Are the Hodge twins and Lui Marco the biggest retard in the bodybuilding scene?

[parachuter]

ian mccarthy is a smart dude, even though he looks like sh*t he knows what he is talking about

lui and the twins... not so much lol

[SebLean]

I find the HodgeTwins funny as hell, and their advice is more oriented to noobs. When I was new to lifting, they gave some useful info (for someone that doesn't know sh** of bodybuilding).

Lately I've found them more repetitive, and it seems that with all the publicity in their videos and their t-****s and merch, they seem to have taken a more commertial turn.

[R_A_M_R_0_D]

they don't DL because they are old

most old people won't DL because they are old and their back and knees are ****ty


I watch some of their vids for the lulz, not to actually use their advice LOL.

[Rawdogmadfemalz]

So why do they pick up on Ian who backs everything he says with scientific studies?

Ian needs to spend less time making videos, and more time actually doing what he preaches because he has a sht body, and isn't making any improvements. Also sorry the hodgetwins and lui can't be correct about 100% of the things they say, at least they have good bodies and make progress. Also instead of hating on people giving free advice with no strings attached to help people, why don't you hate on the fitness industry which is using huge geared up dudes to market useless products to people. Lastly if you remember correctly Ians fat ass attacked them first.

[OmgNewb]

lol'd

all the hodgetwins fans posting or backing them up/luimaro or whatever are no lifters, no avi & under 22

inb4 you post my stats

pfp stronger than you stay mad.



edit: was looking at some demographic charts on youtube or w/e most of their fans are foreigners /middle east

[Bryce.MacLaren]

when i trained clients i used to say squats would be your bread and butter mass builder

advice is advice man - you can always choose to take it or leave it.

[momo5]

- Brb Ian McCarthy's advice is BS because he looks like he doesnt even lift, but when someone more aesthetic than them (Matt Ogus) back Ian, they say its because of genetics
- Lui Marco often gloats about how he eats Ice cream during a cut, but when Ian says eating pop tarts while maintaining a caloric deficit and hitting your macros, will make you lose wait, Lui Marco says its impossible to get lean with poptarts.
- Brb, 10 meals a day, no simple carbs except post workout, no carbs at night, if you dont drink protein 30 min after your workout, you miss the window. Lolwut, are we back in the 90s?

at the end of the day you CAN DO WHATEVER THE FCK YOU WANNA DO!

[Clean]

urine idiot man


they say they don't deadlift because their backs are messed up. and they cannot squat because of that as well.

they don't say don't do deadlifts, rather that it's a dangerous exercise and you don't need it. which is true, you don't NEED to do deadlifts. they are many other compound movements out there.


they have better physiques than everyone ITT so haters gonna hate

No, they pretty much say "don't do deadlifts/squats" because they fcked up their back doing it. Because it applies to them, they try and say everyone will fck up their sh*t doing it.

Sure, you technically don't need to do deadlifts or squats or anything for that matter to get a good physique, but compare someone who deadlifts and squats to someone who doesn't and you'll see why that person deadlifts/squats in the first place. Besides deadlifts and squats, there really aren't that many other compound exercises for your whole body either. You could do front squats or power cleans/jerks, but I'm sure they will tell you that you're gonna snap yo sh*t up with those too....

[aesethicsplz]

you do realize that 20 rep squats are as old as bodybuilding and that some of the world's best strength coaches suggest incorporating them?

Lol so because advice is old, that would make it better? find me any relatively recent scientific journal that would suggest 20 rep+ squats for optimal hypertrophy or strength gains.

[shadowwalker021]

i have only seen the one video of the Hodge twins so maybe i'm wrong but all they said was that eating poptarts will just make you hungrier later on. they didn't say anything about it being impossible to lose fat if you eat a poptart. seems like you are setting up a straw man, but again maybe they said something else in a different video..?

[CockeyJamel]

Ey, man, I heard you are serious about bodybuilding


You want to see some gains?




















You want some gains?































You, sure about that?































U sure?

[michael_xyz]

U guys are *******s. The hogdetwins give advice to the average joe looking to get in shape like them. They keep it simple to apply to a large audience. They preach: All supplements are crap besides creatine and whey. To use compound movements. You dont need 25sets a work out to build muscle. And to eat healthy. Whats the problem? But at the end of the day its just advice man. Thats allllll it is man. You can do whatever the FUK you wanna dooooo

EXACTLY!

Is there advice great? No. It's mainly decent advice but they have some stupid things here and there. Still, it's for the Average Joe.

[macca192]

i like their advice keep it simple but there sno way they dont juice and they should just admit it

[damlurker]

lol in on bigjet thrad..

weren't you dickridding the hodge twins just a few weeks ago in Foreveralone chat just to piss people off? lol

legend troll is legend

[Sikhveins]

Negged op.
U fat ****kk Manlet come at me.
I'm so drunk I don't give a flying ****k, u do t know shieet the twins are best info. For someone tryna begin how to learn and lose weight. Jill itself u fat ****k I will find u

[bonercoaster]

If you watched their live show OP they said that they discouraged people from eating poptarts because the average guy lack self control, which is true.

[bonercoaster]

i like their advice keep it simple but there sno way they dont juice and they should just admit it

Out of all the the people in the world you call out the hodgetwins for using steroids? pls go *******

[Al.Capone]

The twins are hilarious.

Ian Mcarthy is 18 going on 50. A real life (Good) Will Hunting, but nowhere near as cool. Plus some of the things he comes out with are questionable. One of the last videos was called 'the uselessness of the Glycemic Index' where he puts forward a swiss cheese argument about how the GI is completely useless, but if you challenge him, he doesn;t upload the comments, and nobody can rate his video.

[Vindervar]

The twins are hilarious.

Ian Mcarthy is 18 going on 50. A real life (Good) Will Hunting, but nowhere near as cool. Plus some of the things he comes out with are questionable. One of the last videos was called 'the uselessness of the Glycemic Index' where he puts forward a swiss cheese argument about how the GI is completely useless, but if you challenge him, he doesn;t upload the comments, and nobody can rate his video.

This!!

Ian preaches good stuff MOSTLY. But when someone calls him out or questions his logic and he can't answers it he WILL block and delete the person or comment. True story.

[good_fella]

Like all good arguments both sides are true,

First of all on dieting, specifically iifym, it is atonishingly rare for a noob who is just starting out to even know what a macro nutrient is. It's taken me along time to acquire all the knowledge I have. So when the hodge twins say eat clean for your average gym noob this is the best advice until they are further educated. It's like Maths you don't start off with long complicated equations you start with the basics. You start telling some fat Kunt noob that it's easy to lose weight whilst eating pop tarts, which it undeniably is, guess what he stays fat because he keeps eating 10 a day.

Then for anyone willing to make bodybuilding there primary hobby iifym is the only reasonable way I can foresee leading a near conventional life. Yes sacrifices are made, but not nearly to the extent of the only clean eat bullsh.it. I have got fairly shredded tracking macros and eating at least 2 sources of very high gi carb or junk food everyday

[AestheticMaster]

who care, you can do whatever the FK you wanna do

[Vindervar]

Like all good arguments both sides are true,

First of all on dieting, specifically iifym, it is atonishingly rare for a noob who is just starting out to even know what a macro nutrient is. It's taken me along time to acquire all the knowledge I have. So when the hodge twins say eat clean for your average gym noob this is the best advice until they are further educated. It's like Maths you don't start off with long complicated equations you start with the basics. You start telling some fat Kunt noob that it's easy to lose weight whilst eating pop tarts, which it undeniably is, guess what he stays fat because he keeps eating 10 a day.

Then for anyone willing to make bodybuilding there primary hobby iifym is the only reasonable way I can foresee leading a near conventional life. Yes sacrifices are made, but not nearly to the extent of the only clean eat bullsh.it. I have got fairly shredded tracking macros and eating at least 2 sources of very high gi carb or junk food everyday

No offense brah, you look decent in your avi.

But srsly? Who starts off bodybuilding without knowing what is a macronutrient? I'm talking serious bb-ing, not when you were 14-15 and just started doing bicep curls in the gym. Almost anyone would have heard the phrase "dieting is more important if you want to lose weight", plus you see your female friends/colleagues eating salads for lunch and saying that they want to shed off a few pounds. Also, if you frequent the BB.com forums, it is very rare if you have not heard of the IIFYM craze. I knew what was a macro like 3 months after I started seriously lifting. I knew it was a chore to count calories but it would give me the best results. Thought this was obvious to anyone.

[Ken-O]

Who cares OP, you know whats true so may as well do that and dont worry about others. At the end of the day, the hodge twins are helping noobs and average lifters out there that simply lack the self control and dedication to follow an IIFYM diet. These average lifters dont really see themselves looking like Zyzz or somebody like that, they just want to get in shape, and by eating clean and working out they will achieve that. A noob wont benefit from IIFYM because he simply wont follow it. If he is allowed 2 slices of pizza that day, he will eat another 2, or hell, half the pizza because it wont make much difference in his eyes and since he worked out so hard he deserves it. After all, there is no such thing as dirty food right?

Most people just want to go the easy way. They dont want to count calories, check how many grams of carbs this has and multiply it by 4, same for the protein and fats x 9 etc. They dont want to track their calories in an app all day and make sure they are burning only 500 cals and not 600 etc, average person is just not willing to go that deep, hence why they are out of shape in the first place.

[WIJG]

Why can't the average Joe count his macros? It's keeping track of 3 fukking numbers. You only need basic arithmetic to do that. I don't get how someone has the dedication to lift heavy ass weight, but not enough to keep track of 3 numbers.

[Tom117]

Repped. This.
Everyone was a noob at some point. As Our love for the iron game grew, (as well as muscles), we learn more. The twins r cool to me. I like the supp reviews and they're funny.
They give basic supps which is important, but at the end of the day it's entertainment.

Ok so you're saying their advice is for idiots who are too lazy to learn the basics?

Thank god I found the misc before these youtube retards. They spread misinformation and confuse noobs and cause them to believe broscience, not beneficial at all. Misc taught me everything I need to know, from cutting and bulking to celltech to programs like starting strength to form of deadlits and squats and etc. Hell I started by watching vids of that scooby lifting guy on youtube and I immediately thought hmm he sounds like hes spouting bs and went on here to find real information.

[Ashen]

Why can't the average Joe count his macros? It's keeping track of 3 fukking numbers. You only need basic arithmetic to do that. I don't get how someone has the dedication to lift heavy ass weight, but not enough to keep track of 3 numbers.

you stupid? srs

[good_fella]

No offense brah, you look decent in your avi.

But srsly? Who starts off bodybuilding without knowing what is a macronutrient? I'm talking serious bb-ing, not when you were 14-15 and just started doing bicep curls in the gym. Almost anyone would have heard the phrase "dieting is more important if you want to lose weight", plus you see your female friends/colleagues eating salads for lunch and saying that they want to shed off a few pounds. Also, if you frequent the BB.com forums, it is very rare if you have not heard of the IIFYM craze. I knew what was a macro like 3 months after I started seriously lifting. I knew it was a chore to count calories but it would give me the best results. Thought this was obvious to anyone.

What you say is of course true, what I'm trying to get at is the hodge twins offer advice at the very bottom of the learning curve, yes some people skip this through browsing places like the misc and picking up on iifym. But at the end of the day the clean dieting that they advocate is not 'wrong' per se just not as efficient as iifym. But for a noob totally fine as it will teach them about diet initially. I'd just like to add that I'm really not a fan of the hodge twins and I think Ian mc is brilliant, but I just don't believe the hodge twins can be called idiots outrightly

[Tom117]

you stupid? srs

He's right though, the question is are you stupid? Thank god I learned about macros early on otherwise I'd make no gains just like 99% of the rest the people at my gym. Some of these guys train hard but have no clue what bulking is or how much protein you need and make minimal gains.

[Szakalzg]

they say deadlift is a dangerous exercice, while for a noob, its probably the exercice that will yield the best results and give your body a good platform to build upon.

My god you are phucking retarded.

also age: 26

[Tom117]

Ian needs to spend less time making videos, and more time actually doing what he preaches because he has a sht body, and isn't making any improvements. Also sorry the hodgetwins and lui can't be correct about 100% of the things they say, at least they have good bodies and make progress. Also instead of hating on people giving free advice with no strings attached to help people, why don't you hate on the fitness industry which is using huge geared up dudes to market useless products to people. Lastly if you remember correctly Ians fat ass attacked them first.

Didn't Ian go from like 90 pounds to 180? Also his look is irrelevant, natural bb Ogus backed him up so does how he look change the science of it?