it but never finished it, how odd. Will look into it, have no idea why I would stop so far in.

Any other suggestions welcome boyos. I'll be flying at least 10 times for work this month so need to stack up on some books.

[Singularity7]

Got a few credits from Audible to spend. I read while listening to the audibles.
Any opinions on:
Blade Itself by Joe Abercrombie.
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch.
Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence.

Heard of Prince of Thorn being brutal but good and the main character being an ******* but likable. Nothing on the others but from the reviews they look legit. Not really fussy on any specifics but one thing i do prefer is not too many POV's. At most stuff like Stormlight Archive or the Witcher's multiple POV.
Reps.

[Retoaded]

Got a few credits from Audible to spend. I read while listening to the audibles.
Any opinions on:
Blade Itself by Joe Abercrombie.
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch.
Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence.

Heard of Prince of Thorn being brutal but good and the main character being an ******* but likable. Nothing on the others but from the reviews they look legit. Not really fussy on any specifics but one thing i do prefer is not too many POV's. At most stuff like Stormlight Archive or the Witcher's multiple POV.
Reps.

I really like the series that begins with Lies of Locke Lamora (Gentleman Bastards). Really only 1 main POV. The main characters are professional con-artists...like fantasy Robin Hood stealing from the rich. Lamora is a smart ass and its written pretty witty.

Blade Itself has multiple POVs but its not too many. much darker and grittier than Lamora but a good series also.

Both are good series.

I read Prince of Thorns but I don't remember much about that series.

[Wanderer10]

Got a few credits from Audible to spend. I read while listening to the audibles.
Any opinions on:
Blade Itself by Joe Abercrombie.
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch.
Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence.

Heard of Prince of Thorn being brutal but good and the main character being an ******* but likable. Nothing on the others but from the reviews they look legit. Not really fussy on any specifics but one thing i do prefer is not too many POV's. At most stuff like Stormlight Archive or the Witcher's multiple POV.
Reps.

Only read The Blade Itself. It's okay but nothing amazing for me. Think the characters are meant to be what makes it, but the story didn't feel great.

I've bought The Lies of Locke Lamora books, but put off reading them as it is due to be a huge series I think.

[Archangel_Lost]

Got a few credits from Audible to spend. I read while listening to the audibles.
Any opinions on:
Blade Itself by Joe Abercrombie.
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch.
Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence.

Heard of Prince of Thorn being brutal but good and the main character being an ******* but likable. Nothing on the others but from the reviews they look legit. Not really fussy on any specifics but one thing i do prefer is not too many POV's. At most stuff like Stormlight Archive or the Witcher's multiple POV.
Reps.

Tried all 3. For a good trilogy I liked Prince of Thorns books all the way through to the end of the last one. All three were good.

Lies of Locke Lamora... first book is probably better than all Thorns books, second is pretty good, third it gets boring. Not sure I'm gonna continue with that series if/when it continues.

Started Blade itself and just sort of stopped reading towards the end. Didn't really capture me personally.

[sl_17b]

Got a few credits from Audible to spend. I read while listening to the audibles.
Any opinions on:
Blade Itself by Joe Abercrombie.
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch.
Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence.

Heard of Prince of Thorn being brutal but good and the main character being an ******* but likable. Nothing on the others but from the reviews they look legit. Not really fussy on any specifics but one thing i do prefer is not too many POV's. At most stuff like Stormlight Archive or the Witcher's multiple POV.
Reps.

I would read Lies of Locke Lamora first. I think it has a very good way of drawing you into the world and just seemed like a well written story. By the end of the third book the deals were a little repetitive but overall it was very good. The author must have watched Iron Chef or other exotic cooking shows with the way he describes the food. Not in a bad way, but it was interesting compared to how little is written about food in other books. This technique is just one way it helps to draw you into the world.

The Blade Itself would be second. A complete change of pace compared to many of the fantasy books in that the author has no problem showing screwed up situations and characters. I don't know if he intended it that way or not, but Glokta ends up being one of the better characters. How often do you have a character yell out to a servant, "XYZ, I shizzz myself again!"

The Prince of Thorns was good and pretty raw as well. The main character is pretty much an axx but does grow or develop. I started another series by Mark Lawrence set at the same time and in the same universe called "Prince of Lies" but stopped reading half way through the second book. That main character was a whiny little bastich and never grew up.

[Nostromo8th]

To anyone interested in fantasy series, I highly recommend the The Book of the New Sun series by Gene Wolfe. It is an experience like no other, a series you will want to read again and again and get something new out of it each time. It is seriously mind boggling that a human being could come up with something so intricate and beautiful. George RR Martin ranks him as the best sci-fi/fantasy writer of the past century.

[NasStan]

Next Red Rising book out in two days.

[SiberianExpress]

I would read Lies of Locke Lamora first. I think it has a very good way of drawing you into the world and just seemed like a well written story. By the end of the third book the deals were a little repetitive but overall it was very good. The author must have watched Iron Chef or other exotic cooking shows with the way he describes the food. Not in a bad way, but it was interesting compared to how little is written about food in other books. This technique is just one way it helps to draw you into the world.

The Blade Itself would be second. A complete change of pace compared to many of the fantasy books in that the author has no problem showing screwed up situations and characters. I don't know if he intended it that way or not, but Glokta ends up being one of the better characters. How often do you have a character yell out to a servant, "XYZ, I shizzz myself again!"

The Prince of Thorns was good and pretty raw as well. The main character is pretty much an axx but does grow or develop. I started another series by Mark Lawrence set at the same time and in the same universe called "Prince of Lies" but stopped reading half way through the second book. That main character was a whiny little bastich and never grew up.

Funny. I also enjoyed the Broken Empire trilogy and bought the Red Queen trilogy. I was pretty bored of the second book until around the halfway point, where you quit. It got considerably better from that point on imo.

[FIREnICE]

So which one of you kunts has read the Elric of Melniboné saga? I'm gonna check them out in the near future, it looks promising.

really good. classic fantasy that actually was meant for test filled boys/men yearning for adventure.

planning on rereading all of what i've already read and continuing on to some conan and other classics. fantasy that didn't take itself too seriously.

[SiberianExpress]

Currently about 200 pages into Tower Lord and I'm still enjoying this series. I get the gripes about the POV changes but ffs, I was expecting a pile of dogsh!t judging by this thread. Either the book gets drastically worse, or you brahs have been too harsh.

[Kuzon]

way of kings was a mediocre book at best, i skipped all the shallan chapters. 500 pages into words of radiance now and holy chit, this book is fuarking good.


sanderson's writing is so freaking bad though. like seriously bad. a villain gets his plan spoiled and says "It can't be!". that made me cringe so hard, how can you be such a chit writer at clutch moments? rothfuss's books are flawless in that regard. sanderson books have good plots with chit prose as far as i've gathered.

[Azn00Superman]

way of kings was a mediocre book at best, i skipped all the shallan chapters. 500 pages into words of radiance now and holy chit, this book is fuarking good.


sanderson's writing is so freaking bad though. like seriously bad. a villain gets his plan spoiled and says "It can't be!". that made me cringe so hard, how can you be such a chit writer at clutch moments? rothfuss's books are flawless in that regard. sanderson books have good plots with chit prose as far as i've gathered.

lol that's why he takes so fuking long to finish his series breh. He spittle shines everything in his book while Sanderson just wants to write a kick ass story.