Just a quick question. Two weeks ago, I had a deadlift PR, of 190 lbs. Pale in comparison to most of you here, but I was happy with it, since I hadn't maxed in quite a while. I had longer, fake fingernails for a time, and attributed the slipping of my grip to them... now they're gone (fake nails)...and my nails are much shorter. I thought that it was the longer nails that caused my grip to slip at times, but not the case. It's not both hands, just my right hand, that I just can't seem to keep firm as I'm lifting heavier. Don't have the issue with the left hand. Same issue when I do shrugs. Frustrating.
Just wondering as I continue to lift heavier, does the 'problem' just correct itself? Or if you've struggled with this, was there anything you did to bring about improvement? TIA for any thoughts/advice you have.
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Thread: Grip strength
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03-26-2012, 06:56 AM #1
Grip strength
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03-26-2012, 07:01 AM #2
Chalk and a hook grip saved my deadlift. Some advise straps or versagrips, so that's an option for you, too. One time when I forgot to bring my chalk to the gym, I was trying to pull 305, about 20 pounds down from what I'd pulled the week before, and my grip kept giving way. The chalk really does make a difference for me.
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03-26-2012, 07:06 AM #3
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03-26-2012, 07:12 AM #5
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Yeah, just work your grip. Deadlifting double overhand without straps is one way to work your grip. You can also do grippers, wrist roller, static holds, but to improve grip strength for deadlifting, deadlifting without any grip assistance ( straps, or mixed grip ) is the best way.
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03-26-2012, 07:13 AM #6
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I have a mixed feeling about the whole training grip strength thing.
I mean, I don't target my grip strength specifically on any day/routine. It has, however, increased dramatically over the last few months. And, I swear my grip is getting tested daily, weighted pullups/chinups, deads, bb/db shrugs, hammer curls.. the list goes on...
I'd recommend, if you need grips and/or chaulk to hit higher weights/reps to go ahead and use it.
I'd also recommend NOT using those aids for the sets where you do not need them, and therefore continue to build grip strength. Don't make it a crutch.. if you will.
I continue to watch my grip strength progress..
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03-26-2012, 07:15 AM #7
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Congrats on the PR!
Get yourself a heavy duty gripper or two. www.Ironmind.com make good quality grippers that are sort of the standard. You could probably close a '#1' but get a 'trainer' as well just in case. The grippers are good for convenient overall hands strength but they are just a part of the picture.
Load up a bar very heavy in a power/squat rack, set the bars just below your deadlift lockout, lift, and hold for time.
Theres a lot more you can do for grip as its a huge subject, but these are easy ways you can train it in most gyms.My training log:
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03-26-2012, 07:26 AM #8
Thanks everyone for your opinions to this.
Sitting here, it just dawned on me...that I use an underhand grip for the left hand, and overhand for the right. Frankly, that could be the problem right there...the ''weaker'' hand ...I should use the underhand grip. I want to say I have tried that, and it felt awkward ...but next time I do deadlifts, I'll try that. I did them on Sat, for reps, and went up to a mere 130 for 8 reps, and felt my right hand slipping. *argh* Frustrating perhaps, more than anything.
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03-26-2012, 07:43 AM #9
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When I first got back into the gym, my lifting ability surpassed my grip strength pretty quick. I used whatever I needed to use to augment (Versagrips, hooks) until my grip caught up. Which it did by itself from normal training demands with little "extra" work needed.
I use a mixed grip with just a little chalk now. Except for heavy RDLs, I get my hooks out for those."A champion is someone who gets up even when he can't" ---Jack Dempsey
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03-26-2012, 08:21 AM #11
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I used to have grip strength problem and tendinitis in my wrists that I really thought would never get better. I think deadlifts were the best thing ever for those problems I had. Now my grip and body seem to have caught up with each other. I think chalk was a big part of that.
However, it will just about always be my left hand grip that gets me on DL failure.
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03-26-2012, 08:33 AM #12
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03-26-2012, 08:38 AM #13
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03-26-2012, 08:43 AM #14
Just another chime in for chalk. Last Wednesday I deadlifted and forgot my chalk for the first time ever. The week before I pulled 365 for 5 reps and should have done 370 but had problems gripping at 305 so had to give up. HUGE difference between chalk and no chalk for me.
Our gym doesn't have chalk and really doesn't allow it. I carry it in a ziplock baggy wrapped in a towel so I make no mess at all and clean the bar when I'm done. No one has said anything yet. Chalk is less than $10 here on bb.com for 8 blocks which will last literally years and years if you just use it for deadlifting.
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03-26-2012, 09:06 AM #17
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03-26-2012, 09:07 AM #18
appreciate that, sb.
i didn't care for deadlifts much when i first started. over time, i have grown to consider it a staple in my own routine. i used to have a weak back, and didn't now how much so, until i started deadlifting. interestingly, it's touted a lot in magazines, but i too like you, don't see too many @ the gym doing deadlifts. on here however, different story. the stories are quite inspiring!
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03-26-2012, 09:10 AM #19
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03-26-2012, 09:30 AM #24
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Tried to drop you dead lift reps WEG, but it wouldn't let me, says I have to spread it around first, . They are on spread....
I have grip issues at my working weights also, so I use straps when I go 275 and over and get into my work sets.
Everyone is using different numbers, so they don't matter, but I agree with others that you should do as much as possible without any aids, then use them at the peak weights you use as needed. The focus should be on the work, not your grip.
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03-26-2012, 11:27 AM #26
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I can't really say when it happened. I just notice one day my grip strength had gotten stronger and the tendinitis in my wrists went away.
My best guess was that it was from deadlifting with the use of chalk.
When I first started lifting I thought the tendinitis in my wrists would get the best of me. Sometimes my hands would be numb and tingle for days. That pain is a distant memory now.
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03-26-2012, 12:09 PM #27
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03-26-2012, 12:31 PM #28
try adding the following into your workouts
1) wristrollers (aim for heavy weight)
2) Pinchgripping
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03-26-2012, 12:57 PM #29
glad to hear you're pain free now.
hai...thanks mike! double overhand is worse. my left hand isn't as bad as the right...but with overhand double grip, they both start slipping. i am going to do the chalk idea...and see how it goes.
farmers walks...i had done these at the urging of another post here ...not consistently though. i totally forgot about those, and you're right. i bet they might help me out with this. appreciate it.
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03-26-2012, 01:50 PM #30
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