The OR is Officially DEAD? Insomn+buddies chat OR related

[HairyScandinavian]

Clever hobbitses

Lets hear everyones input on what car I should look into buying

-Used
-Not foreign
-Gud on gas
-No performance chit

Smart Car

[insomniac23]

buy a civic *******


lettuce be real tea, majority of American CARS are pure chit. inb4 2k has a hissyfit

[DennisR1977]

buy a civic *******


lettuce be real tea, majority of American CARS are pure chit. inb4 2k has a hissyfit

Not to mention they aren't even American made anymore. Most of the assembly is done in Mexico or Canada. Hell even hyundai, Toyota, Honda, and Subaru have assembly plants here in the states.

[Farley1324]

Not to mention they aren't even American made anymore. Most of the assembly is done in Mexico or Canada. Hell even hyundai, Toyota, Honda, and Subaru have assembly plants here in the states.

My American vehicles were made in America.

[DennisR1977]

My American vehicles were made in America.

Which would those be? I worked as a Chevy mechanic for 8 years, and never saw a part I put on that said, made in America.

[Farley1324]

Which would those be? I worked as a Chevy mechanic for 8 years, and never saw a part I put on that said, made in America.

Just a second now, you clearly stated:

Not to mention they aren't even American made anymore. Most of the assembly is done in Mexico or Canada. Hell even hyundai, Toyota, Honda, and Subaru have assembly plants here in the states.

Is your primary concern the location of assembly, or the source of the parts?

Where are those Toyota, Honda, and Subaru parts coming from?

[DennisR1977]

Just a second now, you clearly stated:




Is your primary concern the location of assembly, or the source of the parts?

Where are those Toyota, Honda, and Subaru parts coming from?

Even all the assembly isn't done here in the states by any of the big 3. Parts are part of assembly.

I wasn't claiming they were all American made, but they're just as American as the big 3 now.

[Farley1324]

Even all the assembly isn't done here in the states by any of the big 3. Parts are part of assembly.

I wasn't claiming they were all American made, but they're just as American as the big 3 now.

Okay. By what measure did you come to this conclusion?


BTW: My American vehicles were assembled in America.

[Turbomunkey]

buy a civic *******


lettuce be real tea, majority of American CARS are pure chit. inb4 2k has a hissyfit

Not to mention they aren't even American made anymore. Most of the assembly is done in Mexico or Canada. Hell even hyundai, Toyota, Honda, and Subaru have assembly plants here in the states.

These nigas No civic. Fuark buying cars sucks now. Brb front wheel drive. Brb have to change spark plug, remove engine

[HairyScandinavian]

I wasn't claiming they were all American made, but they're just as American as the big 3 now.

Just as American as the Big 3? Where do the corporate profits go? Where are the owners/shareholders who are making the profits?

[HairyScandinavian]

To the guys who were asking about the Platinum Series products/log a couple pages back, I never heard back more than that blank PM about including yall. I see they're still shipping out products to people though. Shoot KateKennedy a PM to inquire about it, tell her you been following my log and FastCatChamp and some of the others and you want in and definitely include a link to the other logs you've done in the past for reference. They sent me about $230 worth of products and so far all seem pretty legit so it's worth pursuing. If you're wondering WTH I'm talking aboot look at the link in me sig.

[Farley1324]

To the guys who were asking about the Platinum Series products/log a couple pages back, I never heard back more than that blank PM about including yall. I see they're still shipping out products to people though. Shoot KateKennedy a PM to inquire about it, tell her you been following my log and FastCatChamp and some of the others and you want in and definitely include a link to the other logs you've done in the past for reference. They sent me about $230 worth of products and so far all seem pretty legit so it's worth pursuing. If you're wondering WTH I'm talking aboot look at the link in me sig.

This doesn't have anything to do with you or FCC or anything, but this is what they/she sent me, I got it last week:

The protein is fukking good.

[HairyScandinavian]

Yep that's the stuff. Hola and insomniac and Turbo are wanting to get in on it. So far I've tried the vanilla and it's pretty good, just a little chalky but not a bad chalky and it's nice and thick. The Inciner-8 lights me up in the mornings but doesn't hit as hard in the afternoons, and the Amino Recovery tastes freaking great. I've not cracked the Scream and Alpha yet, but will be doing so in a month when I switch from a deficit to surplus calories. I can't wait to dig into the Chocolate Protogen, might have to crack that one before I run out of the vanilla.

[meatjesus]

I know that mostly everything in this industry isnt FDA approved. Have these products been out for a while or are you guys essentially beta testing these sups?

[HairyScandinavian]

I know that mostly everything in this industry isnt FDA approved. Have these products been out for a while or are you guys essentially beta testing these sups?

The ingredients are nothing new, this is the new bb.com branded product line though. Good stuff so far IMO but that Pre has a HELL of a lot of caffeine in it so I plan to run it at half dose tops.

[Farley1324]

I know that mostly everything in this industry isnt FDA approved. Have these products been out for a while or are you guys essentially beta testing these sups?

They are new products. I don't worry much about the content when it is an established company.

What we are essentially doing is supplementing their marketing department.

It's not like these are all new ingredients or anything. It's not like this is some new to the scene company with 1,3 and caffeine in a prop blend.

[Farley1324]

The ingredients are nothing new, this is the new bb.com branded product line though. Good stuff so far IMO but that Pre has a HELL of a lot of caffeine in it so I plan to run it at half dose tops.

The pre (Scream) has 300mg of caffeine, which is pretty much the maximum recommended 'safe' dosage. There are multiple other pre workouts with the same amount. I had been using Universal Animal Rage (pills), which also has 300mg IIRC. The good thing about the Scream in the bb.com line is that it actually tells you right on the label how much caffeine there is.

BTW: You want to talk about stims...check out the old 1M.R. (1 more rep)...IIRC it has 300mg caffeine AND like 25 mg 1,3.

[HairyScandinavian]

The pre (Scream) has 300mg of caffeine, which is pretty much the maximum recommended 'safe' dosage. There are multiple other pre workouts with the same amount. I had been using Universal Animal Rage (pills), which also has 300mg IIRC. The good thing about the Scream in the bb.com line is that it actually tells you right on the label how much caffeine there is.

BTW: You want to talk about stims...check out the old 1M.R. (1 more rep)...IIRC it has 300mg caffeine AND like 25 mg 1,3.

Yep, I've used a bunch of samples of the 1MR and I always ran that at half dose as well, that and jack3d too. I try to be really careful because I've had chest pains in the past and sometimes feels like my heart is going to jump out of my chest, at night even when it's beating slow it feels like it's beating really hard sometimes. I hit the doc and he put me on a machine, said he can't guarantee I won't die soon but he guarantees it won't be my heart so all is well I just like to play it safe because I just don't feel right sometimes. The biggies issue I notice is sleeplessness when I run too much caffeine in a day, like I'll fall asleep for 5 mins and then wake up and stare at the ceiling for hours at a time. I know is EC stack lights me the eff up big time and that's 200mg at a time so I try to stay around 100mg tops with pre-workouts and of course don't take any if I happen to be running EC. One thing I really like about the Inciner-8 is that a dose (3 pills) comes in at only 100mg which is nice for a fat burner, that way I can still have green tea or coffee or whatever at work and not have to worry about overstim from caffeine.

[Farley1324]

Yep, I've used a bunch of samples of the 1MR and I always ran that at half dose as well, that and jack3d too. I try to be really careful because I've had chest pains in the past and sometimes feels like my heart is going to jump out of my chest, at night even when it's beating slow it feels like it's beating really hard sometimes. I hit the doc and he put me on a machine, said he can't guarantee I won't die soon but he guarantees it won't be my heart so all is well I just like to play it safe because I just don't feel right sometimes. The biggies issue I notice is sleeplessness when I run too much caffeine in a day, like I'll fall asleep for 5 mins and then wake up and stare at the ceiling for hours at a time. I know is EC stack lights me the eff up big time and that's 200mg at a time so I try to stay around 100mg tops with pre-workouts and of course don't take any if I happen to be running EC. One thing I really like about the Inciner-8 is that a dose (3 pills) comes in at only 100mg which is nice for a fat burner, that way I can still have green tea or coffee or whatever at work and not have to worry about overstim from caffeine.

Yeah, but that's because of the E more than the C. Plus they are synergistic.

I wouldn't worry about 200mg of caffeine when you aren't combining it with another stimulant. Or even 300mg, if you really need a kick in the ass.

Also, this is just me...but if you are worried about stims I wouldn't take 1,3 or ephedrine PERIOD.

I have ephedrine but I decided to never take it (only sold half of it, if anybody is interested...). I used to take 1,3 but swore it off like a year ago. I'll still take 200-300mg of caffeine though. Seems much 'safer' to me

[HairyScandinavian]

Yeah, but that's because of the E more than the C. Plus they are synergistic.

I wouldn't worry about 200mg of caffeine when you aren't combining it with another stimulant. Or even 300mg, if you really need a kick in the ass.

Also, this is just me...but if you are worried about stims I wouldn't take 1,3 or ephedrine PERIOD.

I have ephedrine but I decided to never take it (only sold half of it, if anybody is interested...). I used to take 1,3 but swore it off like a year ago. I'll still take 200-300mg of caffeine though. Seems much 'safer' to me

Yeah but these pre's with 300mg caffeine do combine other stims in there as well. You're right though EC is a bit more aggressive than most of the other things. I'll take that E off your hands, getting tired of medicating myself with Bronkaid. Shoot me a PM with details.

[Farley1324]

Yeah but these pre's with 300mg caffeine do combine other stims in there as well. You're right though EC is a bit more aggressive than most of the other things. I'll take that E off your hands, getting tired of medicating myself with Bronkaid. Shoot me a PM with details.

The pres with 300mg of caffeine don't have anything at all like 1,3 or ephedrine in them, though.

PM inbound

[HairyScandinavian]

The pres with 300mg of caffeine don't have anything at all like 1,3 or ephedrine in them, though.

PM inbound

Tru dat. Some of them are so cryptic as to what exactly is in there though you have to wonder. The Platinum Series is nice about that like you said though, exact ingredients and quantities are listed clearly on the label... I like that.

[Farley1324]

Tru dat. Some of them are so cryptic as to what exactly is in there though you have to wonder. The Platinum Series is nice about that like you said though, exact ingredients and quantities are listed clearly on the label... I like that.

Label transparency is the way of the future...I hope. Propriety blends need to fukking die.

Maybe new legislation will force that on the industry. I think it's ridiculous to put things like caffeine + 1,3 into a product and not tell people how much there is.

[Turbomunkey]

Hairy pm sent to kate. We shall see what comes of it. Would be a good motivation cause I am tired of cutting really

[insomniac23]

Not to mention they aren't even American made anymore. Most of the assembly is done in Mexico or Canada. Hell even hyundai, Toyota, Honda, and Subaru have assembly plants here in the states.

qft. i always lol when people talk chit on them

Hairy pm sent to kate. We shall see what comes of it. Would be a good motivation cause I am tired of cutting really

you didnt even log your promera supps for 2 weeks...wtf man

These nigas No civic. Fuark buying cars sucks now. Brb front wheel drive. Brb have to change spark plug, remove engine

a civic or corrolla would be the best two cars you could get. stop being ignorant

[Turbomunkey]

you didnt even log your promera supps for 2 weeks...wtf man

a civic or corrolla would be the best two cars you could get. stop being ignorant

Dont make me jock on youre hater bra. Im confident any modern manufacture car will suite you fine so long as you dont beat on it and go through the normal maintenance. My 94 ranger has 153k on it and still starts right up and pulls when I floor it. Unfortunately the gaskets dont age well apparently


oh and gun porn



Mirin fkin hard

[DennisR1977]

Just as American as the Big 3? Where do the corporate profits go? Where are the owners/shareholders who are making the profits?

Which economy is the money that's paid to the workers going in to? The big 3 need to step up their game and start building here as much as the imports do, and they better start putting out a better product. So far only ford has seen their faults, the other 2 beat their chests on name recognition.

No different than Harley. I challenge you to go in to a Harley store and find something that says made in America, good luck. Plus they are wanting to cut out R&D, they figure they build it to spec, it won't need testing and it'll be fine. Another example o beating their chests on name recognition.

[Farley1324]

Which economy is the money that's paid to the workers going in to? The big 3 need to step up their game and start building here as much as the imports do, and they better start putting out a better product. So far only ford has seen their faults, the other 2 beat their chests on name recognition.

No different than Harley. I challenge you to go in to a Harley store and find something that says made in America, good luck. Plus they are wanting to cut out R&D, they figure they build it to spec, it won't need testing and it'll be fine. Another example o beating their chests on name recognition.

Do you have numbers showing that the imports manufacture more here than the Big 3?

Can I see these numbers?

[meatjesus]

Do you have numbers showing that the imports manufacture more here than the Big 3?

Can I see these numbers?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...-plants-4.html

Neat site ^ . Doesn't show numbers, but shows what and where they are made.

[Farley1324]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...-plants-4.html

Neat site ^ . Doesn't show numbers, but shows what and where they are made.

The list of models for each of the Big 3 sure looks a lot longer than the list of models for the imports.