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    I know I'm going to get banned for this but...

    Some of you may remember that I was asking nosy questions a couple of months back, for a book I was writing. Well, the book has been accepted, and will be published in June. But right now, I've got an editor who is unhappy with a few things, so I'm hoping you can help me.

    Basically, I've got a scene where the hero is having a steamy phone call to the heroine and my editor thinks his er, response time is too fast, and not something a normal guy could manage.

    My hero is a 34 year old ex-Marine who has 7% bodyfat. He lifts heavy and does deadlifts and ATG squats to failure. For someone like that, what do you guys think is the fastest he could reasonably go from "Not interested" to "Done"?

    I don't mind if you answer here, or PM me, but I'd like to have an idea of a reasonable time before the weekend, when the edits to back.
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    Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    Some of you may remember that I was asking nosy questions a couple of months back, for a book I was writing. Well, the book has been accepted, and will be published in June. But right now, I've got an editor who is unhappy with a few things, so I'm hoping you can help me.

    Basically, I've got a scene where the hero is having a steamy phone call to the heroine and my editor thinks his er, response time is too fast, and not something a normal guy could manage.

    My hero is a 34 year old ex-Marine who has 7% bodyfat. He lifts heavy and does deadlifts and ATG squats to failure. For someone like that, what do you guys think is the fastest he could reasonably go from "Not interested" to "Done"?

    I don't mind if you answer here, or PM me, but I'd like to have an idea of a reasonable time before the weekend, when the edits to back.
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    I've just posted the same question on an Irish board, and already had 16 replies, including the guy who gave a lecture on how his deadlift technique would translate into thrust pattern and firing time. They reckon that with determination and a steely grip, 90 seconds is possible.
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    Lotion involved?

    It's all in the grip, hopefully he doesn't have crazy sharp calluses from all those deads though. I'd assume he does which might delay him a bit, I agree with 3 min, hell even 2 if he's really into the girl.
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    Should there be lotion? There was a question about chalk to improve the grip on the Irish board.
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    if he's a military type then he should be used to responding as quickly as possible.So I'd say 5 seconds
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    The Irish lads were a lot more vocal when I asked the same question.

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    There are factors to be considered: is he really into her, was he anticipating the call and its heated direction, is it a slow sensual convo. or down and dirty, when is the last time he released?
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    Originally Posted by Brakh View Post
    There are factors to be considered: is he really into her, was he anticipating the call and its heated direction, is it a slow sensual convo. or down and dirty, when is the last time he released?
    All very valid points....
    Assuming he is into her, the convo was sensual/dirty or whatever he's into and he hadn't rubbed one out in the previous hour or so. I would say under 2 minutes if there are no distractions.
    And yes there should defenatly be lotion. Idk how they do it in ireland but chalk really ?
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    He is into her, the conversation was dirty, and it had been the previous night.
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    Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    He is into her, the conversation was dirty, and it had been the previous night.
    Yea I agree with nowheateater, make that 2 minutes. That dirty girl, I bet she wants it good and he's ready to give it to her.
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    Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    "Not interested" to "Done"?
    I think this is impossible. As a guy, I'm either interested but can't have sex or not interested and wont have sex. There is not the Not interested, but willing.

    If there was "non-productive" phone sex the night before, he was already primed with 1 in the chamber, safety off, finger on trigger, target sighted. So 90 - 180 seconds sounds legit.
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    I would say 90-120 seconds sounds about right, it depends far more on last release than any other factor though. A note about lotion though, getting it done that way is a very american thing, being Irish he'd be uncut (unless he's a muslim or a jew), uncut guys don't typically need lotion as the friction limitations are not the same.
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    Originally Posted by Sali217 View Post
    I would say 90-120 seconds sounds about right, it depends far more on last release than any other factor though. A note about lotion though, getting it done that way is a very american thing, being Irish he'd be uncut (unless he's a muslim or a jew), uncut guys don't typically need lotion as the friction limitations are not the same.
    Interesting point, and one I hadn't considered. He's American.
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    Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    Interesting point, and one I hadn't considered. He's American.
    Rereading the OP I have no idea where the hell I got the idea that he was Irish from.
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    Originally Posted by Sali217 View Post
    Rereading the OP I have no idea where the hell I got the idea that he was Irish from.
    Because I am?

    But the publisher is American, and comes down like a ton of bricks on Irish-isms. Even if the novel is set in Ireland, the characters still have to talk and behave American. Sometimes I feel like I need a translation service.
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    My hero is a 34 year old ex-Marine
    Why are you still calling him an ex-Marine...? Was he dishonorably or other-than-honorably discharged?
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    Former Marine. But I asked some people who used to be Marines about the ex/former thing, and they said they didn't care either way.
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    So if you want to know what I did with your answers, the book is out today.

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    Former Marine. But I asked some people who used to be Marines about the ex/former thing, and they said they didn't care either way.
    Marines, in Amererica, tend to go by retired, as opposed to ex, or former. Once a Marine, always a Marine.
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    So if you want to know what I did with your answers, the book is out today.

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    Congrats!
    Thanks. I just got a review on Amazon saying my hero is too nice. Come on, you shouldn't have to be a bastard to get the girl.
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