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    Pre workouts and military

    Well just recently been reading the news on Jack3d/1-3dimeth/the old 1.M.R, flushed them all down the toilet cause I cbf getting in trouble for it with these random drug test. So my question is guide me in the right direction for a good preworkout w/o anything that will make me fail a drug test. I've been looking at Craze/Animal Rage/Assault, kinda stim crazy which is why I used 1-3dimeth but now's my time to get off it. Help a brah out.
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    i doubt the military will start testing for 1,3
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    Originally Posted by matt_nyc View Post
    i doubt the military will start testing for 1,3
    1,3's already banned on AF bases, been doing my research and honestly don't want to risk it. I've heard Marines/Army are good so far for it.
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    Originally Posted by ImThatOneKid View Post
    1,3's already banned on AF bases, been doing my research and honestly don't want to risk it. I've heard Marines/Army are good so far for it.
    Don't worry they only banned it at the PX/BX plus its expensive to test you for those banned ingredients that the military won't waste their money on.
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    Originally Posted by vicesoldier View Post
    Don't worry they only banned it at the PX/BX plus its expensive to test you for those banned ingredients that the military won't waste their money on.
    From threads I've read on here and other forums it's coming up as Amphetamines aka meth. Plus I'm in tech school so any slight hint of drugs and I'm outta here.

    Tried white flood, energy was meh. Good product though just not for me.

    Looking more towards Craze/Assault/Animal Rage etc. Leaning towards Craze right now, unsure if it has 1,3dimeth, from what I can tell it doesn't.
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    Originally Posted by ImThatOneKid View Post
    From threads I've read on here and other forums it's coming up as Amphetamines aka meth. Plus I'm in tech school so any slight hint of drugs and I'm outta here.

    Tried white flood, energy was meh. Good product though just not for me.

    Looking more towards Craze/Assault/Animal Rage etc. Leaning towards Craze right now, unsure if it has 1,3dimeth, from what I can tell it doesn't.
    It does not have any, and trust me I have read the regs in the military. Unless something has changed this fiscal year you don't have anything to worry about in craze. Just stay way from jack3d since that's the one under the scope

    I'm an MP(CID) so I've kept up to date on the regs in da, dod and etc...
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    Originally Posted by vicesoldier View Post
    It does not have any, and trust me I have read the regs in the military. Unless something has changed this fiscal year you don't have anything to worry about in craze. Just stay way from jack3d since that's the one under the scope

    I'm an MP(CID) so I've kept up to date on the regs in da, dod and etc...
    I guess Craze it is.
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    If you're an avid Jack3d user keep using it. It does not contain illegal ingredients. I've read the message traffic stating it will cause you to pop on a urinalysis and proved them to be wrong. Read the lables.
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    Originally Posted by xitirix View Post
    If you're an avid Jack3d user keep using it. It does not contain illegal ingredients. I've read the message traffic stating it will cause you to pop on a urinalysis and proved them to be wrong. Read the lables.
    Even if that is the case why would he be dumb enough to risk it just to keep using anything with 1,3 in it? Better safe than sorry.
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    Originally Posted by ImThatOneKid View Post
    Well just recently been reading the news on Jack3d/1-3dimeth/the old 1.M.R, flushed them all down the toilet cause I cbf getting in trouble for it with these random drug test. So my question is guide me in the right direction for a good preworkout w/o anything that will make me fail a drug test. I've been looking at Craze/Animal Rage/Assault, kinda stim crazy which is why I used 1-3dimeth but now's my time to get off it. Help a brah out.
    Off of that list I'd probably go with Assault.. just because I like supplementing with creatine in my pre and Craze wasn't for me
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    Originally Posted by Big.Jazayrli View Post
    Off of that list I'd probably go with Assault.. just because I like supplementing with creatine in my pre and Craze wasn't for me
    @2 scoops craze didn't do anything for me anymore either after a week's worth of workouts. I suggest you go with some san fierce or white flood op.
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    So assault it is. Guess everyone has their own opinion.
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    Doesn't the US military use those things that you guys refer to as "go pills"? Aren't they amphetamines?
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    Originally Posted by PlatinumMuscle View Post
    Doesn't the US military use those things that you guys refer to as "go pills"? Aren't they amphetamines?
    Yes, dextroamphetamine and modafinil, used for long missions. We also have 'no go pills' for sleep.
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    You are allowed to consume pre workouts with 13 d. They just stopped seedling the items in the px/on base. They are not illegal
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    Originally Posted by JasondNelson1 View Post
    You are allowed to consume pre workouts with 13 d. They just stopped seedling the items in the px/on base. They are not illegal
    Well just from a personal level being in tech school, if that comes up in the drug test I'll get cut with no hesitancy. Just not worth risking it in my mind.
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    Originally Posted by ImThatOneKid View Post
    Well just from a personal level being in tech school, if that comes up in the drug test I'll get cut with no hesitancy. Just not worth risking it in my mind.
    I would just go with craze or assault so you know you won't pop hot since many here who are military have taken them including myself
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