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    ITT you learn that CGBP does not build triceps, JM Press does

    "Close grip bench press is NOT a tricep exercise" Watched the other vid they had up years ago and have been doing JM ever since. I've built thick horseshoe triceps with these.

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    Weighted dips for me
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    Looks like a nice press, however I am not ready to negate the effects of the close grip bench press
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    Weighted dips for me
    They're great, my number two tricep exercise behind the JM press.
    Originally Posted by HighFivan View Post
    Looks like a nice press, however I am not ready to negate the effects of the close grip bench press
    Then you will not build thick meaty horse shoe triceps.
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    Originally Posted by wheynweed View Post
    Then you will not build thick meaty horse shoe triceps.
    It's like you're inside me and everybody else's head.
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    Originally Posted by wheynweed View Post

    Then you will not build thick meaty horse shoe triceps.
    awww man. I was looking forward to having thick meaty horse shoe triceps.
    looks like im destined to be noodley-armed for life
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    if you're grips are close enough on CGB isn't it very similar to JM press? As long as your elbows are in line with body?
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    im gonna add these to my tricep workout.

    ive never liked CGB, dips are great but my shoulders always get fuked.
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    Originally Posted by MyronLatsBrah View Post
    im gonna add these to my tricep workout.

    ive never liked CGB, dips are great but my shoulders always get fuked.
    That's because CGBP relys too much on shoulders and chest. JM is strictly triceps. You can expect to be relieved of pressure in your shoulders and even better build huge phat thick shredded tight juicy meaty horseshoe triceps.
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    Hmm I'll remember that CGBP doesn't build triceps next time I am doing them and getting bigger triceps.
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    Originally Posted by BombDonald View Post
    Hmm I'll remember that CGBP doesn't build triceps next time I am doing them and getting bigger triceps.
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    They look abit awkward for the wrists, ill give them a shot.

    I feel CGBP on my triceps way more than my chest and i dont feel anything on my shoulders, but then again im presuming you guys are going alot heavier than me?
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    Originally Posted by wheynweed View Post
    ITT you learn that CGBP does not build triceps
    Luckily, it's only ITT.

    I use red square blocks on the bar, instead of plates.
    bb.com, a place that turned Deadlift into a forearm isolation exercise

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    Hmm I'll remember that CGBP doesn't build triceps next time I am doing them and getting bigger triceps.
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    I've had cgbp in my program for about 3 months now. I am noticing better tricep developmant. There are plenty of ways to build triceps, and I am sure many people have done it without ever hearing of the JM press.
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    Originally Posted by BombDonald View Post
    Hmm I'll remember that CGBP doesn't build triceps next time I am doing them and getting bigger triceps.
    Not as big as mine/not as big as they could be while using JM press.
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    They look abit awkward for the wrists, ill give them a shot.

    I feel CGBP on my triceps way more than my chest and i dont feel anything on my shoulders, but then again im presuming you guys are going alot heavier than me?
    You're presumption is correct.

    Originally Posted by ZoranM View Post
    Luckily, it's only ITT.

    I use red square blocks on the bar, instead of plates.
    Thanks for the neg. Oh nice avatar btw, I'm sure you've built some great triceps there bud!
    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    I've had cgbp in my program for about 3 months now. I am noticing better tricep developmant. There are plenty of ways to build triceps, and I am sure many people have done it without ever hearing of the JM press.
    Don't get me wrong I'm sure you will gain some thickness to your tri's but nowhere near as much as with this much more direct and involved movement.
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    I got to doing this through tweaking the CGBP to emphasise more triceps, then later saw Jim Cordova giving it merit. Didn't know it had a name, but definitely a good movement imo.
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    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    I've had cgbp in my program for about 3 months now. I am noticing better tricep developmant. There are plenty of ways to build triceps, and I am sure many people have done it without ever hearing of the JM press.
    Nope. They never have.
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    Originally Posted by ttownrepre View Post
    I got to doing this through tweaking the CGBP to emphasise more triceps, then was later saw Jim Cordova giving it merit. Didn't know it had a name, but definitely a good movement imo.
    Yep. Awesome press, will hit your tri's alot harder than CGBP
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    Nope. They never have.
    Ok bud stop trying to be witty. Thread was made to endorse such a great tricep exercise and help people who were having trouble building size. Is it better than CGBP? Yes. Will it help you grow bigger triceps than CGBP? Yes. Does that mean CGBP does not build tris? No, but not as thoroughly as this movement will.
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    Thread was made to endorse such a great tricep exercise and help people who were having trouble building size.
    Was it also made with the reason to post like a douche?
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    Lol why the fuk is eveyone so bitter ITT? *sees rep powers* *backs out of thread slowly*

    Listen, if you want to stick with CGBP go ahead, nobody's stopping you. Just wanted to let everyone in on this much more advantageous and efficient tricep press. Good day.
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    Originally Posted by wheynweed View Post
    Yep. Awesome press, will hit your tri's alot harder than CGBP

    Ok bud stop trying to be witty. Thread was made to endorse such a great tricep exercise and help people who were having trouble building size. Is it better than CGBP? Yes. Will it help you grow bigger triceps than CGBP? Yes. Does that mean CGBP does not build tris? No, but not as thoroughly as this movement will.
    It's one thing to endorse an exercise, and another to make absolute claims about an exercise. No on exercise is "best", each have their purpose. You also need to take someone's entire workout into consideration. If I have heavy bench, incline cgbp, OHP and heavy dips in my program, what would be the overall advantage to the jm press? When taking the entire routine into consideration, I doubt the change from CGBP to JM would cause any significant difference in my routine. The JM press is great, but it's use is a matter of preference.
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    Personally I just do CGBP and Skull crushers. The JM is just a hybrid of both, but it has never felt right to me, hence why I don't do it
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    Assuming the way that Dave Tate teaches bench press, I would assume this is the way he teaches close-grip bench press.
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    Originally Posted by wheynweed View Post
    Lol why the fuk is eveyone so bitter ITT? *sees rep powers* *backs out of thread slowly* Listen, if you want to stick with CGBP go ahead, nobody's stopping you. Just wanted to let everyone in on this much more advantageous and efficient tricep press.
    OP, if you do a little more research, you'll discover why Dave Tate reco's JM Press for situational reasons. Dave's a smart guy and realizes that everybody's training is different, and that there can be elbow stress conflicts with CGBP that can be alleviated w/ JM. And vice-versa he also notes that there is a compromise in losing some additional tricep stimulation from skullcrusher type extensions to elbow comfort w/ JM. It actually isn't the greatest in the world -- but it's pretty darn good in 'these A,B,C' situations.

    Tate never comes out and says "JM is the end-all, be-all Tri Builder and if you're doing anything else, you're just losing out, idiot."

    That, in fact would be you doing that. That's why you're getting so much discomfort for being a dick. Tate would neg you. Twice.
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    Originally Posted by wheynweed View Post


    Thanks for the neg. Oh nice avatar btw, I'm sure you've built some great triceps there bud!
    There was a lol gtfo here too. Why'd you erase it? You don't want me out?

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    Originally Posted by Xuaxace View Post
    Personally I just do CGBP and Skull crushers. The JM is just a hybrid of both, but it has never felt right to me, hence why I don't do it
    My thoughts exactly.... Need to rep u on recharge.

    Well, that JM is a hybrid and looks cool and nice, but it hurts my wrists more than the CGBP....so I will stick with what hurts less....

    For the ones that can, there's nothing bad in trying them.


    Originally Posted by mrmrbill View Post
    That's why you're getting so much discomfort for being a dick. Tate would neg you. Twice.
    Also Chuck Norris would neg "him" twice too? ....

    His only problem is the lack of diplomacy here, don't be so bad on him .
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    Originally Posted by Xuaxace View Post
    Personally I just do CGBP and Skull crushers. The JM is just a hybrid of both, but it has never felt right to me, hence why I don't do it
    Bolded the important part.


    If an exercise doesn't feel right to you, don't do it. Derp.

    However, Xuaxace, you might give the JM press another shot sometime in the future. There have been a few exercises that I've dropped in the past because it seemed they just weren't doing much for me, only to try them later and all of the sudden "feel it". This happened to me with one-arm DB rows.


    I like CGBP, but when I go heavy (not as heavy as the OP of course ), I can't keep from having my shoulder issues flare up. JM press with a false grip feels great, however.
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