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    What works for you doesn't work for someone else. (discuss)

    I hear this all time. But, everytime i hear it, i wonder. How can someone not make gains on someone elses workout.
    "I tried squatting this way for months but didnt see any results, it just didnt work for me."
    Factors of why it didnt work
    - didnt push hard enough
    - didnt eat enough or correctly
    - didnt use proper weight/form.
    - didnt train consisently

    Im not talking about some random ass workout that doesnt make any sense, im talking about a legit workout with basic movements that are proven to bring results.
    How can Squats, deads, and bench press using Progressive overload in a certain rep range not work for an individual?
    I mean yeah, people might get better results training in a certain rep range (still will bring results because of progressive overload), but in the end it all comes down to your diet and how bad you want it.
    Like working each muscle twice a week doesnt work for me so i do a 4 day split. But working muscles twice a week is proven by science to be more effective than a bodybuilding split.

    Like starting strength for example. Theres no way this routine cant work for someone starting out. I just dont believe it.

    im not saying everything will work for everyone but im saying basics will work for every one.
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    I'd agree about 90% of the time this is true.

    The other 10 does take some individualization.
    Every aspiring lad wants to be a bodybuilder, but by George, nobody wants to elevate these burdensome weights.

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    Originally Posted by itwasntme184 View Post
    I'd agree about 90% of the time this is true.

    The other 10 does take some individualization.
    everyone who says this, you can just look at them. And see that they are no where near dedicated enough to stick to plan and follow through. The ones who do get results and the ones who dont fail. The people who half ass in the gym and get results and say this way of training works for them are more likey to have better genetics.
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    Originally Posted by xpin2winx View Post
    everyone who says this, you can just look at them. And see that they are no where near dedicated enough to stick to plan and follow through. The ones who do get results and the ones who dont fail. The people who half ass in the gym and get results and say this way of training works for them are more likey to have better genetics.
    I mean yeah genetics is the other 10%, everyone has different proportions/limb lengths/natty strength/muscle comp etc.
    Every aspiring lad wants to be a bodybuilder, but by George, nobody wants to elevate these burdensome weights.

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    I find my upper body responds alot better to higher weight low reps but with my legs i'm not to sure just yet. I think a routine should be tailored to an individual rather than following a set guideline.
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    Originally Posted by itwasntme184 View Post
    I mean yeah genetics is the other 10%, everyone has different proportions/limb lengths/natty strength/muscle comp etc.
    i meant to include that also. Modifying basic movements to fit your structure.
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    It mostly has to do with personal preference. If you don't like a routine, you will not put much effort into it, and will insist that it does not 'work for you'. If you enjoy a routine you will make good gains, if you don't, you will have **** gains.
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    I agree that heavy compound movements when done correctly will always yield the best results for people. I think part of why it "doesn't work" is that people either use too much weight, are too scared to add more weight, don't believe they can lift it, don't use proper form, or are afraid to deload for ego reasons.

    However I think there are some movements that just seem better suited for more people.. i.e. I love upright rows and don't get pain from them, whereas I've encountered many who hate them because they hurt themselves, even with good form. I come from a family with horrible posture and so mine is as well, so deadlifting with good form is more of a challenge to me then it is to most others (probably). Not an excuse not to do it at all, just sayin, sometimes people's bodies are more geared toward specific movements, though heavy compounds are staples in any and all sensible routines for a reason.
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    It mostly has to do with personal preference. If you don't like a routine, you will not put much effort into it, and will insist that it does not 'work for you'. If you enjoy a routine you will make good gains, if you don't, you will have **** gains.
    Yup I agree with this. Its has to do with instinctive training
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