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03-29-2012, 05:57 PM #1
ITT: i'll answer any questions on strength training, mobility work, prehab, etc..
"on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
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03-29-2012, 05:59 PM #2
- Join Date: May 2011
- Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
- Age: 31
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Why does it seem like when my lifts for my bench progresses by lifts for my chest stagnates and vice versa. I can't ever progress on both lift(s) at the same time.
No real goal in terms of physique
5'5 128lbs
PRs at ~132-135lbs
Bench: 200
Deadlift: 315
Squat: =(
Currently working on DB pressing 100s (Current: 85s)
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03-29-2012, 06:01 PM #3"on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
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03-29-2012, 06:03 PM #4
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03-29-2012, 06:03 PM #5
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03-29-2012, 06:07 PM #6
what i'd reccomend for speed is based entirely on how much you are willing to change your current programming. just give me a general template of your style of programming and days you work and i'll do my best to do work something out.
also, if you know your current speed on any sprint that is accurate and a standing long jump distance/vert it would help a lot.
no clue, I was busy running in circles when I was your age."on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-29-2012, 06:08 PM #7
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03-29-2012, 06:08 PM #8
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03-29-2012, 06:14 PM #9
I can answer that for you.
When I first maxed out when I was 14, my bench press was 145 lbs. Squat was 225 lbs. Hang clean was an embarassing 105 lbs.
Three or four months later (Still 14!), I got my bench press to 190 lbs. Squat to 295 lbs. Hang clean was 155 lbs. I was stronger than most of the freshman football players, but I was far from the strongest.
From what I could tell, average was pretty much bench pressing your body weight and squatting at least 1.25 times your body weight. I dunno about hang clean.Kids have "swag", men have class.
Current Lift Stat:
Bench Press: 300 lbs
Squat: 225x8, ???
Deadlift: ???
Goal:
Bench Press: 315 lbs before end of this school year.
Squat: 405 lbs before end of this school year.
Deadlift 385 lbs before end of this school year.
FYI, I'm not a native English speaker, so I may mess up at typing sometimes.
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03-29-2012, 06:18 PM #10
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03-29-2012, 06:19 PM #11
foam rolling and static/dynamic stretches are definitely a big part. I like to hit the legs from every angles until the tight spots release (hurts like a bitch) and then from there I'll take a baseball for my entire back around the spine. after that, i hit the hips with a hard medicine ball (30 pounds should do) which is by far the most painful but also the most useful.
other things I like to do are lots of contrast showers, fighting mobility training, and the thing that i attribute a lot of my tendon strength to is the use of very high rep burnout sets. I do them for almost every major lift but mainly on squats and rows. I have yet to have any nagging tendonitis in my knees regardless of the retarded amount of volume I use
i'd cut If I were you at that weight and BF%. a simple low volume strength routine a few days would allow you to maintain if not gain strength, depending on your experience level. once you reach a goal look you can start slowly adding cals and volume. IDK if you'd want to take bodybuilding advice from me though. almost everything I do on that end is contrary to popular belief."on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-29-2012, 06:20 PM #12"on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-29-2012, 06:29 PM #13
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03-29-2012, 06:47 PM #14"on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-29-2012, 06:54 PM #15
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03-29-2012, 07:01 PM #16
control and tension vs speed is pretty much the only difference. right now I am trying to build size, so I am focusing on having better control of the weights(also translates to higher top end strength), smoother reps, and higher reps/less volume. when I am just trying to get strong as sh*t it all comes down to speed and i begin to train more like an athlete.
i'll keep rep days in but I'll up the volume while upping the intensity a bit for the strength work days. instead of doing straight sets for squats of 10 to build muscle, i'll do something like 5 triples with a decent weight and just focus on speed and power. plyometrics, sprints, and strongman work make up a lot of my training.
ie: my squat workout from monday was as follow,
standing long jumps
one legged box jump
a cns warmup
squats
double
single
four
20
band squats
5x3 speed
3
2
1
2
5"on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-29-2012, 07:10 PM #17
the only thing i really know about my speed is my 40 yard time, which is like a 4.9 on a good day
routine:
sunday: max effort lower
monday: off
tuesday: max effort upper
wednesday: off
thursday: repetition lower
friday: repetition upper
saturday: off
after my lower days i condition since im already tired from heavy squatting/deads, then after my upper days is where i would like to include speed/agility/performance work since my legs will be more fresh
im pretty flexibile tho
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03-29-2012, 07:36 PM #18
alright that's not a bad speed to start with really. I ran a 6.65 60yd, IDK that would convert really though. I was better at stuff like the 100-400m. these also, IME, are the types of races that build the most top end maximal speed and a lot of people that train for them have freaky squats.
if you are at your goal weight now, I'd take out the rep day entirely. scrap all the sh*t you do and just do light speed squats or front squats. everything else would be filled in with
1st plyometrics for 4 sets of 3 or so can be anything(broad jumps, depth jumps, and my personal favorite the one legged box jump)
2nd starts. just go to a track and start at the 100m start line. get to about 30m as fast as you can to work on acceleration. do this for about 4-6 times and take lots of rest. this **** breaks you down if you aren't used to it.
3rd would be an alternating sprint workout. one that is hard. and another that is much lighter, restorative, etc...
hard workouts would alternate between breakdowns and building sprints.
breakdowns, run 400m, walk 400m, immediately run 300m, walk 300m, 200,walk 200, 100,walk 100, 55m, done. make sure to take your time to get your wind back between sets. it's always better to take longer rests, so that speed isn't sacrificed.
building sprints. you run a 200m sprint at a decent pace, run another one a second faster, so on and so forth. you should start with 4 and gradually build up to 8ish before football starts. the 200m is a distance where almost anyone will be running at max speed for a deal of time. it's great to get your body to get used to firing fast.
an easy workout could be something like six 100m sprints at a challenging but not crazy pace or 400m training. something I would do for my workouts was 16 400m sprints in a pyramid up in pace and then pyramids down again.
also, work on mobility a ton and start taking contrast showers if you aren't.
speed kills in football dude. my school's team wanted me to play D end senior year because I would've been the fastest and strongest kid on the team at 170 pounds. lol"on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-29-2012, 07:40 PM #19
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03-29-2012, 07:41 PM #20
- Join Date: May 2011
- Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
- Age: 31
- Posts: 190
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Whoops, I typed that quickly then went to take a nap. I meant.
"Why does it seem like when my lifts for my BACK progresses my lifts for my chest stagnates and vice versa. I can't ever progress on both lift(s) at the same time."
As in when ever I hit PR's on my deadlift and other back exercises my chest workouts on my next gm workout suck.No real goal in terms of physique
5'5 128lbs
PRs at ~132-135lbs
Bench: 200
Deadlift: 315
Squat: =(
Currently working on DB pressing 100s (Current: 85s)
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03-29-2012, 07:51 PM #21
barbell complexes.
now add reps to each exercise you see and do it for sets. I would do this as 5 reps of deadlifts, rows, clean, front squat, push press, back squat(10reps), press it back and my heart would be fukking racing. it's great for conditioning. prowlers are awesome too
well, deadlifts are a very taxing exercise. doing them every week will definitely take a bit out of you and that is exactly the reason I don't do them more then once every 3 weeks or so. not saying you shouldn't be doing them every week at your level, i'm just trying to say that exercise is taxing and doing one thing balls to the wall heavy will only hamper your strength on the other lifts."on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-29-2012, 08:02 PM #22
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03-29-2012, 08:18 PM #23
damn, why didnt u plan then?
for plyometrics, could i just pick like a tuck jump (cant do box jump, dont have boxes) and just jump as high as possible ? just not on to an object?
should i do box jumps + broad? or just box?
hows this look?
monday:
Box Jumps: 3x3
20 yd shuttle: 5 sets, 2 min rest between sets
30 yard sprints: 5 sets
Tire Flips
thursday:
Box Jumps: 3x3
3 cone drill: 5 sets
breakdowns (as you described)
Tire Flips
edit: also any ideas for conditioning? or do u think breakdowns are good conditioning?Last edited by Nood; 03-29-2012 at 08:24 PM.
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03-29-2012, 08:28 PM #24"on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-30-2012, 07:21 AM #25
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03-30-2012, 12:06 PM #26"on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-30-2012, 02:37 PM #27
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03-30-2012, 05:11 PM #28"on the bech press i usually start off with 205 doing it 5 times then once i ad my usual extra 5 pounds on i can barely do it twice. How can i increase my chest cardio? so i can rep heavy weight easier" -dc1992hp
come by and check out my log. I'm racing to a 275x5 bench and 185x3 strict press with comps.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141680751
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03-30-2012, 06:44 PM #29
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